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PPP Iowa poll: Hillary would lose to Rubio, walker, Huckabee and Carson (Original Post) cali Aug 2015 OP
She is pretty much un-electable, too much baggage bowens43 Aug 2015 #1
Her supporters quote national polling to quash support for Sanders (primaries aren't national) Romulox Aug 2015 #2
Sanders isn't doing much better, if not worse, based on the same polling, not covered in that Metric System Aug 2015 #3
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #5
uh no. I've been quite clear that I think Hillary will be the nominee, dear cali Aug 2015 #9
The difference is that his favorables *increase* as people get to know him, his positions. Romulox Aug 2015 #7
Bernie has not been attacked from the Left, Right and the MSM like Hillary. Of course her numbers Metric System Aug 2015 #12
didn't say he did, but as she's the likely nominee, i think this is pertinent cali Aug 2015 #11
Come on, your intention was to diminish Hillary while leaving out the pertinent fact that Sanders Metric System Aug 2015 #13
I've.said repeatedly that it is very, very unlikely cali Aug 2015 #16
I am well aware of your thoughts and feelings about Hillary. Metric System Aug 2015 #17
then why make shit up? cali Aug 2015 #20
I didn't make anything up. I just pointed out that your headline didn't paint the whole picture. Metric System Aug 2015 #22
It's going to be a fight. Always is. All of our candidates are ready for it. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #4
I don't see how Biden doesn't jump in ram2008 Aug 2015 #6
Jump in and battle it out for second place with Sanders? That's what the polling has shown. Metric System Aug 2015 #14
He's an insurance policy ram2008 Aug 2015 #15
What? Hillary has an 11 point lead on all of them. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #8
this is a new ppp poll. I realize its not the only poll cali Aug 2015 #10
If this doesn't prove that the party needs to get the Democratic candidates bullwinkle428 Aug 2015 #18
+ 1000. the dnc is letting the repubs restorefreedom Aug 2015 #19
that is an excellent point. cali Aug 2015 #21

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
2. Her supporters quote national polling to quash support for Sanders (primaries aren't national)
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:12 AM
Aug 2015

then ignore how poorly Hillary does in those self-same national polls versus Republicans.

At least some of them understand that this is in error, but many do not seem to understand.

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
3. Sanders isn't doing much better, if not worse, based on the same polling, not covered in that
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:14 AM
Aug 2015

article, but discussed on PPP's website: "On the whole he does only fractionally worse than Clinton in the head to heads."

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/08/general-election-tight-in-iowa.html

Response to Metric System (Reply #3)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
9. uh no. I've been quite clear that I think Hillary will be the nominee, dear
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:22 AM
Aug 2015

And I posted this op.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
7. The difference is that his favorables *increase* as people get to know him, his positions.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:20 AM
Aug 2015

Clinton has been losing support the more she speaks. So Sanders has the ability to improve his position, while Clinton has the likelihood of bleeding more and more support as time goes on.

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
12. Bernie has not been attacked from the Left, Right and the MSM like Hillary. Of course her numbers
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:34 AM
Aug 2015

are going to take a hit when she's the biggest target. Whoever becomes the nominee can expect a barrage of attacks. The difference between Hillary and Bernie is that she is used to dealing with the negativity and fighting back. She is battle-tested.

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
13. Come on, your intention was to diminish Hillary while leaving out the pertinent fact that Sanders
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:37 AM
Aug 2015

isn't polling any better against Republicans in Iowa.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
16. I've.said repeatedly that it is very, very unlikely
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 11:05 AM
Aug 2015

that he will be the nominee. I have an op up right now saying that. and frankly, I have serious concerns about his viability in a general election. I have long expressed that I think Hillary is a poor candidate and a lousy campaigner. As in for many, many years. Just do a search.

You suck as a mind reader.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
4. It's going to be a fight. Always is. All of our candidates are ready for it.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:14 AM
Aug 2015

Hillary more than most at this point. Fact is, if she loses the primary, many of her people will shift to the camp of the primary winner. We are in a good spot but it will be a fight. Republicans don't roll over and don't play fair. All good, we are going to steamroll them.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
6. I don't see how Biden doesn't jump in
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:18 AM
Aug 2015

I give it about a month.

O'Malley is just not cutting it as the Democratic party's establishment insurance.

If Clinton is the nominee it will be Kerry/Bush 04 all over again. And if Sanders is the nominee...well they just CANT have that.

bullwinkle428

(20,631 posts)
18. If this doesn't prove that the party needs to get the Democratic candidates
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 11:11 AM
Aug 2015

on stage to begin debating AND SHOWING WHY DEMOCRATIC IDEAS ARE SUPERIOR, I don't know what does.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
19. + 1000. the dnc is letting the repubs
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 11:56 AM
Aug 2015

get all the press because of dws's blind allegiance to hillary. she is willing to cost this country in order to get her candidate the nom.

if the r candidate wins the general (and he will if hillary wins the d nom), he should be sending dws the nicest fruit basket money can buy.

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