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sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 02:28 AM Aug 2015

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Bernie will wipe the floor with any one of the Corporate tools from the Republican Party in the GE.

It's the Progressive Message people are responding to.

AND his focus on the corrosive, corrupting effects of money in politics.

We WERE told that a Progressive Message 'won't sell'! We were misled as polls contradict that across the political spectrum.

He is shattering all the myths we have been fed for so long, including that you CANNOT run a a good campaign WITHOUT Corporate billions.
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If You Share One Picture Today .... (Original Post) sabrina 1 Aug 2015 OP
I wrote this elsewhere artislife Aug 2015 #1
That's an excellent question. I pointed out somewhere today that the polls sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #2
We had people next our lines artislife Aug 2015 #4
Are you going to the LA event? sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #8
No, but my brother and girlfriend artislife Aug 2015 #13
We are actually going if we can swing it. TM99 Aug 2015 #20
Oregon has a primary in May. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #15
I was sitting next to someone from across the border in Camus (near Vancouver)... cascadiance Aug 2015 #18
I know quite a few volunteers, etc. were tasked to bring voter registration forms to the event... cascadiance Aug 2015 #17
That's good to know. People who are non voters eg, might sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #29
And 20,000 with an additional 9,000 outside who couldn't get in Catherina Aug 2015 #3
Was that in Portland? n/t Suich Aug 2015 #5
Yes. With 8,000 in overflow area + 10,000 online Catherina Aug 2015 #6
Terrific...thanks! Suich Aug 2015 #7
Thank you, I was going to mention that there more than the 20,000 sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #9
These numbers surpass anything I imagined! Especially so early Catherina Aug 2015 #12
I was already signed in and was outside when they shut the doors.. cascadiance Aug 2015 #19
How exciting it must have been to see all those people! sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #31
Me, Me, Me! SoapBox Aug 2015 #30
The Fight For 15 movement helped organize this event. Great to see all these sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #32
It was cool to see one of the "15" signs pop up on screen when Bernie talked about it... cascadiance Aug 2015 #41
They have adopted him as their candidate because he is the only one running sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #43
wonder what the guy in #1's thinking: "look at all those pear-shaped losers" MisterP Aug 2015 #10
Lol, not too much enthusiasm for all those Republican 'stars' sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #11
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #14
His message reverberates on a deep level, like Occupy did dougolat Aug 2015 #16
No objection to crediting Bernie Sanders with successful turnout... brooklynite Aug 2015 #21
LOL. Are you seriously defending Faux Nooz? Cosmic Kitten Aug 2015 #22
I'm stating facts: the OP implies that the small crowd at 5 PM was reflective of interest... brooklynite Aug 2015 #23
Oh, OK. Thanks for "clarifying" the dismal showing on FAUX NOOZ Cosmic Kitten Aug 2015 #25
Okay, you may be right, I didn't put this together, however considering sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #24
They may be correct, but why defend republican events??? Cosmic Kitten Aug 2015 #26
Yes, I am not really interested in defending anything they do. And it's also sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #34
Meanwhile, at NASCAR jberryhill Aug 2015 #27
There's also this picture. DanTex Aug 2015 #28
And then there are all the people who don't have landlines no one is calling. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #35
Two seprate points in response Armstead Aug 2015 #37
Got any source info for that? nt 2naSalit Aug 2015 #38
It's from reuters DanTex Aug 2015 #39
Thanks. nt 2naSalit Aug 2015 #40
See my response re who is NOT being polled. If you don't have a landline sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #44
the real work for the Sanders campaign ibegurpard Aug 2015 #33
Yes, and apparently, according to DUers who have attended some of the events, sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #36
This is a misleading comparison. procon Aug 2015 #42
And out in the RW Bernie continues to beat all Republican front runners sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #46
He's one of a very few that can excite the electorate Babel_17 Aug 2015 #45
I so want to see a debate with Bernie in one corner... HappyPlace Aug 2015 #47
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
1. I wrote this elsewhere
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 02:30 AM
Aug 2015

but I really would like to know how many of those 28,000 have answered a poll.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
2. That's an excellent question. I pointed out somewhere today that the polls
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 02:35 AM
Aug 2015

we are seeing are not including all the non-voters who are supporting Bernie, but haven't registered anywhere yet, the Independents, the Repubs and there are some of those, Left Leaning Libertarians. Those polls only reflect the base of the party.

However, Bernie doesn't much care about polls, he has spent 0 on polls while Hillary's campaign has spent nearly one million.

I think he wants to keep it all focused on the issues and not bother people with polls etc at this point.

But I do wonder how many of the people at all these events are Dems. Good question.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
4. We had people next our lines
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 02:38 AM
Aug 2015

Giving people information on caucuses!

I am sure Portland is doing the same or more!

I can't wait to see the numbers tomorrow. My brother and his girlfriend are even far more left than I am and they are excited to be going!
The work in immigration, helping people stay.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
20. We are actually going if we can swing it.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:13 AM
Aug 2015

A close friends daughter that I have know since she was a girl stays in touch with me every few months. She is a sex-worker, back-up singer, and a CoS Satanist. She is about as apolitical as they come. So she called me this weekend for our usual chat. She is psyched about Sanders and invited us to stay with her & to attend his event there in LA. Frankly, I was rather flabbergasted!

So hopefully we will be there! Can't wait!

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
15. Oregon has a primary in May.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 04:12 AM
Aug 2015

Washington(just across the Columbia)has caucuses in March. I think a lot of SW Washington folks may have turned up in PDX tonight-it's a much shorter trip for them than Seattle is.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
18. I was sitting next to someone from across the border in Camus (near Vancouver)...
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:02 AM
Aug 2015

No doubt there were quite a few from Vancouver area.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
17. I know quite a few volunteers, etc. were tasked to bring voter registration forms to the event...
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:01 AM
Aug 2015

... I saw a couple of friends with a couple of piles of them.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
29. That's good to know. People who are non voters eg, might
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 12:32 PM
Aug 2015

not realize they can't wait until election day to vote for Bernie. Good to GOTV right now.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
3. And 20,000 with an additional 9,000 outside who couldn't get in
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 02:36 AM
Aug 2015

So much for that mushy center. People who insist on standing in the middle of the road eventually get run over.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
6. Yes. With 8,000 in overflow area + 10,000 online
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 02:55 AM
Aug 2015
Portland set the record tonight. Including the 9,000 who couldn’t get in the doors, an astonishing 28,000 people showed up for our rally. We began this campaign all of three and a half months ago and the momentum has been nothing less than extraordinary. This campaign is sending a message to the billionaire class: Yes we do have the guts to take you on! They may have unlimited sums of money, but we have a united people.

https://www.facebook.com/berniesanders


Some more pictures here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/128035030

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
9. Thank you, I was going to mention that there more than the 20,000
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 03:06 AM
Aug 2015

reported, but I'm not sure this was Portland after reading the text on the side. I think it must be though, as this was the biggest crowd so far.

Great links, thanks, I love the photos in that link.

I have to admit when Bernie said he would need a political revolution even if he won, I was skeptical that people would show up. These numbers are amazing, even in Texas and Az they had to move to bigger venues. It shows how starved people are to hear someone talk about the issues they want to talk about and how ANGRY they are at the way things are.

One thing he frequently says and I agree, this isn't about him, and we should remember that. The FIRST step to getting ANYTHING done is to get the money out of politics because until we do that, nothing else can be done.'

If his campaign does nothing more than make this the #1 issue in this race, the country will have taken the first major step towards the BEGINNING of reversing the course we are now so disastrously on.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
12. These numbers surpass anything I imagined! Especially so early
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 03:24 AM
Aug 2015

I agree with you about people being angry and starved to talk about the issues that matter to us but I think there's another very important thing- he's forthright in an age of duplicity, complicity and lip service for votes. And you're right, he's right. It's not about him- it's about us. Make it November already lol!

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
19. I was already signed in and was outside when they shut the doors..
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:05 AM
Aug 2015

... and were telling people that they were getting close to capacity at that point. There were still HUGE lines that were stretched out for blocks at that point.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
31. How exciting it must have been to see all those people!
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 12:36 PM
Aug 2015

I'm envious, hoping there will be some events in NY within a few hours drive of where we are soon. I was surprised though to see so many groups upstate participating in the video meetups. This is a fairly conservative part of NY so didn't expect to see much support, or even knowledge of who Bernie is. But contrary to that, there were several groups who are now working to get the word out to more people up here.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
30. Me, Me, Me!
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 12:33 PM
Aug 2015

I was online...and I've been pointing out that even pdxdavid, who was in South Korea was watching!

I seriously think it was even more than 10,000 because of multiple feeds.

Go BERNIE!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
32. The Fight For 15 movement helped organize this event. Great to see all these
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 12:38 PM
Aug 2015

movements supporting Bernie's campaign. As it grows and grows. They are very active and worked hard to get the word out that Bernie, who supports their cause, was coming to town!

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
41. It was cool to see one of the "15" signs pop up on screen when Bernie talked about it...
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 01:15 PM
Aug 2015

... right behind him as he was speaking, and was advocating a decent national minimum wage too. A definite utube moment!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
43. They have adopted him as their candidate because he is the only one running
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 01:59 PM
Aug 2015

who publicly supports the $15 min wage. Hillary apparently will only go to $12 and that after remaining silent on the issue for so long.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
11. Lol, not too much enthusiasm for all those Republican 'stars'
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 03:19 AM
Aug 2015

going by that first picture. That is embarrassing. Though I know they are all running in order to collect some corporate money.

dougolat

(716 posts)
16. His message reverberates on a deep level, like Occupy did
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 04:56 AM
Aug 2015

And, like Occupy, he will get Rovian dirty tricks and Koch-fiend interference, that serve to give the owned media a way to talk about Bernie without dealing with that powerful message, don't you think?

brooklynite

(94,667 posts)
21. No objection to crediting Bernie Sanders with successful turnout...
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:08 AM
Aug 2015

...but the comparison to the Junior Varsity debate is inappropriate. FOX NEWS, for whatever reason, didn't open the area to viewers (the people in the audience are network and campaign reps). I have no doubt they would have filled the area to the same level as the 9 PM program.

brooklynite

(94,667 posts)
23. I'm stating facts: the OP implies that the small crowd at 5 PM was reflective of interest...
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 10:20 AM
Aug 2015

...while certainly NOT as popular as Bernie's rallies, there certainly was a higher interest in the early forum than was reflected in the seated attendees. In particular, consider the interest in Carly Fiorina.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
24. Okay, you may be right, I didn't put this together, however considering
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 11:27 AM
Aug 2015

they were the leas -likely-to-win candidates, had it been opened up to the public, it's safe to say the numbers would have been less than the numbers for the top candidates.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
34. Yes, I am not really interested in defending anything they do. And it's also
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 12:43 PM
Aug 2015

possible they didn't open it up knowing what a dismal showing there would be. These morons know they don't have a chance, but are just cashing in on the Corporate donations they will probably get from their real bosses.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
27. Meanwhile, at NASCAR
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 12:25 PM
Aug 2015




If political candidates went 200 mph and crashed into walls every now and then, they get even larger crowds.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
35. And then there are all the people who don't have landlines no one is calling.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 12:46 PM
Aug 2015

Why are Hillary supporters so focused on polls? Bernie doesn't care about them, he doesn't look at polls to find out what it might 'politically safe' to say.

His campaign in signing up Independents and non-voters, none of whom are going to be reflected in this polls, but when they are, some people are going to be pretty shocked.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
37. Two seprate points in response
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 12:50 PM
Aug 2015

1) Look at the mushrooming polls for Donald Trump

2) That exactly why more debates are needed-- and sooner. People should get a chance to hear and see Sanders, Clinton, O'Malley and (I guess) Webb and Chaffee, and be able to make informed choices with greater knowledge of who they all are.

Fine. If Clinton holds her own and maintains strong support after that, at least one reason would be knowledge of the candidates and what they stand for, rather than name recognition and Conventional Wisdom memes dispensed by the elite status quo.



sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
44. See my response re who is NOT being polled. If you don't have a landline
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 02:05 PM
Aug 2015

the chances of you being asked for opinion are pretty slim. While pollsters have finally acknowledged the importance of the change in how people communicate, they are still far behind those changes.

I'm waiting to see polls of Independents without landlines, most of the younger generation, eg. I eg, will not be getting polled. My MIL was polled all the time on her landline, not her cell phone as she is a longtime registered Dem.

So these polls mean nothing, other than Hillary's numbers if we believe the week by week polls we saw on DU when no one else was in the race, have dropped several points, Bernie's are trending upward.

He is within 4 points of Hillary now in NH eg. But as I said, the first step for his campaign to get some name recognition, no one is going to vote for someone in a poll if they never heard of them before.

He is doing a fantastic job of that first step and isn't worrying about polls.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
33. the real work for the Sanders campaign
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 12:38 PM
Aug 2015

Is getting all these people registered to vote and turning them out.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
36. Yes, and apparently, according to DUers who have attended some of the events,
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 12:49 PM
Aug 2015

campaign workers are handing out voter registration forms with info on their states primary rules.

procon

(15,805 posts)
42. This is a misleading comparison.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 01:43 PM
Aug 2015

Remember, the GOP circus sponsored two separate debates. The first was the kiddie table and that show was not open to the public, but only friends and family of candidates, staff and the press corps were allowed to attend. A lot of media commenters wrote this empty stadium story as if it applied to the main event.

The second show was the prime time debate featuring their Fox-picked frontrunners and the audience was seated to fill the stadium. But here's the takeaway to keep in mind, regardless of how many thousands of people were sitting in that audience, another 24 MILLION viewers were watching the Republicans -- not the Dems -- spout their propaganda on TV.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
46. And out in the RW Bernie continues to beat all Republican front runners
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 03:08 PM
Aug 2015

not just in polls, but in crowds that don't just sit in front of their Teevees but show up in person to hear him speak.

One very embarrassing statistic for Faux and its supposed influence, Bernie drew 4 TIMES the number of people to the exact same stadium where Rubia made his announcement to run.

So I guess all those millions of viewers are not getting off their couches to actually do anything to try to BEAT BERNIE SANDERS who is burying them EVEN IN RED STATES.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
45. He's one of a very few that can excite the electorate
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 02:48 PM
Aug 2015

Sanders can challenge the nation to do better for those who've been left behind. It seems pretty clear to me that if we want that, we need to pick the person who shows the ability to excite the electorate into voting for it.

We need a fairly broad mandate, not just something that's mostly a grudging "lesser of two evils" that carries the day.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
47. I so want to see a debate with Bernie in one corner...
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 10:58 PM
Aug 2015

We know, however, that it will probably be heavily controlled.

grrrrr.

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