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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:09 AM Aug 2015

Would the disruption have happened if the Westlake rally hadn't been on the Ferguson anniversary?

I've been pondering that. Wondering if that's what set these women off...if they took the scheduling of the event as agesture of contempt to the memory of the victims and somehow thought the timing was Bernie's fault somehow.

I can sort of understand how that might have been inadvertently provocative to them it was that...but if it was, I think they could have made their point and had more sympathy from the crowd if they had disrupted at the beginning of the rally.

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Would the disruption have happened if the Westlake rally hadn't been on the Ferguson anniversary? (Original Post) Ken Burch Aug 2015 OP
Do you know when the 2? disruptors arrived? they may have not been there for hours like others were. Sunlei Aug 2015 #1
I don't know when they showed up. Seems to me, though, Ken Burch Aug 2015 #2
Their public twitter messages/face book chatter probably exposes their entire day and plans. Sunlei Aug 2015 #4
Sounds like a dumb reason to me Travis_0004 Aug 2015 #3
Yes. TM99 Aug 2015 #5
I'm only asking this question to see if we can learn from this Ken Burch Aug 2015 #6
I still see many seeking justifications TM99 Aug 2015 #9
It was the day before the anniversary muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #7
Yes. mmonk Aug 2015 #8

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
1. Do you know when the 2? disruptors arrived? they may have not been there for hours like others were.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:19 AM
Aug 2015

I guess a way to find out is to read their public tweets, people tend to twitter/facebook their entire actions from start to result. They want to be noticed.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
2. I don't know when they showed up. Seems to me, though,
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:31 AM
Aug 2015

that they would have had to get there fairly early to be positioned as close to the stage as they were.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
4. Their public twitter messages/face book chatter probably exposes their entire day and plans.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:50 AM
Aug 2015

Unless they had a totally private 'plan' to crash Sen. Sanders, that wasn't even shared with the PUBLIC #Black Lives Matter social media twitter and facebook chats.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
3. Sounds like a dumb reason to me
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:43 AM
Aug 2015

It would be stupid to say we cant do anything because it was the anniversary of mike browns death. For all theh know maybe bearnie was planning on talking about it

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
5. Yes.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:25 AM
Aug 2015

They are disruptive radical extremists.

Why would an event that was to mark the anniversary of Social Security and Medicare be provocative to them? And frankly, who cares if it was? It was not for the other black man who spoke earlier as a representative of BLM.

I see so many posts this morning trying to find a rational explanation for why two immature extremists did what they did and to justify their behavior. There is no rational explanation except the obvious one that they provided themselves. They are fundamentalists, right of center, AA extremists, and not representative of the BLM movement itself. At least I hope not.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
6. I'm only asking this question to see if we can learn from this
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:28 AM
Aug 2015

And find a way to both advance the BLM agenda(one we basically all support, AFAIK)and create a non-toxic political atmosphere in which the seeds of a transformative, progressive victory can be sowed.

Seeking an explanation is not the same as seeking a justification.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
9. I still see many seeking justifications
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:46 AM
Aug 2015

in those explanations.

If the protest in question was toxic to start with, my contention is that it does not matter why. What matters is that BLM distances themselves and stay focused on their stated goals, and Sanders continues with his strong support for social & economic justice.

This event is a wedge for both serious parties involved. Legitimizing the disrupters makes the focus on them and not BLM or Sander's campaign.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,346 posts)
7. It was the day before the anniversary
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:31 AM
Aug 2015

Michael Brown was killed on August 9th; the anniversary was Sunday. The Seattle rally for social security was on Saturday August 8th.

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