2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDetail of Sen. Sanders 'Racial Justice' Plan and Gov. O'Malley's 'Criminal Justice' Plan
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Here is a view of Bernie Sanders' and Martin O'Malley's racial and criminal justice plans presented as the candidate's wrote them, but dissected and grouped in a way that I hope will provide a good comparison of the two important documents.
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Policing
Sanders:
We must demilitarize our police forces so they dont look and act like invading armies.
We must invest in community policing. Only when we get officers into the communities, working within neighborhoods before trouble arises, do we develop the relationships necessary to make our communities safer together. Among other things, that means increasing civilian oversight of police departments.
We need police forces that reflect the diversity of our communities.
At the federal level we need to establish a new model police training program that reorients the way we do law enforcement in this country. With input from a broad segment of the community including activists and leaders from organizations like Black Lives Matter we will reinvent how we police America.
We need to federally fund and require body cameras for law enforcement officers to make it easier to hold them accountable.
Our Justice Department must aggressively investigate and prosecute police officers who break the law and hold them accountable for their actions.
We need to require police departments and states to provide public reports on all police shootings and deaths that take place while in police custody.
We need new rules on the allowable use of force. Police officers need to be trained to de-escalate confrontations and to humanely interact with people who have mental illnesses. States and localities that make progress in this area should get more federal justice grant money. Those that do not should get their funding slashed.
We need to make sure the federal resources are there to crack down on the illegal activities of hate groups.
O'Malley:
Mandate and Expand Data Reporting. The FBI does not collect data on police-involved shootings. Local data is also poor and incomplete. OMalley has called forand will strongly supportlegislation to require law enforcement agencies to report data on all police-involved shootings, custodial deaths, discourtesy complaints, and use of excessive force. This data should be centralized in a universal database and made publicly available, allowing communities to observe trends and develop policy responses when necessary.
Establish a National Use of Force Standard. State laws governing when police officers can use excessive force vary greatly. In order to protect citizen and officer safety, OMalley will put forward national guidelines on the use of force, linked to the expanded mandatory reporting detailed above. He will support legislation to require states to review and amend their own use of force laws to comply with federal guidelines.
Expand Community Collaboration and Civilian Review of Police Departments. OMalley would reward and encourage police departments to implement best practices in goal-oriented community policing, including through the eligibility criteria in federal grant programs. These include undergoing racial bias training and crisis de-escalation training; establishing internal accountability measures to track and review civilian complaints and address officer misconduct; and creating and empowering civilian review boards to independently monitor and audit policing cases.
Use Technology to Advance Transparency. Technologyincluding but not limited to body camerascan improve policing and build community trust in law enforcement. But it must meet community and local law enforcement needs, without infringing on individual rights.
OMalley will work with law enforcement, advocates, and other stakeholders to establish national standards for deploying and developing technology, while protecting privacy and communities access to data produced by body cameras or similar tools.
Encourage Independent Investigations of Policing Cases. Local prosecutors must work closely with local police on a day-to-day basis, creating possible conflicts of interest in cases regarding police misconduct. As a result, states and cities have begun to appoint special independent prosecutorsor prosecutors from other jurisdictionsin cases where police use deadly force. OMalley will make these measures model practices, and support legislation to encourage all states to adopt them.
Strengthen Federal Civil Rights Protections. Under the Obama Administration, the Department of Justices Civil Rights Division has successfully launched investigations into the deaths of Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner, and Michael Brown. However, the Departments ability to prosecute cases is limited because federal officials must meet a very high legal standard to bring civil rights charges. OMalley would call on Congress to revise this standard so that the federal government can act as an effective backstop for ensuring justice.
Reform Civil Asset Forfeiture to Prioritize Public Safety. Civil forfeiture allows law enforcement to seize any property they allege is involved in a crime, even if the owner has not been charged or convicted. Originally designed as a way to cripple large criminal organizations, civil forfeiture is now rarely used to address actual crime and is too often abused. OMalley will support bipartisan efforts in Congress to reform civil forfeiture statutes, reorienting law enforcement activity toward improving public safety and community policing
Phase Out Federal For-Profit Prisons. This includes closing for-profit immigration detention centers, while using alternatives to detention in the immigration context whenever possible
Make Robust Investments in Drug Treatment. OMalley will work to expand existing federal grants to states to support comprehensive drug treatment systems. He will call for tripling the number of states eligible for grants, as well as increasing the aid provided to each state. He will call for requiring states to make matching investmentsensuring that addiction is treated, and not ignored, at the local level. He will also support regulations and legislation to expand evidence-based treatment for addiction under Medicare and Medicaid.
Make Robust Investments in Community Mental Health Infrastructure. Although the rate of serious mental illness is two to six times higher among incarcerated populations, more than 80 percent of people with mental illness in jails and prisons do not receive care. OMalley will invest to provide adequate mental health treatment and substance abuse treatment within correctional facilities. Additionally, he will call for community-based recovery for individuals suffering from mental illness, setting a national target for reducing the number of Americans with serious mental illness behind bars. He will work with Congress to make critically needed investments in housing, supported employment, and outpatient treatment.
Train and Equip Law Enforcement to Serve People in Crisis. Police officers have increasingly become first responders to people with mental illness or substance abuse problems, often without adequate training. OMalley will establish federal guidelines for law enforcement on how to best serve people in crisisincluding de-escalating encounters, equipping specialized staff and response teams, and intervening in partnership with civilian service providers. He will use existing federal funds to support state Crisis Intervention Training, work with Congress to make additional investments, and require states to adopt federal crisis intervention guidelines.
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Voting Rights
Sanders:
We need to re-enfranchise the more than two million African Americans who have had their right to vote taken away by a felony conviction.
Congress must restore the Voting Rights Acts pre-clearance provision, which extended protections to minority voters in states where they were clearly needed.
We must expand the Acts scope so that every American, regardless of skin color or national origin, is able to vote freely.
We need to make Election Day a federal holiday to increase voters ability to participate.
We must make early voting an option for voters who work or study and need the flexibility to vote on evenings or weekends.
We must make no-fault absentee ballots an option for all Americans.
Every American over 18 must be registered to vote automatically, so that students and working people can make their voices heard at the ballot box.
We must put an end to discriminatory laws and the purging of minority-community names from voting rolls.
We need to make sure that there are sufficient polling places and poll workers to prevent long lines from forming at the polls anywhere.
O'Malley:
Restore Voting Rights to People with Felony Records. All those who served time and reentered society should be allowed to vote. OMalley will call for and strongly support legislation restoring voting rights to individuals with felony records. He will explore and take advantage of every opportunity to use federal funds and administrative solutions to encourage states to restore voting rights.
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Sentencing and Prisons
Sanders:
Millions of lives have been destroyed because people are in jail for nonviolent crimes. For decades, we have been engaged in a failed War on Drugs with racially-biased mandatory minimums that punish people of color unfairly.
It is an obscenity that we stigmatize so many young Americans with a criminal record for smoking marijuana, but not one major Wall Street executive has been prosecuted for causing the near collapse of our entire economy. This must change.
If current trends continue, one in four black males born today can expect to spend time in prison during their lifetime. Blacks are imprisoned at six times the rate of whites and a report by the Department of Justice found that blacks were three times more likely to be searched during a traffic stop, compared to white motorists. African-Americans are twice as likely to be arrested and almost four times as likely to experience the use of force during encounters with the police. This is an unspeakable tragedy.
It is morally repugnant and a national tragedy that we have privatized prisons all over America. In my view, corporations should not be allowed to make a profit by building more jails and keeping more Americans behind bars. We have got to end the private-for-profit prison racket in America. Profiting off the misery of incarcerated people is immoral and it is immoral to take campaign contributions from the private prison industry or its lobbyists.
The measure of success for law enforcement should not be how many people get locked up. We need to invest in drug courts as well as medical and mental health interventions for people with substance abuse problems, so that people struggling with addiction do not end up in prison, they end up in treatment.
For people who have committed crimes that have landed them in jail, there needs to be a path back from prison. The federal system of parole needs to be reinstated. We need real education and real skills training for the incarcerated.
We must end the over incarceration of nonviolent young Americans who do not pose a serious threat to our society. It is an international embarrassment that we have more people locked up in jail than any other country on earth more than even the Communist totalitarian state of China. That has got to end.
We must address the lingering unjust stereotypes that lead to the labeling of black youths as thugs. We know the truth that, like every community in this country, the vast majority of people of color are trying to work hard, play by the rules and raise their children. Its time to stop demonizing minority communities.
We must reform our criminal justice system to ensure fairness and justice for people of color.
We need to ban prisons for profit, which result in an over-incentive to arrest, jail and detain, in order to keep prison beds full.
We need to turn back from the failed War on Drugs and eliminate mandatory minimums which result in sentencing disparities between black and white people.
We need to invest in drug courts and medical and mental health interventions for people with substance abuse problems, so that they do not end up in prison, they end up in treatment.
We need to boost investments for programs that help people who have gone to jail rebuild their lives with education and job training
O'Malley:
Ban the Box. OMalley will use existing federal dollars to encourage states to adopt fair chance policies, which direct employers to delay criminal record inquiries and individually assess job applicants based on their qualifications. He will make the federal government a model employer by adopting fair chance hiring policies for all federal contractors and agencies.
Expunge or Seal Criminal Records. OMalley will also support legislation that provides paths to recourse for people with criminal records. This includes automatically expunging or sealing juvenile records, so young people have a fair chance to turn around their lives; allowing some categories of formerly incarcerated people to petition a court to seal their records; and expunging the records of arrests that did not lead to formal charges.
Ensure Access to Temporary Support. OMalley will call for and strongly support legislation that would end the drug felon ban on access to SNAP and TANF assistance. Formerly incarcerated people and their families should have access to crucial support to help them get on their feet after serving their time.
Invest in Job-Training Programs That Work. Roughly 9 million people return home from jail, and 650,000 from prison, every year. Getting and keeping a job is crucial to their ability to reenter their communitiesand thus to reducing recidivism, and incarceration costs, overall. OMalley will build on successful programs in Maryland and other states to train, place, and support those exiting the criminal justice system so they can secure employment. As president, he will work with Congress to secure additional funding forand legislation that expandscommunity-based job training programs.
Support Reentry Programming. Since 2008, the bipartisan Second Chance Act has funded critical community services that help people return to their families from prisons, jails, and juvenile facilities. OMalley will work with Congress to reauthorize and expand funding for Second Chance Act programs, and other important services that ease the transition back to the outside world. Such services include referrals for housing and benefits, substance abuse treatment, mentoring, education, and job training.
Expand Good Time Credits. OMalley will support legislation to allow people in federal prison to earn sentence-reduction credits by completing education and reentry programs. More broadly, he will support evidence-based, cost-effective reforms that allow people in prisons or jails to earn more good time credit for greater sentence reductions than federal law currently allows.
Support Access to Higher Education in Prison. OMalley will use existing funds and work with Congress to support multi-year educational and vocational training programs in correctional facilities, including providing funding for professional teachers and staff. He will also support legislation and take executive action to restore eligibility for Pell Grants for people in state and federal prison, which was eliminated in the 1994 crime bill. These investments will increase individuals chances of finding jobs once theyve done their time, and decrease their chances of cycling back into prison later in life.
Dramatically Reduce the Use of Solitary Confinement and Ban Solitary for Juveniles. Research shows that prisoners subjected to prolonged isolation may experience depression, rage, claustrophobia, hallucinations, and severe psychosis that can lead to random violence or suicide. Federal judges have called the long-term lack of interaction, mental stimulus, and exposure to nature beyond what most humans can psychologically tolerate. As president, OMalley will reverse the runaway growth of solitary confinement, limiting its use to the most serious in-prison offenders. He will also fight to pass legislation banning the federal use of solitary confinement for juveniles nationally.
Eliminate the Sentencing Disparity Between Crack and Powder Cocaine. This sentencing disparity has resulted in vast racial disparities within the justice system. Before Congress lowered the sentencing ratio in 2010 from 100:1 to 18:1, unjustifiably higher penalties for crack offenses led to African Americans serving roughly as much time for non-violent offenses as whites for violent offenses. OMalley has called for and will continue to support legislation to completely eliminate this sentencing disparity.
Declassify Marijuana as a Schedule I Drug. OMalley will direct the Attorney General to move to reclassify marijuana, while supporting bipartisan congressional efforts to legislatively reclassify marijuana as a Schedule II drug.
Reform Mandatory Minimum Sentencing. Over the past 30 years, mandatory minimum sentences have led to punishments that often do not fit the crime. Unnecessarily harsh sentences for non-violent offenses have not deterred crime, and have disproportionately impacted communities of color. OMalley will support legislation that eliminates mandatory minimums for low-level drug offenses, while giving judges more flexibility to tailor sentences based on the facts of each case. He will also continue the Department of Justices successful Smart on Crime initiative, directing U.S. Attorneys to exercise greater discretion in their charging decisions.
Forge Consensus for Ending the Death Penalty. The death penalty is a racially biased and ineffective deterrent, and the appeals process is expensive and cruel to surviving family members. OMalley has long opposed the death penalty as a matter of principle and as a matter of policy. As president, he will continue to oppose capital punishment and work to abolish death sentences under federal laws
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School Discipline
Sanders:
In addition to the physical violence faced by too many in our country we need look at the lives of black children and address a few other difficult facts. Black children, who make up just 18 percent of preschoolers, account for 48 percent of all out-of-school suspensions before kindergarten. We are failing our black children before kindergarten. Black students were expelled at three times the rate of white students. Black girls were suspended at higher rates than all other girls and most boys. According to the Department of Education, African American students are more likely to suffer harsh punishments suspensions and arrests at school
(There is no actual action plan provided by Sen. Sanders for the issue of public school discipline, but I included his recognition of the problem to contrast with O'Malley's reference in his plan)
O'Malley:
Enforce and Codify Federal Discipline Guidelines. Federal law already prohibits public school districts from administering student discipline in a discriminatory way. The Departments of Education and Justice put forward guidance last year to help schools identify, avoid, and remedy discriminatory discipline, so that all schools ensure equal educational opportunities for all students. OMalley will enforce this guidance by bringing federal investigations or charges when necessary, and call to codify the guidance into law.
Reinvest in Other Services and Supports for Teachers and Students. Underinvestment in public education has left many schools with too little funding for counselors, special educators, teacher training, and other needs. This has sometimes created an over-reliance on law enforcement and school resource officers to enforce discipline. OMalley will invest in federal grants to help deploy counselors and other school staff, including by reprioritizing existing federal funding currently used to place law enforcement officers in schools.
Ensure Access to Counsel and Legal Assistance. OMalley would invest to protect every Americans constitutional right to counsel, providing funding for legal aid programs and public defenders, and ensuring their independence.
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Economic Rights
Sen. Sanders includes a section at the end of his plan called 'Addressing Economic Violence'
We need to give our children, regardless of their race or their income, a fair shot at attending college. Thats why all public universities should be made tuition free.
We must invest $5.5 billion in a federally-funded youth employment program to employ young people of color who face disproportionately high unemployment rates.
Knowing that black women earn 64 cents on the dollar compared to white men, we must pass federal legislation to establish pay equity for women.
We must prevent employers from discriminating against applicants based on criminal history.
We need to ensure access to quality affordable childcare for working families.
Martin O'Malley makes a summary mention of economic issues in his plan:
As a nation, we must strive to remove barriers to full participation in the social, economic, and political life of our nation, once and for all. Legal equality is absolutely necessary but not sufficient we must strive for equal opportunity and a fair shot for everyone. That means helping to ensure good jobs that provide stable incomes; universal, high-quality childcare; affordable housing and homeownership; and greater equity in our education and health care systemsfor all Americans.
Governor OMalley has already called for a number of actions that would support greater economic security and opportunity for communities of color, including:
Raising the minimum wage to $15 dollars an hour.
Empowering labor unions.
Greatly expanding access to national service and job opportunities for young people.
Ensuring young people can attend public colleges and universities debt-free.
Passing comprehensive immigration reform.
Investing in universal childcare.
In the coming weeks and months, Governor OMalley will lay out comprehensive plans to address poverty and support the millions of American families striving to join the middle class, as well as put forth agendas to reform K-12 education, address homeownership and the rental crisis, and improve access to affordable healthcare.
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Immigration Rights
Martin O'Mally has included a section on immigration rights on his page which doesn't appear to have a comparative one on Sen. Sander's...
As president, Governor OMalley will:
Use Detention Only as a Last Resort. OMalley will direct the Department of Homeland Security to use alternatives to detention for the vast majority of people, including for all children, families, LGBT individuals, and other vulnerable individuals. This includes using the family placement and community-based supervision policies he successfully implemented in Maryland. He will also work with Congress to repeal mandatory detention and deportation laws, and to codify higher detention standards. When detention must be used, OMalley will ensure conditions are humane and in line with our basic values as a nation.
End Operation Streamline. Under Operation Streamline, federal attorneys criminally prosecute, in assembly-line settings, virtually all undocumented immigrants that enter the United States through the Southern border. Fast-track prosecutions and group hearings raise serious concerns regarding the violation of due process. Moreover, thousands of immigrants who try to enter or re-enter the United States are the parents of U.S. citizens attempting to reunite with their loved ones. OMalley will direct federal prosecutors to focus only on priority entry and reentry casesthose involving national security or serious crimesand work with Congress to repeal the Operation Streamline program.
Disentangle Local Law Enforcement From Immigration Enforcement. Our immigration policies have fallen short of their goal to pinpoint and detain individuals who pose a clear and present danger to public safety. Instead, they have created an indiscriminate dragnet that can encourage racial profiling and undermines trust between law enforcement and New American communities. OMalley has outlined his plan for disentangling law enforcement from immigration enforcement, including by closing loopholes in DOJ guidance that allow DHS agencies to profile Americans based on their ethnicity and religion.
Set High Standards for Customs and Border Protection (CBP). CBP is the nations largest law enforcement agency, and CBP officers must have the support and tools they need to do their jobs well. OMalley will require CBP to implement the best practices in law enforcement, including equipping officers with body cameras, tracking and disclosing discourtesy and brutality complaints, providing robust training, and holding agents accountable for the use of excessive force.
Ensure Due Process. OMalley will also implement critical reforms to expand due process protections in our detention and immigration systems, including providing counsel for immigrants in deportation proceedings, increasing the number of immigration judges and courts, ending telephonic and video hearings for detainees, and ensuring language access.
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There is a great deal of rhetoric included in both candidate's plans. I've separated much of it from their policy prescriptions to better view their actual proposals. Still, it's important enough to their campaigns, so I think it's important enough to visit the respective candidates' pages and read through their reasoning and policy introductions.
read Bernie Sanders' 'Racial Justice' plan in full here: https://berniesanders.com/issues/racial-justice/
read Martin O'Malley's 'Reinvestment and Rehabilitation Framework for Americas Criminal Justice System' here: https://martinomalley.com/policy/criminal-justice/
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)That is not a "plan" by Sanders, those are vague and unconvincing promises....suddenly written.
He thinks this will end the protests and criticism?
These are not serious "proposals" by Sanders. You can not just hastily write a few brief paragraphs or mouth a few general platitudes and say that is what it takes for "racial justice", you need an actual plan!
Otherwise black folk might get rightly upset at the condensending attitude so unknown to those with white privilege, but very familiar to black folks - and protest it all, again.
Sanders should just adopt the O'Malley plan, I am sure he would not mind!
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Like you have the tools to assess it. Ah the Internet...
cali
(114,904 posts)Response to cali (Reply #14)
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aikoaiko
(34,178 posts)LynnTTT
(362 posts)I will be speaking for O'Malley's positions at a Democratic Club meeting in my 55+ community. About 10 people want to speak on behalf of Hillary, about 5 for Sanders and I was the only one picking O'Malley. Of course, almost everyone picked Hillary in 2008 also.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...I hope you are a stand-out among candidate supporters there. Your candidate certainly offers a great deal of substance to promote.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)on closing all private prisons for starters.
FSogol
(45,504 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Although I admit O'Malley's plan to arrest so many people in Baltimore for every little thing seems to be working all over America, to this day. With very bad consequences. Now he wants to fix it, I guess.
And - we have all been told that campaign rhetoric, etc., is designed to get votes, and we are not supposed to bitch later if something does not happen. Been there, done that.
And - I think that here at DU, most people are not one-issue supporters or purists. Which disappoints some, I am sure. As far as I am concerned, detailed plans are great, there is nothing that would keep whoever gets elected from using that detailed plan, and I never assume that anyone's detailed plan will be actually implemented in full. I suspect handouts to Democratic voters with this stuff may be more useful in the outside world.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Can not do anything about CU with the GOP in power in Congress, but doesn't Sanders talk about overturning CU all the time!? Should he also not bother talking about that? As one example?
djean111
(14,255 posts)a reason to switch support. Detailed plans are galaxies better than vague responses, too.
Your OP seemed to be all about the difference in detail, which is what I responded to.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Folks need to take a harder look at supporting O'Malley, that is one smart dude.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Yeah, he is smart - I believe his arrest everybody on the streets for everything detailed plan is responsible for a lot of today's police actions.
Oh, and are you saying the other candidates are stupid????
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...should they actually achieve office. Stated intentions of candidates can be so general and vague that any measure resembling the rhetoric can be advanced and claimed as fulfillment of a promise.
We need less pablum and pronouncements of the problems we face and more actual solutions proposed by the people we elect. Cynicism about the eventual result of such efforts is a product of a failure of voters and others to hold these politicians accountable once they've achieved office. This isn't a beauty or popularity contest. It's an effort to find a candidate who will elevate our interests and concerns to a national level of importance and ACT on them, if elected.
We've had enough trust-based politics, relying on the character of the people we elect, only to find that our demands are compromised down to a faint echo of the promises made. More accountability is needed, and now is the time to demand specificity to their intentions behind their rhetoric.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Congress, or whatever. Or the Party has told them how to vote.
I trust Bernie. Others trust O'Malley. Still others trust Hillary. That's the way it is. No one has showed me any reason to NOT trust Bernie, for instance, and also I see nothing in that detailed plan, even if it is the very best one, that would preclude it from being implemented by whoever does get elected.
I think O'Malley's original Baltimore plan to decrease crime statistics by arresting everybody on the streets for every little thing has influenced some of the very disparate treatment of black people and white people by the police to this very day.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...secondly, that was not the totality of the O'Malley administration's police department's crime plan, although many here would like to focus on that to the exclusion of the rest of their crime reducing and policing efforts.
Third, to suggest that a policy which was implemented and ended over a decade ago is still responsible for 'influencing' the Baltimore police department today ignores the successive administrations and their own policies which have been described by many of the administrators as different from O'Malley's in respect to that one aspect of their policing. If there is an effort to attribute a cause to the 'disparate' treatment of black people in Baltimore today, that responsibility would fall on the administrations in charge over the years since he left office, not a result of a policy which was ended by the courts over a decade ago.
Fourth, there's a myopic focus by critics of the policy of arrests for petty crimes (which resulted in little more than police-issued citations in the end for most detained) while ignoring the lives saved and defended against the rampant violence O'Malley found and acted against in those predominately black neighborhoods. Those same black residents in those neighborhoods supported O'Malley repeatedly and overwhelmingly in each of his successive elections to office.
What critics fail to acknowledge is the 'abusive' impact on communities which resulted from unabated violent criminal activity in those communities as a consequence of open-air drug markets and the categories of crimes which plagued residents. Most of those arrests under 'zero-tolerance' were for petty offenses and mostly un-prosecuted.
Conflating those with the issues of violent crime and police brutality, as critics seek to do, misrepresents the challenges those communities faced and the impact of those arrests for loitering, public drunkenness, and other petty offenses which were found unconstitutional by courts. Little attention is given to sharp reductions in violent crime during his term, or the lives saved by separate policing efforts related to THOSE violent offenses.
There should be an equal and fair concern for the lives impacted by the criminality and killings which made Baltimore one of the most violent and deadly cities in America before he took office. In that effort to reclaim communities from the open-air drug markets which plagued the lives of citizens forced to work, school, and live there, the totality of O'Malley's administration's policing efforts reduced violent crime by over 40% -well above the national average decrease at the time of 11%. That represents 100's of lives saved. He oversaw and fought for the ending of the death penalty, commuting sentences still on death row; signed into law the decriminalization of small amounts of pot; increased drug treatment, reclaiming lives in the process...
His police dept. changed the way incidents of police misconduct were reported and handled by establishing an active review board and a hotline for reporting police abuse or misconduct. Under his term there were over 100 'reverse integrity' stings of police conducted a year. They fully staffed the civilian review board including detectives on the board to investigate claims against police. They used technology to flag abusive officers who racked up complaints.
As O'Malley said in a response to criticisms, if those had been white-majority communities, there would be no question of the swift and thorough response to drug-related crime and violence which threatened and cost black lives, many young black lives. During his time as governor, recidivism was cut significantly, and incarceration rates were actually REDUCED in his terms to 20 year lows; and voting rights were restored to 52,000 individuals with felonies...
It had nothing to do with the issue of police brutality or police shootings. In fact ALL police shootings, fatal and otherwise, dropped sharply during his administration. Police were held more accountable due to the measures that I listed above. The record under O'Malley is that drug treatment was increased dramatically. Lives were saved by the totality of his administration's policing efforts which involved much more than 'zero-tolerance' arrests. That's something which says black lives mattered to O'Malley to me. I'm sure the folks who voted for him repeatedly understood that, as well.
(I've lived in suburban and metropolitan Maryland for over 45 years)
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)go down - and it does all the time locally due to thoughtful community action - why is it that folks are so slow to give credit, but the same folks so swift to condemn and be outraged when crime goes up?
Where is the balance in thought and action?
I blame the ambulance and blood chasing media for most of that sharp divide in logic.
OM did an outstanding job on a difficult crime situation up until his absence 10 years ago, the history is recorded accurately on that.
FSogol
(45,504 posts)Fred Sanders
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for compliance and the person with the plan can be held to account.
No accountability due to lack of details means it never was a plan in the first place.
djean111
(14,255 posts)There is currently no actual downside to a politician not doing what they said they would do, until the next election - and even that is limited, because if the politician snagged some big donors and/or no one else primaries them, the other candidates are even worse, etc., they likely will even get reelected. Some ranting on the internet, some angry emails and phone calls - mean absolutely nothing.
How many successful recalls have there been? Damned few - looks to me like the person being "held accountable" has usually found some deep pockets to fund a fight against recalls - like Scott Walker.
"Held to account" - sorry, as far as I can see, once a politician is elected, there is not much anyone can do to really hold them to account in any meaningful way.
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)At least not until it comes time for re-election.
Obama's actions haven't quite matched all the campaign rhetoric either. Some yes, some no...
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Has everyone decided that amnesia is a good thing?
djean111
(14,255 posts)el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)in regards to Bernie Sanders - it is an issues page; not a comprehensive plan. You might argue that he should have a comprehensive plan; which I wouldn't disagree with, but calling this a plan and then dinging it for not being a plan isn't really fair.
Bryant
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)A plan is a plan is a plan and Sanders has none.
Why such excruciating detail on "economic justice" and generalized platitudes for "racial justice"?
O'Malley's plan, each detailed component also supported by Obama and every liberal criminal justice advocate you will ever meet, puts even Clinton's plan for racial justice to shame.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)But I'm not black. So perhaps I'll hold my tongue. I am impressed with O'Malley.
I guess if I was Hillary Clinton I'd be eager to see Sanders and O'Malley knocked out as quickly as possible so I could stop pretending to be a liberal and start getting more that delicious corporate cash.
Bryant
cali
(114,904 posts)John Lewis and Cory Booker amoung others, disagree with you. And the emphasis on economic fairness is critical. There is no shortage of dems supporting social justice- as Bernie has throughout his life. There is a severe drought of those going after the dangerous economic disparities that plague our society.
Decades ago, my father, a highly successful business owner/manufacturer said repeatedly that the greed of his peers, would be the demise of this country if left unchecked; that the increasing gap between the wealthy and the poor was the greatest threat to the country. He was rather a far seeing guy. (He loved your country, btw, and lived there several.months of the year).
Bernie gets what a danger economic disparity is, as well as getting social issues.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)bigtree
(86,005 posts)First, I don't see where I'm 'dinging' him at all. 'Dinging' would be calling him out for an insufficiently organized and summarized plan, which I'm not sure is fair, either. I'm not sure he intends to put out a more comprehensive presentation.
At any rate, I thought I gave him more of a benefit of respect calling this something more than just an issues page. I've noticed that several of his supporters are heralding this as a plan.
Rather than change the heading right now, I'll just let this sit and see what his supporters think. Is it sufficient enough for them? Or are they anticipating a more detailed plan?
Here's an article which mentioned the arrival of a Sander's plan 'in the near future...'
Bernie Sanders has hired Symone Sanders as national press secretary...Among her jobs will be helping to sell a promised comprehensive criminal justice policy package she helped to craft and said will be coming from the Sanders campaign in the near future.
At some point, O'Malley's effort deserves to be measured against the other candidate's efforts in this regard. There was a WaPo article this week comparing the efforts of candidates and they concluded that Sanders didn't have one at all. Now we have something to compare. it's really not mine or O'Malley's fault that this is what's been offered by the Sanders campaign.
Maybe this is their idea of 'comprehensive.'
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)hopefully adopt it word for word, a teaching moment if you will....OM took 2 years to lay out his wonderfully detailed and liberal plan, everyone backed up by social science research and hard facts and his own personal experience and accumulated knowledge.
It deserves all the attention and respect that can be mustered.
FSogol
(45,504 posts)of the issues he talks about already as Governor of Maryland.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Stay topical..what do folks think of the MO plan?
FSogol
(45,504 posts)marijuana. He also increased minority hiring of police, allowed felons to regain their right to vote following their sentences, reduced recidivism, and created a civilian review board over the police.
You might call that magic, but I think it is hard work and the expenditure of political capital.
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)What FSogol said!!
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)FSogol
(45,504 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,998 posts)O'Malley is better than Sanders or Hillary on this issue. He's thought it through, he has a workable plan--and HAS had one. It's not political expediency, it's part of who he is.
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)concrete to debate..that our candidates stand for.. and this screaming at each other for what some other person said or did on DU or Twitter or social media in general is just pointless..
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)to condemn the private prison system, as evil as private health systems, to me.
That is going to be a litmus test for me. That some "bundlers" are bundling campaign money for Clinton is not in her control, and is more a condemnation of the fucked up campaign laws, or lack thereof, than anything nefarious. Still, I wish she would take a clear stand rejecting both the private prison industry and their fucking blood money.
O'M has a detailed plan to get rid of them, a doable plan, and clearly he is passionate about it.
I do not see either the plan or the passion in any other candidate.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)and that was early last year.. He was here locally and I had a chance to have a one on one with him and encouraged him to run.. He was starting to give it serious consideration.. everyone else is a follower as far as I am concerned.. He is the first out there and the one with the most thought out policies and plans..
On this we are in 100% total agreement..
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)People can read this and form their own opinions. I'm glad that both candidates are addressing these important issues.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...and I'd absolutely love to see a more detailed effort. I don't know if that's forthcoming.
Anyway, it's gratifying to see so many points of agreement between the two in so many issues.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)There is no question that these are problems that must be addressed with great urgency. The good news is we as democrats agree on most all of these proposals for reform, and that they are fixable. We need more people like Martin O'Malley, more people like Bernie Sanders to help fix them. I believe Hillary Clinton is talking about these things too, though I'm not as familiar with her plan. I know President Obama is trying his best as well. I can feel positive change coming on. We must continue doing all we can locally. It will take each and every one of us. Many who read and post here at DU are also part of helping improve things. Have a good evening bigtree and thanks for also being part of the solution.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Last edited Mon Aug 10, 2015, 11:16 AM - Edit history (1)
for either Bernie or Hillary. My problem is that I don't think he has the charisma of Bernie or the MIC backing of Hillary's Campaign to get elected President. The passions of the moment in the country would seem to demand a stronger figure.
Watching the Clown Car "debate" there wasn't anyone besides John Kasich that I could see as nominee for Repubs. Jeb looked like he would rather be somewhere else (that could change) and the rest just didn't have the gravitas that would seem to capture the mood of the country today. The Repubs best bet of McCain/Palin went down even when we were in the fever of the RW Christian onslaught and Romney/Ryan were a dud because people were still feeling the painful aftermath of the Wall Street Meltdown and Romney had too much baggage along with a corporate demeanor that just didn't sell.
It seems to me that the mood of the country is very serious these days and more inclined to work harder for the "Change" we didn't quite fulfill with Obama (certainly not entirely his fault). Bernie (so far) is catching the moment of a spirit of "revolution" in the air supported by a war weary people who are seeing their lives and future much worse than they could have anticipated.
The social unrest in the country is growing (as it was in the 60's) with many of the same issues coming back to haunt. O'Malley is very appealing...and as VP would have influence and be an asset to either Dem Candidate. Just my humble opinion/observation.
askew
(1,464 posts)I'd love to see a round-up of reactions from activists/interest groups/reporters to both plans for comparison.
I know for O'Malley's plan, activists/interest groups were gobsmacked by how progressive it was and how detailed. He included things they never even dreamed of asking for and he really showed that he was listening to BLM and DREAM Coalition, etc. when it comes to crafting the plan. I saw one immigration activist who said she never heard of any politician outside a local Arizona politician even talk about Operation Streamline let alone pledge to end it.
And I really like that he included immigration in criminal justice reform. It is an essential part of the problem with the abuses in detention facilities and with ICE. Pretty disappointed to see Sanders not address that.
As for Hillary, Karen Finney and other people working for Hillary were on twitter last night trying to tell people that Hillary did have a plan and had talked about it way before O'Malley/Sanders. When people asked for links for the plan, she got snotty.
I am sick of the media pushing this idea Hillary is a policy wonk, etc. and then lets her skate by with plans with almost no specifics.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...hopefully presented without the media's standard cynicism.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/10/1410575/-Bernie-O-Malley-release-strong-policy-plans-addressing-police-brutality-Still-waiting-on-Hillary
Clinton will need to release a criminal justice platform soon. The absence of one is now glaring given that Sanders & O'Malley already have.
deray mckesson (@deray) August 10, 2015
When activist DeRay McKesson raised this thought on Twitter Sunday evening, Karen Finney, senior advisor for communications and political outreach for Hillary Clinton, instead of politely acknowledging the reality that Clinton had not yet released her plan, appeared halfway indignant in her response:
@AliWilbur @deray actually he's wrong - she's put forward specific policy proposals on crim justice reform, voting rights, & economic issues
Karen Finney (@finneyk) August 10, 2015
@deray but you ain't tellin the whole deal. That's my concern.
Karen Finney (@finneyk) August 10, 2015
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...recognizing they're 'meaningless' to some posters here.
askew
(1,464 posts)It's dying a quick death though.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251508618
I also posted it at Daily Kos and it got lost in the pie fights.
It's frustrating because it takes a long time to do these pieces and instead of discussion about policy we have post after post on the same subject.