2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBLM Protestor radical Christian, Sarah Palin supporter
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http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/08/blm-activist-who-shut-down-sanders-is-radical-christian-sarah-palin-supporter/
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)BLM isn't about party affiliation.
romanic
(2,841 posts)But Outside Agitators 206 is, which is what this woman is affiliated with.
Facility Inspector
(615 posts)SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)Liz Warren was a Republican until age 47.
Facility Inspector
(615 posts)I dunno, what do you think?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)It's not a high school thing. And she also complained that the Republican Party wouldn't "groom" her, so she was going to the "other side" (which doesn't appear to be Democratic Party). Appears to me she's just a narcissist seeking attention and fame through conflict.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)Are you familiar with Sarah Palin's rhetoric concerning Obama.
Also, her words today are indistinguishable from Sarah Palin's in condemning liberals.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)if the "lamestream" media isn't too rough on them.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)I mean black kids killed by police have gone up under Obama.
Many of Clintons anti crime initiatives contributed to the incarceration and economic segregation of black men.
Maybe the GOP has finally figured out how to shave off the black vote from the dems?? I mean they did that with the blue collar vote over non economic issues. Maybe now we'll see sig numbers voting for the GOP if their bloggers and stuff can keep the rift going on the internet and news shows.
Great plan. If the voter suppression laws prevent some minorities and then they can turn others off from the dems to where they dont' vote they win!
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I view all Sarah Palin fans in much the same way. The very fact that a Black women supports people like her, tells me she isn't in this because she cares about Black Lives.
You know, not all AAs care about the same things, just fyi.
Like White people, some of whom eg, care about our soldiers being used as fodder for the war maching, some care only about how they can profit from the war machine.
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)She wasn't on stage advocating for Sarah Palin, she was advocating for Black Lives Matters. And I'm bi-racial but you're going to lecture me about blacks with your fyi's?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)in fact, and since I find using AA issues for political purposes to be thoroughly reprehensible I did NOT post a whole lot of what I have been reading about the agents provacateurs causing a 'rift' in this most important movement, viewed by many of the sincere people involved, who btw, I have come to know over the past year online, as 'in it for THEMSELVES, hoping to get 'ahead'.
Her performance should get her what she appears to want, a 'fellowhip' in the Rove school, yes there is one, of 'journalists' whose graduates we are more than familiar with.
Do not play the race card to try to win elections. Right wingers are right wingers, period.
She isn't a high school student now, she is spewing vile, vicious rhetoric about Liberals and she is damaging, well hopefully we who actually CARE about injustices will simply ignore her, the cause AAs have been struggling to get attention, not much success here on DU, until it could be USED against Sanders, for.
To accuse a Jewish man of being a White Supremacist is the ultimate in despicable right wing garbage.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Really, I'd like an answer. Why would I listen to someone with such poor judgment as to be a fan of Sarah Palin? Don't give me your "she was in high school" answer, because it still begs the same question: why should I listen to this idiot?
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Its the nature of discussion boards.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)#bowdownbernie. Wake up, or at least quit lecturing the rest of us.
Turin_C3PO
(14,016 posts)You lecture people, you get lectured back. Sorry you're so fragile.
dvduval
(260 posts)SuperPACS sow weeds in our garden. Don't always know where they came from but have to be very aware there is money to fund things "like" this, whether or not this is such a case.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)You also get this opinion.
Of course there is always something particularly depressing and disturbing about any African American clinging to Christianity, when Christianity was in fact the tool of the slavemaster, the religion that justified the enslavement and subjugation of African Americans, the religion that justified Jim Crow and segregation, the religion that continues to keep Americans of all color ignorant and uninformed, at once frightened and beseeching of a God that does not exist.
Fascinating. Of course many abolitionists were also inspired by Christianity; but I gather that doesn't matter.
Bryant
cali
(114,904 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)have gone that way.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)candidate.You're not helping with crap like this.It's a smear campaign and it's not going over well with the BLM movement,the comment section for the linked article is smack my head stupid,example:
"To call this woman a religious loony understates the case drastically. She is crazed egocentric, fanatical, narcissist at least at the frontier of sanity, if not already across the line. People like this are no better than ISIS. Her rant also suggests she is delusional, justifying her lack of civility with what only can be interpreted as the efforts of a demented, hysteric. She's too crazy to be taken seriously and could become dangerous."
I'm done trying to convince Bernie supporters here that you're causing real damage to Sanders in particular and democrats in general. Most of you seem to be blind to how this is really playing outside of the Bernie bubble.Carry on.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Yeah I suspect you're not.
artislife
(9,497 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Wondering how that works
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)article and the bizarre RingOfFire article as deeply racist,here's some tweets from Imani Gandy:
https://twitter.com/AngryBlackLady
Watch for #GOPorWhiteProgressive to start trending on Black Twitter. It doesn't take a lot of effort to search for black opinion on the internet,most think the Seattle protest was successful as Sanders immediately added new language to his website and hired a POC woman to a high position.Bernie isn't the problem,his over zealous supporters are.
artislife
(9,497 posts)I get it, I hope the campaign can sail through.
He might have gotten the memo on more security at his events. If so, the chances of this kind of encounter will be less. Thus the reaction from the pearl clutchers in his support will have less to clutch their peals about.
Which will help in the year we still have before the elections.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)If Bernie supporters can routinely refer to Hillary Clinton as evil and a republican, I think you can suck it up and take a little constructive criticism.
I frankly don't think that BS has a chance in hell of ever getting elected to anything but the same safe seat in the Senate he has been occupying for his entire working life. But, since you are convinced that he is on an Obama like trajectory into the Oval Office, even you must realize he will fall short of his target without the people BS supporters constantly belittle.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)I'll never, EVER take advice from someone stupid enough to sport a Sarah Palin pin. She can go tell it to some bagger who might give a fuck what she thinks.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Please try to know what the fuck you're talking about next time.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)And yes, I didn't mention his stint as a mayor like La Palin! He has never had a job for gods sake! And he's an old man that has never had a job! It's incredible to get through life mostly voting for other people's bills and getting paid by tax payers.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Quit pretending HC supporters just started crusading against him, they've been at it for months, lying about his record on civil rights, his career, his life.
He has fought tirelessly for women, poc and lgbt people for decades, anyone who tries to dismiss that record or lie about it is worse than the right wing fundie Palin supporter who called him a white supremacist.
She may be ignorant and brainwashed, DUers are supposed to know better but are still swift boating a progressive Dem candidate.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)But the funniest thing of all is a BS supporter accusing anyone else of swiftboating! You guys have an internet wide reputation for dishing it out but, for sure, you can't take it!
It's a lucky thing that the repukes know better than to take Bernie seriously or you would have to deal with some real swiftboating!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Attacking a Jewish candidate that way is WORSE than what was done to Kerry.
Good to know you agree with them.
I expect Republican trolls to do that, not so called liberals.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)to worry about him attracting AAs, he has been doing that since the campaign began. Your own candidate, IF YOU really are familiar with the movement that grew out of the Ferguson protests, don't recall seeing you show much interest back then in those historical events that have continued and will until the Government steps in to PROTECT Black lives from brutal, killer cops.
Airc, there was a lot of defense of the DOJ here when people merely asked that they DO SOMETHING to protect American citizens. In fact, IF you really had been engaged in the movement that grew out of Ferguson and Michael Brown's murder, you would not have liked much of what was/is being demanded. I totally support what they are asking for.
I do not support Sarah Palin or sliming a person whose family was murdered by one of the worst monsters in history, a 'White Supremicist'.
We thank you for your concern, support for Bernie's MESSAGE, see it isn't about HIM, it's about the American people waiting for DECADES now to have a politician verbalize THEIR concerns, not the made up phony rhetoric paid for during every campaign only to be forgotten when it's over.
He's not getting crowds, someone who is virtually unknown of nearly 30,000 people in one venue, because people just like HIM.
And anyone, in my view, who USES the Race Card, AGAIN, or the most serious issues Ferguson was all about, for Political purposes is simply SHAMEFUL and to me, very suspect since I wonder where they were when some of us were despertely TRYING to get some interest in this issue.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)frankly. ONLY on partisan blogs are we seeing Dems ACTUALLY defending a right winger calling a Jewish Senator a 'white supremacist'. I can assure you the if Hillary supporters continue to try to use the card AGAIN in this campaign, SHE is the one who will be, is being harmed.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)both times.
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)Thank you for providing the unintentional belly laugh of the Year.
frylock
(34,825 posts)forgive me for not giving a fuck if I've turned off someone who would use that terminology to describe Sanders and his supporters. Team Clinton would lose their collective shit if someone were to say #bowdownhillary.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)they don't ask about party affiliation. Did you know the system is also systemically oppressive to Palin? Just because she doesn't give a shit and wants to go around lying about it doesn't mean I will stop fighting for her equality. It is also my equality.
cali
(114,904 posts)And a fundamentalist Christian demanding a Jew who lost much of his family to the Holocaust bow down and publicly apologize for His unspecified actions against poc? All kinds of wrong.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)TheSarcastinator
(854 posts)Or are you just particularly skilled at the use of non sequitur and red herring?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Are you just particularly skilled at the use of non sequitur and red herring?
My post was about the person in the op. Not about Sanders. In order for your thought process to be correct, you would have to say my comment was related to Sanders. You made that aspect up in order to make a failed point. You put the onus of another posters post on me. Not impressed. I made no comment to Sanders nor did the person I originally replied to.
cali
(114,904 posts)Good job demonstrating just who you are.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)You just made that up out of whole cloth. You do not debate in honest.
frylock
(34,825 posts)You know, the guy currently in charge while black people are being hunted down in the street? Yeah, I know why.
villager
(26,001 posts)Jewish lives didn't matter to Nazis. That is what was being shat on over the weekend.
And it's hard to maintain coalitions that way.
But again, a non-coalition serves certain interests much, much better.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)active in the Ferguson demonstrations ongoing still, though you wouldn't know it from DU, over the past year, 'advance HERSELF'.
She lost credibility for many of the good people who have spent their lives fighting for equality and who she attached herself to. No wonder she had to start a new FB page, to spew the right wing anti-Liberal hateful rhetoric most people don't listen to.
This is why racism is such a blight on this society. Because there are people who will look the other way from garbage like this which will harm the very cause she is using for her own benefit, simply because of the ethnicity of the right winger. Sorry, a right winger is a right winger.
The good people she is now harming, will continue the fight for equality in spite of people like her, and she will benefit from their efforts, as it should be.
Meantime it will take a lot of work to undo the damage she has done but I think it is possible now that she has been exposed and does not represent the millions of people who are sincere about JUSTICE in this country.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"SHE clearly doesn't care about Black Lives"
One of the biggest lines of shit I have ever read here. Beyond offensive.
She doesn't give a shit, right?
Bye.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)a White Supremacist. Goodbye to YOU, if that is what you are supporting, anti semiticism at its finest.
I respect adults more than to excuse them for such vile behavior. I expect more of people I guess, and do NOT indulge such vicious anti-semitic hateful rhetoric because of the ethnicity of the individual. THAT is imo, racism. Beyond offensive.
Turin_C3PO
(14,016 posts)No one is talking about the underlying possibility of anti-Semitism playing into this targeting of Bernie.
azmom
(5,208 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)If you want to defend that worthless fuck, you'll need to do it somewhere that permits you to defend Republican ideology.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)sounds to me like she's linking economics to change.
I thought economic doesn't matter?
Turin_C3PO
(14,016 posts)A fundamentalist Christian who calls a Jewish person a "white liberal supremacist" will never get my sympathy. Ever. If you don't like that, too fucking bad, no one gets a free pass if they hold abhorrent views like that, I don't care if they're black or not.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Under the guise of BLM.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)The lengths some people will go to to bash Bernie...
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)You are simply being dishonest. This is giving some Sanders supporters the opportunity to do something they have been wanting to do. It's been quite educational.
David__77
(23,449 posts)I personally have a history of "radical" political activism. At various points, I saw liberalism as a worse enemy than conservatism, since I thought that liberalism engendered illusions in people that voting would really change things for the better fundamentally. What I saw was an intervention aimed at challenging liberals and promoting a particular issue. That's it. I happen to also think that the Sanders campaign handled is very poorly (based on what I saw), by surrendering the podium and then by failing to continue with the event. You don't want your event disrupted, get better security.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)It was an event to support SS and Medicare. Sanders was merely an invited keynote speaker. His team was not in charge of security. Although the event organizers handled it poorly, I thought Sanders handled it well. Of course Hillary supporters wish he had brawled with the women on stage.
David__77
(23,449 posts)If it were his event, with his campaign in charge of security, then I would have considered the handling to be very poor. Certainly under those circumstances, no one should have been able to even get within 30 feet of the stage.
olddots
(10,237 posts)In the end its what people choose when the smoke clears .
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)and I am a Christian.. what are you going to do about that... That was not the point.. Enough of unarmed people being killed.. Our fears of the "other" are driving us crazy.. and things like this do not help one iota...
George II
(67,782 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)is despicable. She also called him a Zionist at the rally and posted a FreePalestine hash tag in her screed.
There is no excuse for this kind of behaviour, none.
The fact that she's a brainwashed fundie who supports Sarah Palin is reason enough to question her motive for attacking Sanders.
Anyone who claims criticism of her is the same thing as attacking BLM is either ignorant of the facts or dishonest.