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askew

(1,464 posts)
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:37 PM Aug 2015

Martin O'Malley Erupts Over DNC Debate Schedule. What the hell kind of Dem Party is this?

Via Buzzfeed:

“And as the Democratic Party, I think it’s a sad state of affairs when the DNC — it tries to insert itself to cut off a Democratic debate,” he said. “We should not be a party that’s afraid to talk about the ideas that will get wages going up again instead of down. We shouldn’t be a party that’s afraid to talk about America’s role in the world and the lessons we’ve learned from these last very hard 14 to 15 years of conflict.”

“We have better solutions for the future than the other party has, and I think we’re making a huge mistake,” he continued. “If we cut off debate, if we tell the people of New Hampshire that we’ve become such an impoverished party that we can only afford one debate before the New Hampshire primary, what the hell kind of Democratic Party is this?”

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, another underdog for the Democratic presidential nomination, also criticized the debate schedule in an interview Sunday.


He does sound frustrated. I hope that doesn't mean that his campaign is getting nowhere with setting up outside debates.
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Martin O'Malley Erupts Over DNC Debate Schedule. What the hell kind of Dem Party is this? (Original Post) askew Aug 2015 OP
The problem with setting up outside debates is they'll be banned from any future official debates arcane1 Aug 2015 #1
I agree it is.... Adrahil Aug 2015 #2
I agree, though I would like to see Martin get more publicity n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #4
Would it be against the rules to daredtowork Aug 2015 #3
Interesting question! I have no idea arcane1 Aug 2015 #5
So here is what they should do ... aggiesal Aug 2015 #21
I cannot deny having that daydream a few times :) arcane1 Aug 2015 #22
Blame Hillary billhicks76 Aug 2015 #23
They need some serious rule changes. glinda Aug 2015 #6
O'Malley's right. SolutionisSolidarity Aug 2015 #7
It really is. askew Aug 2015 #8
I agree with O'Malley that there LibDemAlways Aug 2015 #9
They could schedule 10 more debates calguy Aug 2015 #10
Actually he's more than double his standing in the new polls released today. Agschmid Aug 2015 #11
Actually his GROUND campaign IS getting traction. elleng Aug 2015 #16
I don't know, but that's not the point. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #18
DNC wants to control the message. Not too radical now folks! jalan48 Aug 2015 #12
They want to control the individuals providing the message. elleng Aug 2015 #17
we need them sooner, too restorefreedom Aug 2015 #13
"What the hell kind of Democratic Party is this?” TBF Aug 2015 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Aug 2015 #15
If he didn't already know, SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #19
We really should have at least 8 debates.. Peacetrain Aug 2015 #20
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. The problem with setting up outside debates is they'll be banned from any future official debates
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:40 PM
Aug 2015

It's a lame rule, IMO.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
2. I agree it is....
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:42 PM
Aug 2015

But it's not like I think Martin is going to be able turn a 3% showing into being a contender with a few more debates. This is gonna be the Hill and Bern show unless Uncle Joe decides to crash the party.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
3. Would it be against the rules to
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:44 PM
Aug 2015

set up an event that debates relative platforms and send proxies to do it? For instance, it could be an event for college debating teams.

aggiesal

(8,921 posts)
21. So here is what they should do ...
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:27 PM
Aug 2015

Have outside debate(s) and invite everyone.

I'm sure all the candidates will accept from Bernie on down,
which leaves only Hillary to debate herself when the official debates begin.

How will that look?

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
23. Blame Hillary
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:38 PM
Aug 2015

She is in cahoots with the Bush Family like she always has been. How about this...BAN any democrat that is part of The Bush Inner Circle. Bye Bill...Bye Hillary.

7. O'Malley's right.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:36 PM
Aug 2015

Both parties are openly favoring certain candidates, but the Republicans have twice as many debates scheduled as we do. They've already had their first, and ours isn't for 2 months. The Republican Party is acting like a more democratic organization than the Democratic Party, which is deeply embarrassing.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
9. I agree with O'Malley that there
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:29 PM
Aug 2015

should be more debates, but he's wrong when he asserts that the Dems have "better" solutions for the future than the Repukes. He should have more accurately stated that the Repukes offer nothing at all -- zero, zip, nada-- to benefit 99% of the American population. Only the Democratis are addressing the concerns of the vast majority of Americans. The more debates to drive this home, the better.

calguy

(5,324 posts)
10. They could schedule 10 more debates
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:42 PM
Aug 2015

And O'Malley STILL won't get any traction for his grounded campaign.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
11. Actually he's more than double his standing in the new polls released today.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:43 PM
Aug 2015

Clearly in third, but a "strong" third.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
18. I don't know, but that's not the point.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:12 PM
Aug 2015

The point is that the current schedule is beyond ridiculous.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
13. we need them sooner, too
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:51 PM
Aug 2015

right now the repubs are sucking up all the oxygen.

and one of the really bad results of this is that Trump is trying to present a populist message, and a lot of people are buying it. All of the dems are trying to jump on the populist bandwagon to a greater or lesser degree. But if we keep letting trump try to carry the banner without our own group presentation, many antiestablishment people who might be willing to vote dem are going to be sucked up by the trump machine. they're not all birthers and lunatics. Some of them like his anti-establishment populist message and they like the fact that he's not a career politician. They could almost be dems if we could have the dates and get a more national presentation. But Debbie Schultz is too devoted or too incompetent to see what needs to happen for the good of the country.

TBF

(32,083 posts)
14. "What the hell kind of Democratic Party is this?”
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:54 PM
Aug 2015

One that is bought and paid for, Martin. Sorry.

Response to askew (Original post)

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
20. We really should have at least 8 debates..
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:15 PM
Aug 2015

And I would really be happy if they were more thematic in the sense, that the candidates could spend an hour or more just debating how we could deal with one of the many problems that face us.. from the economy..to race.. to the environment .. foreign policy.. not just a question here and there on any given subject..

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