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Related: About this forumKamala Harris endorses Hillary Clinton for president
Kamala Harris
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I'm excited to stand with Hillary Clinton. She has fought for decades to create opportunities for California families. I have a deep admiration for her, and I know that she will be a phenomenal president. Will you join me in helping elect Hillary as our country's first woman president? https://www.hillaryclinton.com/signup/
Kamala Harris's photo.
https://www.facebook.com/KamalaHarris?fref=ts
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)A Wall Street/Davos future, rather than an Occupy/Porto Alegre future.
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)SunSeeker
(51,665 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,000 posts)K&R
George II
(67,782 posts)Tikki
(14,559 posts)And I, a Californian, endorse Kamala Harris for the United States Senate.
Tikki
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Cha
(297,575 posts)Tikki
(14,559 posts)Kamala Harris is a dynamic California Attorney General. She will make a great U. S. Senator.
Tikki
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)There's no way to use a trade deal or a U.S. military intervention for anything anti-racist.
LuvLoogie
(7,025 posts)Huh?!
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)eom
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)Makes one wonder....
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)She's in the pocket of the Koch brothers and Wall Street, like the other 85% of Democrats who dare to exercise their democratic rights independent of the control of a small group who believes they are the only Americans who count. Like, she might actually care about qualifications and competence. How dare she?
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)I truly didn't have any particular intention.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Last edited Fri Aug 7, 2015, 01:52 AM - Edit history (1)
In California politics, Kamala has always stood with the suites instead of the streets. She's conventionally competent(I'd vote for her against any GOP'er)but never transformative.
She represents diversity-in-name-only. A female centrist of color is just like a white male centrist.
As senator or president, we'd never know she had any real connection to any community that faced oppression. None of that heritage survives in her, given her record in office so far.
It would only matter to have a female PoC in office if she had the spirit of Barbara Lee or Shirley Chisholm.
Number23
(24,544 posts)"Diversity in name only"
"just like a white male centrist"
"she has no connection to any community that faced oppression"
This post is so stupid and so offensive it's hard to even articulate how disgusted I am after having read it.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Like every POC has to be out in the "streets" stepping over crack addicts in a sketchy neighborhood, to be authentic or something...heaven forfend you be black or brown, or even a lighter shade of tan, and come from .... (dire musical bridge)......THE SUBURBS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here, Fido...tweet tweet!
Number23
(24,544 posts)a black O'malley supporter. That shit was hidden too.
Now this individual is acting like Kamala Harris has no support from minority communities, doesn't represent women of color, and has no interest in oppressed communities. That and she's not "real" aka from "the streets."
If this person's fellow Bernie supporters condemned this kind of racist idiocy instead of pretending that everyone who dislikes their tactics are "Hillary supporters who were never going to support Bernie anyway," there might be alot less of this ignorant, racist shit for the rest of us to have to wade through.
Abso fucking lutely unreal.
MADem
(135,425 posts)suddenly found their way to obscure little DU in this tiny corner of the net to declare their support for this guy....yet none of 'em can find their way to a rally! It's like playing Where's Waldo!
Otay? Really? Jesus, it's getting ugly.
Number23
(24,544 posts)You are soooo bad!! You nail it like few here ever could. I still remember you talking about Cornell was just mad that Obama didn't give him the key to the Lincoln bedroom and tell him to come by whenever. Like they were going to leave the porch light on for him!
Yes, many MANY people -- white, black and everything in between -- have noted the same thing you have. And the fact that so many of these minority supporters for Sanders seem to be almost as angry at and patronizing to black folks as so many of the white Sanders supporters just makes all of this "support" even more fascinating.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)eom
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)She would never have considered endorsing anyone else.
Kamala is blandly ok...but nothing in her record in office would ever tell you she's from the Bay Area. Never any realy mooments of standing up for the underdog or the powerless.
She's ok...but she will never be transformational.
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)And nothing in the Wikipedia link refutes what I said. Never denied that she's achieved stuff...just pointed out that her record is utterly bland-centrist and conventional.
What's the point of having diversity if it's just bland establishment-insider diversity? If your background is different but your views aren't?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Attorney General Harris is the type of Democrat who runs well and serves well in this state; a pragmatic left of center Democrat. This is a huge , diverse state with lots of challenges. It is easier to navigate them if you're not ideologically rigid.
LuvLoogie
(7,025 posts)It must be name recognition.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)She's storied alright!
Cha
(297,575 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,138 posts)They are both very political animals.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)My, my...isn't this interesting.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)to accommodate everyone you're throwing under.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Ms. Harris does not speak for women of color as a community here-a community insiders can't be capable of struggling for.
It's not as if HRC cares about women of color. If she did, she'd publicly denounce Bill's signing of the welfare persecution bill as what it was-the deliberate demonization of women of color, especially women of color who dared to reproduce.
If you're an insider who keeps your distance from activists and movement politics, you can't fight for the people. Establishment insiders never do.
Number23
(24,544 posts)What is wrong with you?
JI7
(89,262 posts)so fucking condescending and such a turnoff.
the fact is Kamala HArris DOES speak for a majority of people of color and women in california. elizabeth warren has already endorsed her also. i wonder if the poster has a problem with that.
Number23
(24,544 posts)color who dared to endorse Hillary Clinton he is unleashing some incredibly racially charged and idiotic language.
And I bet you everything in my pocket, he would swear to the death that his little temper tantrum makes his obvious candidate of choice, Bernie Sanders, look marvelous in the process when absolutely nothing could be further from the truth.
I've noticed that a number of Sanders supporters here keep doing the "gee winkies, if a person's supporters turn you off of a candidate then you were NEVER GOING TO SUPPORT HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE." But this post is exactly the kind of idiocy that turns EVERYBODY with a brain off, no matter who you're supporting. And sure as shit makes you wonder how any worthy candidate could attract such revolting supporters.
JI7
(89,262 posts)one can not agree or even dislike it and that would be fine. but he is attacking Harris herself and making as you say revolting and offensive comments about Harris and the relationship with the minority community .
and she DOES have a liberal record. in her first statewide run for attorney general she had the entire law enforcement opposing her and still won as many minorities saw that as a positive .
Cha
(297,575 posts)but, it doesn't seem to me like he's doing BS any favors.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)because they become an Establishment insider the moment they're elected.
I'm a democratic socialist. My first inclination is to want to vote for Bernie. I'm having strong doubts now because of posts like these, that are tone-deaf toward the strongest and most liberal supporters of the democratic party.
Cha
(297,575 posts)Democratic leaders because they are endorsing Hillary.
Would I tear down Ben and Jerry and whomever else is supporting Bernie.. uh no. It's makes no ******* sense.
John Lewis Supports Hillary, too.. let's see them try that on him..
Mark KnollerVerified account
?@markknoller Pres Obama listens to @repjohnlewis as part of WH webcast marking 50th anniversary of LBJ signing Voting Rights Act.
http://theobamadiary.com/2015/08/06/president-obama-commemorates-the-50th-anniversary-of-the-voting-rights-act/
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)I like the competition amongst them because they are all tightening their game. They will all present strong plans to improve the lives of the large majority. It could be very exciting times if our economy comes roaring back. All three candidates could be a great President if they get a strong Congress.
The nihilism and 'my way or the highway' attitudes too often expressed here, I don't like one bit. I find a lot of it personally insulting toward some of the most thoughtful, intelligent and strongest supporters of progressive positive change in our country - both historically and in the present and future. Mahalo my friend.
brer cat
(24,598 posts)Very well stated, lovemydog.
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(14 posts)It all ends in the convention. Endorsements from politicians just signal "More of the Same" - when Bernie Sanders is ready to beat Clinton on October 13th with honesty and show the audience it was intended for that Sanders resonates with ALL people, not just one party. Like he may change the minds of the impressionable young minds at Liberty University.
quickesst
(6,281 posts)... throwing them under the bus. They are kicking them under the bus with a viciousness never seen before on Democratic Underground. It's getting pretty pathetic and disgusting.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)and there will be no one left when they are done.
quickesst
(6,281 posts)Longer maybe
Cha
(297,575 posts)Mahalo for the great news, BB.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I was hoping she'd go for Gov., but I'm happy she's moving on up.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)to be able to do that.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I was remarking on being happy about voting for Kamala Harris, a great progressive. I voted for her for AG too, where she has championed issues like the foreclosure crisis, which fell disproportionally on people of color in CA. Do you have a politician in Alaska that you vote for that is a champion for progressivism like that?
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)EMILY'S LIST, endorses Kamala Harris.
Yes, and Hillary Clinton
Truprogressive85
(900 posts)Her sister Maya Harris works for Hillary Clinton's campaign so no shocker
http://www.essence.com/2015/04/17/hillary-clinton-hires-kamala-harris-sister-top-policy-adviser
JI7
(89,262 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)At one point, he wanted us to put Sam Nunn on the ticket(as in the Sam Nunn who didn't disagree with the GOP on any major issue other than choice).
dsc
(52,166 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)he said it on live television. Links didn't exist in that era. But he did say it and I wouldn't be stupid enough to make it up.
dsc
(52,166 posts)frankly what Lewis said 31 or 27 years ago and with no link to provide context seems kind of thin
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)I know better than to make things like that up.
dsc
(52,166 posts)was he asked who should be Vice President and say Sam Nunn and only Sam Nunn? Was he asked who should be VP and say a list of names one of which was Sam Nunn? Was he asked would Sam Nunn make a good VP and give an estatic yes? Was he asked would Sam Nunn make a good VP and give a semi positive to positive answer? All of those are different things. I wrote them from most egregious to a nothing burger. Remember if you are referring to 88 we wound up with Lloyd Bentsen who certainly wasn't anyone's idea of a liberal.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Nunn's presence on the ticket would have made no difference at all and a Nunn presidency(had it ever happened)would have been nothing but Reaganomics-with-abortion rights.
dsc
(52,166 posts)Look I'm no fan of Nunn but in 1988 he was, like it or not, within our party on more than a few issues. I am certainly not going to throw a Civil Rights icon under the bus for thinking in 1988 that Nunn would make a good VP.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Just rejecting the idea, prevalent at the time that we could only win if we we not only put a white Southern right-winger on the ticket, but essentially gave that guy a veto over policy.
dsc
(52,166 posts)and a southerner. Also you are surely changing what you said Lewis said and frankly I literally can't imagine he said, that nunn should have a veto over policy. For that I would demand a link flat out. He might well have said Nunn would make a good VP, being from GA and all but I just don't believe he said Nunn or any VP should have a veto over policy.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)I'm saying that was part of the deal about getting a white Southern senator on the ticket(that, whatever Lewis said or not, such a person would implicitly have a veto). Of course Bentsen was a right-winger. Nunn was a right-winger, too(the sole non-right wing position Nunn held was support of reproductive choice) and one of the big reasons the DLC was formed was to try to force the party to choose an essentially right-wing nominee from the South. They got more of what they wanted(though Bill wasn't as right-wing as Bentsen)than you are probably comfortable remembering.
Cha
(297,575 posts)Mark KnollerVerified account
?@markknoller Pres Obama listens to @repjohnlewis as part of WH webcast marking 50th anniversary of LBJ signing Voting Rights Act.
http://theobamadiary.com/2015/08/06/president-obama-commemorates-the-50th-anniversary-of-the-voting-rights-act/
Cha
(297,575 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Just that he is the most progressive and most principled candidate.
It's ironic that someone with an Obama icon is attacking people for feeling actual enthusiasm about their candidate...as the HRC hard-liners did in '08 with their "messiah" slur against Obama himself.
Cha
(297,575 posts)Hillary.
JI7
(89,262 posts)Kamala Harris is very popular among minorities and someone many of us are paying attention and looking forward to supporting in the future for president.
elizabeth warren has endorsed her also .
Truprogressive85
(900 posts)sorry I'm African American and rather someone else as our nominee (just my opinion)
Sorry I dont ride the Clinton wagon
JI7
(89,262 posts)that doesn't mean every single one likes her. but to dismiss her as just doing something because her sister works for clinton is just bs.
you can find some hispanics that are supporting donald trump also .
Truprogressive85
(900 posts)Who said she wasn't popular among minorities ?
I just stated her sister(Maya) works for Mrs. Clinton Campaign (facts) She throwing her support to the establishment candidate nothing wrong with that
relax ok its not that serious
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)And I hope she can fill Barbara Boxer's shoes. I really have no interest in who she's endorsing however. She's not a senator yet and has no record I can look at to determine whether I would support her on national issues.
JI7
(89,262 posts)elizabeth warren endorsed her some time ago also.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I apparently live under a large rock because I've never heard of her before this post.
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BainsBane
(53,056 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I don't live in California, and maybe that's why I've never heard of her.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)A chance to make history
Kamala Harris is a trailblazer who has already made history as the first African American, the first South Asian, and the first woman to serve as attorney general in the State of California. This year, we can help her make history all over again as the second African-American woman ever to be elected to the U.S. Senate and the first to be elected in almost two decades. As Senator, shell continue fighting on behalf of hardworking California families facing the tough odds of stagnant wages and diminishing opportunity.
A fighter who defends the middle class
Kamala is the daughter of an Indian mother and Jamaican father who met in graduate school, fighting for civil rights and equal opportunity for all. Following in her parents footstepsand inspired by lawyers like Thurgood Marshall and Constance Baker MotleyKamala went to law school at the University of California, Hastings College of the Law. After graduation, she became a prosecutor, standing up for hardworking California women, families, and veterans. Today, as Californias top cop, her job is to protect some of her states most vulnerable citizensand she has, winning record felony convictions for the people of California, motivated by her belief that a crime against any one of us is a crime against all of us. As attorney general, shes shown shes not afraid to stand up to Wall Street, winning back $20 billion for California homeowners after the housing market crash and protecting hardworking middle-class families by writing a first-of-its-kind Homeowner Bill of Rights that instituted some of the toughest foreclosure reforms in the country.
A progressive champion, who needs our support
In 2003, when she ran for San Francisco District Attorney, Kamala was up against a tough two-term incumbent. Early polling had her at just six percent. But with a lot of determination, and with some help from her EMILYs List sisters, she won that raceand she kept on winning, becoming Californias first woman attorney general in 2010. This year, she has another history-making fight to winand she needs all the support she can get. She has a tough primary ahead of her and will have to battle her way through Californias notorious jungle primary system. Shell be carrying on the legacy of Barbara Boxer, who spent her more than three decades in Congress standing up for the middle -class and fighting for a fair shot for hardworking American families. In a state where running a weeks worth of television ads statewide can run upwards of $4 million, Kamala will need resources to get the message out about how the issues shes spent her life fighting forfrom protecting middle-class Californians from predatory lenders, to ensuring equal rights for all Americansare more critical now than ever.
Help Elect Kamala
http://www.emilyslist.org/candidates/kamala-harris
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)a set of standards or a proven track record. They endorse candidates to win.
With the recent endorsement of Pa. Kate McGinty, for instance, she now brings enough Dem Women to upset the SENATE balance & lean it in Dem favor. McGinty will have to beat Sestak in the Primary then take on Toomey in the GE.
These are the level of candidates Emily's List suppports.
Its worth a snoop around their site to see who else is on their list. It's interesting.