2016 Postmortem
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What Bernie Sanderss rise means for American politics
By E.J. Dionne Jr.
The exhaustive and exhausting analysis of the Fox News debate promises to produce days more of Trump-mania. Its thus an excellent time to ponder the other big surprise of the 2016 campaign: the Democrats extended Weekend at Bernies.
No one is more amazed about the buoyancy of his presidential candidacy than Bernie Sanders himself, which only adds to its charm. The Vermont independent and proud democratic socialist got into the race mainly to remind the country what a progressive agenda actually looks like. You cant keep calling President Obama a socialist once you are confronted with the real thing.
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Is Sanderss ascent about Clintons problems? The evidence is mixed. In the WMUR poll, 73 percent of New Hampshire Democrats had a favorable view of Clinton; Sanderss favorability was at 69?percent. A fair share of Bernies people like Hillary, too. But when asked about specific personal qualities, the polls respondents presented Clinton with a to-do list. Clinton was far ahead of Sanders as a strong leader, as having the best chance of winning in November and as having the right experience to be president. But Sanders led as the most likable and most progressive. And when asked who was the least honest, 31 percent picked Clinton; only 3 percent picked Sanders. Washington punditry exaggerates Clintons problems, but her campaign should not underestimate them.
The ideological claims are more complicated. Its true that Democrats and not only Democrats are far more aggressive in their opposition to economic inequality than they were, say, in the 1990s. But thats because the problems of inequality, blocked mobility and wage stagnation are now more severe. And anybody who doubts that the super rich have gained even more power in the political system isnt following the super PAC news. Sanders is marshaling these discontents.
On the other hand, Democrats have not changed nearly as much ideologically as conservatives claim. In 2008, according to numbers the Pew Research Center ran at my request, 34 percent of Democrats called themselves liberal, 37?percent called themselves moderate, and 24 percent called themselves conservative. In 2015, 41 percent were liberal, 35 percent were moderate, and 21?percent were conservative. Is there an uptick in Democratic liberalism? Yes. Has the party shifted sharply leftward? No.
As for alienation from the system, Trump and Sanders do speak to a disaffection that currently roils most of the worlds democracies. But their way of doing it is so radically different Sanders resolutely programmatic, Trump all about feelings, affect and showmanship that they cannot easily be subsumed as part of the same phenomenon. Sanderss candidacy will leave behind policy markers and arguments about the future. Trumps legacy will be almost entirely about himself, which is probably fine with him.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/weekend-at-bernies/2015/08/05/64c67582-3ba6-11e5-9c2d-ed991d848c48_story.html
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Democrats who favor socialism are not necessarily more "left leaning" than those who identify themselves as liberals. A lot of this left vs. right stuff hinges on particular social issues, what Ralph Nader called "gonadal issues." Liberals sometimes look askance at socialists for not paying enough attention to LGBT, abortion, feminism, animal rights, pornography, etc. Socialists believe these issues can be too much of a distraction from economic justice, which should be the primary focus. Democratic socialists are often liberals, but tend to line up more as progressives, less concerned with supporting the entire slate of liberal issues, and more concerned about economics, income inequality, quality of life, etc. This gives us a clue as to why Sanders is not tough enough on gun control, according to many liberals.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)No, both very necessary. But both influence each other. Trying to solve one before dealing with the other would be like trying to pump out your basement before shutting off the water.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)We can have both. Bernie was a democratic socialist that has had an adamant record on LGBT issues, abortion rights, femininism, etc. He didn't have to evolve.
Most socialists I know are similarly minded.
We can have both.