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Panich52

(5,829 posts)
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:36 AM Aug 2015

Debate disagreements hit Dems

Campaign for America's Future

O'Malley campaign raises legal questions over debate schedule.

W. Post: "The memo released Tuesday takes issue with an 'exclusivity' requirement, under which any Democratic candidate who participates in a non-sanctioned debate could be barred from the DNC-sponsored debates, the first of which is in October ... Joe Sandler, a former DNC general counsel whose services have been retained by O'Malley's campaign, argues ... that the DNC has no legal authority to enforce it."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/11/omalley-lawyer-alleges-legal-problems-with-dnc-debate-plan/

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Debate disagreements hit Dems (Original Post) Panich52 Aug 2015 OP
Good for O'Malley. nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #1
Good on him! Puglover Aug 2015 #2
Having the DNC run the debats is like having the Mafia run the lottery. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #3
"Congratulations Vinnie....again." (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #4
Or Fox running the repug debate lame54 Aug 2015 #8
Yeah, much better to hand it all over to the corporate, propaganda media, like the GOP has. Am I right? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #10
Not right. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #19
Interesting idea. Who chooses who gets to sit at the negotiating table, and with which media? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #20
We're not talking rocket science. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #23
So, this should be a GD post? RobertEarl Aug 2015 #5
Careful! Don't dis the hosts! This thread might get locked too! erronis Aug 2015 #9
No host dissing RobertEarl Aug 2015 #12
And that was a perfect example of how to handle the situation. Non-confrontational. erronis Aug 2015 #21
I disagree RobertEarl Aug 2015 #25
Agree to agree. The other thing is that he didn't let temper stop his being rational. erronis Aug 2015 #28
I would think this is a GD Primaries topic. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #27
Good for O'M. Needs to be done. Armstead Aug 2015 #6
K & R. Excellent & good for O'Malley. More debates & earlier debates. appalachiablue Aug 2015 #7
Good man. JackInGreen Aug 2015 #11
So, the DNC has a problem with the First Amendment?? Maineman Aug 2015 #13
I agree we absolutely need more than six debates.. Peacetrain Aug 2015 #14
K&R..... daleanime Aug 2015 #15
Boycott the DNC debates 4dsc Aug 2015 #16
WHO should boycott them? brooklynite Aug 2015 #17
Not I RobertEarl Aug 2015 #26
Yes. We need more displays of political American Idol. Deadshot Aug 2015 #18
But ... y'see ... staggerleem Aug 2015 #22
Go Martin! Fawke Em Aug 2015 #24
Darn right! elleng Aug 2015 #29
I'm in agreement with O'Malley on this 100% but I still have to say this tularetom Aug 2015 #30
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
19. Not right.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:22 PM
Aug 2015

I'm talking about handing the debates over to the candidates. They get together and decide the when, where, how and how many.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
20. Interesting idea. Who chooses who gets to sit at the negotiating table, and with which media?
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:27 PM
Aug 2015

Someone is going to have to write some rules just to get started with that and someone to enforce them...if only in a perfect world there was a political party power structure, maybe even one where all the identified, viable candidates had agreed to rules in advance that they would then abide by and then agreed to structure would handle it all?

Anyone late to the Party - or very, very late, indeed - need not apply for whining about the long known rules of the festivities.

It's my Party and I will Rule if I want to.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
23. We're not talking rocket science.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:02 PM
Aug 2015

The candidates who want to debate, get together and decide where, when, how, and how much each pays. Then they agree on the format. If they are as intelligent and adult as advertised it shouldn't present any significant problems.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
5. So, this should be a GD post?
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:05 PM
Aug 2015

One such post was locked by the GD hosts, and we have been discussing this matter. Host feels that since it has 'Primary' in its name, it must be only allowed here and not in GD. My contention is that this is not a primary matter, but rather an issue that is current and about the party as a whole and not about voting or any one candidate.
See this in the locked thread and ask the host yourself:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7065202

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
12. No host dissing
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:28 PM
Aug 2015

But... if you can't stand the heat, one should stay out of the kitchen.

Bernie allowed the people attacking him to actually take the mic!!

erronis

(15,355 posts)
21. And that was a perfect example of how to handle the situation. Non-confrontational.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:35 PM
Aug 2015

Totally unlike how our other/prior presidential contenders would like to handle conflict.

Many kudos to Sen. Sanders on understanding that the situation was a no-win for everyone.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
25. I disagree
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 06:10 PM
Aug 2015

It was a big win for Bernie. The free publicity he received from the altercation was positive, and he showed he is a common man who, unlike some other candidate, does not need ropes to keep others away.

But I would bet we actually do agree? ::grin::

erronis

(15,355 posts)
28. Agree to agree. The other thing is that he didn't let temper stop his being rational.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 06:26 PM
Aug 2015

Part of the benefit of being a bit more mature. (It's taken me more than 60 years to get there.)

appalachiablue

(41,177 posts)
7. K & R. Excellent & good for O'Malley. More debates & earlier debates.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:07 PM
Aug 2015

This limited and late 6 debate deal is really messed up.

Peacetrain

(22,879 posts)
14. I agree we absolutely need more than six debates..
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:03 PM
Aug 2015

And I am hoping all the candidates will get together on that and they can expand them to at least 8

I know the general public is not going to tune in to all the debates.. they like the what ifs of a Trump like thing.. but for those of us on the ground who work the elections.. and get out with our neighbors etc.. the more information the better!!

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
26. Not I
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 06:13 PM
Aug 2015

In fact, the turnout for the first debate will be so huge it will show why the DNC is hiding. The DNC are the only ones I see actually boycotting, and they are boycotting the people's desires for more democracy.

 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
22. But ... y'see ...
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:37 PM
Aug 2015

... none of this was SUPPOSED to happen! We weren't supposed to need ANY Democratic Debates, because nobody was supposed to oppose Hillary for the nomination in the first place.

In fact, it seems that much of the media, and the party infrastructure, are doing their level best to proceed AS IF nobody was running in opposition to Hillary for the Democratic nomination. Like, maybe if we ignore them long enough, they'll all just go away.

This is what happens when someone who had been one candidate's surrogate in a prior election becomes the National Party chair. If the Party chair can't bring herself to at least pretend to be impartial with respect to ALL the candidates, I think we need to put a different butt in that chair.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
24. Go Martin!
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:07 PM
Aug 2015

Maybe he, Sanders, Chaffee and Webb can file a suit against this.

It's clearly not democratic.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
30. I'm in agreement with O'Malley on this 100% but I still have to say this
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 06:33 PM
Aug 2015

Six debates is way more than enough to demonstrate to all Democrats that Hillary Clinton would be a terrible candidate and her nomination would ensure the election of a republican in November 2016.

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