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Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Unveils Sweeping Policy Platform To Combat Racial Inequality
WASHINGTON -- A day after being interrupted by Black Lives Matters protesters at a campaign event in Seattle, Washington, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) released a detailed platform on combating racial inequality.
Sanders' campaign posted the platform on his website on Sunday, and he addressed the issue of racial justice that evening in front of 20,000 supporters in Portland, drawing his largest crowd yet along the campaign trail. Nearly 12,000 people attended Saturdays event in Seattle.
The platform delineates policy proposals pertaining to what Sanders calls the four central types of violence waged against black and brown Americans: physical, political, legal and economic.
Sanders proposes a series of police reforms, including the demilitarization of police forces, a federal program giving police body cameras, and increasing police transparency and accountability. He also calls for an end to mandatory minimum sentences for non-violent offenses and bemoans the disproportionate rate at which blacks are targeted by police.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-racial-inequality_55c81153e4b0f1cbf1e56b77?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013§ion=politics
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Uncle Joe
(58,386 posts)Thanks for the thread, Fearless.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)he didn't just come up with a detailed platform overnight.
I'm glad to see it, and have to say that it was well received tonight.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)That was a month ago.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I know that some are claiming it went up Sunday morning in response to the blm action on Saturday.
I think it's more likely a response from the NN action.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)The section specific to racial justice went up yesterday. I suspect it was after the announcement of his new press person (I'm not sure of Ms. Sanders title) at the Seattle event.
The issues were addressed at the SCLC speech which a transcript was on his site on July 25. I suspect they have been working on the racial justice page since then.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I read yesterday somewhere, in an interview with Symone Sanders, that Bernie reached out to her after NN, she gave him advice, which he took, and then he hired her. I'm betting they've been working on that racial justice segment for awhile, and rolling them out together makes sense.
She's really sharp. I'm just not sure what to call her, lol. Symone? It will get confusing calling her Sanders, and some of us with lazy fingers and carpal tunnel syndrome may not want to type her whole name out every time.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)I was all DAYUM!
She is a powerful speaker and I'm looking forward to seeing how she handles a press conference. (He said like that will happen soon, LOL)
If you run across the interview, I'd love to see it.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I can't remember the source of yesterday's:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/bernie-sanders-campaign-adds-young-black-woman-as-new-public#.kf3bDGnezL
Cal33
(7,018 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)always talk about all that he has tried to do but the more people are getting to know him, the more they are finding out about his amazing and thoroughly consistent record.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)the spark to develop the plan ... or, at least, the recognition of a pressing need to communicate a plan ... came shortly after NRN.
That said ... it is a welcomed development.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I think the action at NRN was effective, and helpful all around.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)you will find yourself out of the favor of DU ... BLM is evil, evil, evil!
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Last edited Mon Aug 10, 2015, 03:05 PM - Edit history (1)
I don't have to agree with, or like, every member or every action, to know that standing up to stop the abuse of and murder of black Americans is needed NOW.
I'm pleased to see the Sanders campaign's response to the action at NRN. I think Sanders has always been an obvious supporter of social justice, including racial justice, but moving him to step it up can only be good.
I really like his new press secretary, and think she's been, and will be continue to be, great for his campaign.
I'm going to vote for Sanders in my primary, as will many of my fellow Oregonians, and I'll campaign for him straight through to the convention.
Regardless of who gets the D nomination OR the WH in '16, though, the issues aren't going away, and we will still need to be active in achieving our goals.
I support all of BLM's demands, and will continue to do so. There is no local chapter in my area, although a couple of churches marched back in December. I didn't hear about that march until after the fact, or I would have been there. Meanwhile, I've been checking out some of the campaigns at ColorOfChange and trying to support from a distance.
I agree with what Sanders keeps saying, and not just because he's saying it: we need to stand together, we need to be united, when it comes to effecting needed change. I'm not the enemy, and I'm here to be an ally. Just as I understand the frustration and anger behind the BLM movement, I also understand the reactions that some Sander's supporters have had. To be honest, I had some of the same immediate reactions. Then I took a deep breath, had a cup of tea, thought a bit, and dove back in to listen. We are all on our own journeys, learning and growing. It's okay that I'm 55 and not done yet. I hope I won't be done when I take my last breath.
azmom
(5,208 posts)Uniting all the different movements.
Imagine Occupy, Dreamers, fight for $15, BLM, friends of the earth, and others all uniting and supporting one another. We could accomplish so much.
Bernie is showing us the way, we just need to trust each other and come together.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)We've had some conflict but I wanna snark along with you.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I'm BADDDD company ... Doing anything with me (except arguing) puts you at associational risk!
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)And gotten IRL beat to hell over it. I can handle it
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Watch all the way through -- and remember this was a time when it was popular to be "tough on crime" and ignore the disproportional persecution of blacks.
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1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Perhaps we should distinguish between an "idea" and a "plan".
Armstead
(47,803 posts)...that whether or not Sanders has been efficient in the political ritual of creating detail 26 point plans and issue papers to accompany his still-formative campaign, nobody had to point out to him the importance of these issues.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)apparently, it was necessary for people to point out that it is important enough to us/them that a plan be developed.
Why do you pretend that Bernie is a novice to campaigning? He is not. And, in that context, the "efficiency in the political ritual" goes directly to leadership or priorities, or both.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)There is a learning curve and an awareness curve.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)....and to learn frmo them....oh wait....
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)she learned that attacking Obama over Jeremiah Wright was good politics
In an interview with the editorial board of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review on March 25, 2008, Hillary Clinton commented on Obama's attendance at Trinity United Church of Christ, stating, "You don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend." Later the same day, during a press conference, Clinton spoke on her personal preference in a pastor: "I think given all we have heard and seen, [Wright] would not have been my pastor."
Perhaps looking to the campaign of the "experienced" Hillary or anyone else would not be the place to learn.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)he's seen enough campaigns to know what tactics he wants to employ and what he doesn't what he thinks works and what doesn't. He's held enough stomp meetings to get a feel for what is going on specifically in this election cycle.
You can deflect to what Hillary is doing if you wish....i just don't inderstand the purpose except to cover up an inane statment that is less than fact filled.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)I just drew on Hillary's vast experience. It is not an "inane statement" to suggest that he is a novice at running for President. An actual "inane statement" would be to suggest otherwise.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)that he did not care about these issue before it was so politely "pointed out to him."
He's not a novice ...but presidential campaigns are a different ballgame. Sure he needed improvement in the organizing and message. But the reason he responded to pressure about this stuff is because it was already in his DNA.
It has always been important to Sanders, including those periods when social issues were being swept under the rug overall. It was not a very popular (or politically expedient) move to attack the War On Crime (including its racial aspects) as forcefully he did back in the early 1990's....(And this was long after his "irrelevant" involvement with the civil rights movement in the 60's.)
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)well, perhaps, not enough to develop a plan.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Why the hell can't you just acknowledge that for decades -- including the periods when criminal injustice and racial issues were being swept under the rug -- Sanders has cared about this stuff? That video is one example. That's not some lily livered apathetic apologist for racism.
I am willing to admit that he needed to refine his campaign messaging. But that's the case with other issues too, in terms of HOW he gets the message out. That's campaign building. And he got a lot of visibility quick, and is still pulling the pieces together.
But it is a flat out LIE that he has not been engaged as a fighter for these issues all his adult life.
And yes it pisses the hell out of me and others who know what Sanders has been doing for YEARS, that certain factions (some with a political agenda) are keeping this phony controversy alive both blatantly and with innuendo, instead of moving on to form an actual united front that might actually bring some positive change for everyone.
And P.S. I don't give a shit if some prefer Hillary or some other candidate. But making hay out of a lie is just bogus.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Oh yeah ...
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Yes, I get emotional about this.
But have been following Sanders for years. In addition to his economic message, my admiration has been because of his ongoing commitment to and clear championing of social justice issues.
I can at least accept the argument of those who say he is "too far left" or some such criticism on that basis. That's at least a position based on honest differences.
But not when bogus claims are made that are 180 degrees removed from reality.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)I've made my list including Bernie is finally doing something for minorities but only after being pushed to do so etc - ignoring the fact that he has been a strong supporter of the Black Caucus for decades.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)He was already talking about it before NRN.
July 17
Iowa Democratic Hall of Fame Dinner
Bernie said:
And like everbody in this room. I want to see an America where when young black men walk down the street, they will not be harrassed by police officers. They will not be killed. They will not be shot.
July 18
Netroot Nations event disrupted by BLM.
GitRDun
(1,846 posts)Well done Bernie...now get your outreach teams squared away, lol.
ismnotwasm
(41,998 posts)Figured Sanders would do something--he's not a man of inaction when he can take action.
romanic
(2,841 posts)But my fear is, this will still be "not enough" in the eyes of radicals and black separatists.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)Last edited Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:18 PM - Edit history (1)
had always been for racial equality for all. They never knew that as a young man he had
marched with Martin Luther King, that he had always been a Liberal. Then, of course, it's
also possible that Right Wing infiltrators might have been in there using the occasion to
stir up trouble against Bernie, just as I think there probably are some careful and very
subtle Right Wing infiltrators here at DU. RWs are well known for trying to put infiltrators
into all Democratic as well as every other political institutions.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Black Lives Matter group in Seattle never knew that Sanders had always been for racial equality for all. They never knew that as a young man he had marched with Martin Luther King, that he had always been a Liberal?
Isn't that a tad condescending?
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Question ... do you really give a damn about what someone did yesterday (let along 50+ years ago) then the stuff you are talking about is happening today?
Cal33
(7,018 posts)are periods where he has been talking about other problems and leaving off racial equality
because he has so much ground to cover as far as what's wrong with our nation is concerned.
If you just look at his whole background, you'll know what kind of a person he is. Just give
him some time, he'll be on this topic again.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Iowa Democratic Hall of Fame Dinner
Bernie said:
And like everbody in this room. I want to see an America where when young black men walk down the street, they will not be harrassed by police officers. They will not be killed. They will not be shot.
July 18
Netroot Nations event disrupted by BLM.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)has always been consistent. I have also said that he had a big agenda, a lot of ground to cover, implying
that he had to spend a lot of time talking about other problems too.
LeftOfWest
(482 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)of a pass. His omission of SJ issues was glaring. Cannot wait to see a page on Women's rights too.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)FINALLY! Nice bullet points, how does he plan on doing those things mentioned on his site that aren't already being done?
nxylas
(6,440 posts)They must be heavy.
dotymed
(5,610 posts)platform information. Black people have been especially targeted by "our" militarized police.
What really bothers me is that Bernie Sanders has the best record of any candidate (of any color) in working for civil rights and justice for ALL.
I really believe that the major disruptions of Sanders speeches by people claiming to be (probably are) members of black lives matters, have been given incentives to disrupt Bernie's speeches. This is my opinion. Why else would a great man whose record speaks for itself be targeted when obviously bigoted and racist republicans have been left alone?
This is the beginning (IMO) to paint America's best (last?) chance of an actual presidential candidate whose goal is to represent the vast majority of Americans. Actually work for us all. "They" want to portray him in any bad manner possible and they are willing to use any and all means possible. Still operating on the previously proven theory that most Americans will believe whatever the MSM tells them, they have begun. They fear that if enough Americans actually listen and check his voting record, he will become our next POTUS and IMO if Americans have any damned sense that will happen.
Get ready. This is just a mild opening salvo by TPTB to find any way possible to discredit this American treasure. Bernie wants to work for and represent us. the average and poor people of America. The wealthy, greedy, uninformed and power hungry will do anything to prevent all Americans being treated fairly and brought up to 1st world status. It is sad but very true. If Bernie loses so do we.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)and understand their message?
Armstead
(47,803 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)And well done Bernie, at least on its surface as I haven't read his proposals yet.
More well done's from me may ensue afterwards.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)But this IS a welcomed development.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)His message is one that needs to be heard - and included in the democratic party platform.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)for him to come up with a plan. (not really sarcasm. more facetious. )
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)since Net Roots Nation.
https://twitter.com/deray/with_replies
https://twitter.com/Nettaaaaaaaa
https://twitter.com/MsPackyetti
https://twitter.com/samswey
I sincerely doubt that "he pulled an all-nighter".
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)I guess I expected Sanders campaign to be more rough-hewn but it is progressing along in an extraordinary fashion. He's sweeping along whole swathes of the country, and his message is only just starting to penetrate into peoples consciousness.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)stone space
(6,498 posts)Just as any positive step by Hillary in this area is good for Black Bernie supporters.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)change.