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Clinton meets with #BlackLivesMatter protesters after they were barred from her event
Keene, New Hampshire (CNN)Hillary Clinton met with five #BlackLivesMatter members on Tuesday in New Hampshire after the group was not allowed into the presidential candidate's forum on substance abuse.
After her event here, Clinton met with the group for 15 minutes, according to Daunasia Yancey, founder of #BlackLivesMatter in Boston. Yancey said that the group felt the meeting was positive, but still has more questions for Clinton on her family's role in mass incarceration and drug policy.
"We did have a couple of particular questions that we wanted to ask her, and we were able to do so, and she was able to respond," Yancey told a handful of reporters after the meeting. "We asked the secretary about her and her family's history with the war on drugs both at home and abroad and how she felt about her involvement in that violence that has been perpetuated, especially against communities of color and against black folks."
Yancey added that she never heard "a reflection on her part in perpetuating white supremacist violence."
"She did acknowledge that there are policies that she has been a part of promoting that have not worked," Yancey added, but said that Clinton's response was a "political" one.
"I am sure she understands. She is a brilliant woman," she said. "I think she gave the answer she wanted to give."
The #BlackLivesMatter protesters were coming to Tuesday's event to ask Clinton questions during her public forum about mass incarceration. After the protesters told a reporter from The New Republic that they were attending, the protesters showed up slightly before the event started and, according to the Clinton campaign, were not allowed into the main event because the room has been shut down due to capacity by the United States Secret Service.
A Secret Service agent on site confirmed this to CNN.The #BlackLivesMatter members, along with over a dozen other members of the public, were escorted into an overflow room, where they watched Clinton's event. Afterwards, Clinton went to the overflow room to meet and take pictures with the 20 or so people inside.
Initially, the meeting between Clinton and the protesters was going to be covered by pooled members of the media, but Nick Merrill, a spokesman for Clinton's campaign, said the #BlackLivesMatter protesters asked for the event not to be recorded by the media once they were informed journalists would be let in. Members of the media were never in the room with Clinton and the protesters.
A Clinton aide said the protesters asked those in the room to stop recording and photographing during the first moments of their meeting with Clinton. Because of that, the aide said, the campaign did not escort anyone else in after that.
But Yancey cast doubt on the Clinton campaign's reason for journalist not being let in after the event.
"We said that we did not want to take a photo with her," Yancey said. "The only thing that we were asked about was whether we wanted to include photos."
When asked whether they were asked to allow members of the media in, Yancey said, "Nope, we were not asked that."
The #BlackLivesMatter members filmed their meeting with Clinton, however, and plan to put the video out.
Julius Jones, the head of #BlackLivesMatter Worcester, said after the meeting with Clinton that he felt both parities got something out of it.
"She got something out of the meeting. That much is certain," he said. "I feel like what we got out of the meeting was to actually press her in a very real way -- probably in a way that she hasn't been pressed in a long time about not only her role as a presidential candidate, but her role as first lady, senator and secretary of state."
Jones added, "What it seemed like was, and what she did say was that, she would want to take more the angle of changing more systemic things and looking for and wanting policy reforms that were palatable that she could package and sell. Right? But as far as the arena of the heart, she was not willing to go there."
In a criminal justice speech earlier in her campaign, Clinton had called for punishments outside of prison for non-violent drug crimes and for police officers to wear body cameras. It's a reversal from the 1990s criminal sentencing reforms that her husband, then-President Bill Clinton, had signed into law, which increased mass incarceration.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/11/politics/hillary-clinton-new-hampshire-black-lives-matter-2016/index.html
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)He brings up interesting questions. It was posted in thread over in DU V&MM...
So What Happened with Black Lives Matter and Hillary Clinton?
Thom Hartmann
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)whole event is to focus on what issues BLM wants to focus on - the issues always paid lip service to before, but no more - and not just go along with the mass media agenda of the politics, optics or the personalization and flame throwing.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)and Team Hillary used this as an excuse to bar the Press from the meeting.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)"We said that we did not want to take a photo with her," Yancey said. "The only thing that we were asked about was whether we wanted to include photos."
One account, many interpretations.....one result no one is complaining about.
Molehill into mountain.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)why are you saying "incorrect"
How is your account different from mine again?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)No one was complaining. On the contrary:
"Julius Jones, the head of #BlackLivesMatter Worcester, said after the meeting with Clinton that he felt both parties got something out of it."
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Hillary staff told the press it was a closed meeting, no?
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)but she is a very wily, experienced campaigner and knows how to get the results she wants,
to further her campaign. Not 'diabolical' <-- why would you use such a term to describe Hillary?
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Asked whether Clinton actually proposed policies in the meeting, Jones said, "Not that I recall, no. In fact, I know that she didnt because she was projecting that what the Black Lives Matter movement needs to do is X,Y, and Zto which we pushed back that it is not her place to tell the Black Lives Matter movement or black people what to do, and that the real work doesnt lie in the victim-blaming that that implies. And that was a rift in the conversation."
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/08/12/clinton-campaign-shuts-down-black-lives-matter-protest
KoKo
(84,711 posts)You have to get through the damned 1 Minute CNN Advertisement but what's interesting is this Particular Spokesperson for "Black Lives Matter" was not a Screamer Shouting like what Bernie had to deal with...she was oh so softspoken and respectful of Hillary.
If you have a time it's worth the watch. What a difference in the group than confronted O'Malley/Sanders at Netroots and Bernie last Weekend in Seattle..
What a difference...and shows that Hillary gets favored treatment while Bernie/O'Malley got screamers and disruptors.
Here's the CNN Interview with the Group from "BLM" that met with Hillary.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/11/politics/hillary-clinton-new-hampshire-black-lives-matter-2016/index.html
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)The Pentagon-stroking high production value "news" clips used by CNN and Pentagon puppet Barbara Walters , for example, are always the best in fearmongering and distortion.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Check it out.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)Buzz cook
(2,473 posts)"The #BlackLivesMatter protesters were coming to Tuesday's event to ask Clinton questions during her public forum about mass incarceration. After the protesters told a reporter from The New Republic that they were attending, the protesters showed up slightly before the event started and, according to the Clinton campaign, were not allowed into the main event because the room has been shut down due to capacity by the United States Secret Service."
The headline indicates that BLM was specifically blocked from entering the venue, yet this paragraph indicates that the BLM protesters were kept from entering the venue because it was full.
Just saying that the headline is much more inflammatory.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)complete twisting of the word to fit the narrative, fuck the facts.
"She got something out of the meeting. That much is certain," he said. "I feel like what we got out of the meeting was to actually press her in a very real way -- probably in a way that she hasn't been pressed in a long time about not only her role as a presidential candidate, but her role as first lady, senator and secretary of state."
Jones added, "What it seemed like was, and what she did say was that, she would want to take more the angle of changing more systemic things and looking for and wanting policy reforms that were palatable that she could package and sell. Right? But as far as the arena of the heart, she was not willing to go there."
.............
A good conversation, a good start to a good debate and ideas for solutions and detailed plans.
Which, of course, causes little outrage and will be the actual news of co-operation no one wants to read.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)reports the same. Watch the interview with them at the link to the article. They were very polite explaining their encounter with Hillary.