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restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 09:53 AM Aug 2015

first dem debate not expected until SEP or OCT....is this acceptable?

from the Washington Times

The Democrats’ first debate this year isn’t expected until sometime in September or October, robbing Mrs. Clinton’s rivals of an early chance to go toe-to-toe with her and get some national TV exposure.
.......
"The DNC is in a pickle: Either give Sanders and O'Malley a fair shot or admit the fix is in,” said political strategist Doug Heye, a former communications director for the Republican National Committee.
.......
As the front-runner, Mrs. Clinton has the most to lose in a debate. Her campaign already is showing signs of losing momentum as she is forced to stay on the defensive and fend off questions about her email scandal at the State Department and foreign donations to the Clinton Foundation.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/5/debbie-wasserman-schultz-has-democrats-wait-to-deb/?page=1

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first dem debate not expected until SEP or OCT....is this acceptable? (Original Post) restorefreedom Aug 2015 OP
Washington Times? FSogol Aug 2015 #1
i quoted them restorefreedom Aug 2015 #3
If O'Malley, Sanders, Webb, or Chafee critisize the debate scheduling, they are doing it to FSogol Aug 2015 #7
The first vote being cast is still 7 months from today...The Moonie Times mention that? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #9
Because postponing them gives an unfair advantage Armstead Aug 2015 #18
News is news but there's a lot of editorializing in that news DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #12
Your second cut says it all. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #2
My problem with this is that all candidates agreed to 6 debates yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #14
Maybe they expected the first to be a wee bit earlier than October? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #15
Great point. yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #16
No, the DNC and the Hillary campaign agreed to six debates Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #25
Not when they were originally asked yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #26
Do you have a link? Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #29
What is the fucking rush? liberal N proud Aug 2015 #4
Republicans should not be used as our homing beacon. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #5
The right wing of both parties is the same, win at all costs, ethics be damned. GoneFishin Aug 2015 #6
What? The DNC-circus starts only 14-15 months ahead of the election? DetlefK Aug 2015 #8
Canada's election is 10 weeks away and the first of three debates, coincidentally, is tonight. No one is complaining. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #10
Since the candidates have altready kicked off the campsign, it's underay, like it or not Armstead Aug 2015 #19
The Moonie Times leftynyc Aug 2015 #11
Agreed. n/t FSogol Aug 2015 #13
Yes (nt) bigwillq Aug 2015 #17
yes zappaman Aug 2015 #20
fine. when dws announces it restorefreedom Aug 2015 #27
Yes. But also, the Washington Times sucks. (nt) apnu Aug 2015 #21
There is no fix and Sanders and Omalley have plenty to opportunities to get their message across. DCBob Aug 2015 #22
Yes. Orangepeel Aug 2015 #23
televised debates won't educate the uneducated olddots Aug 2015 #24
it will be october. restorefreedom Aug 2015 #28

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
3. i quoted them
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 09:59 AM
Aug 2015

because they were the first to put in print what we all know is true...dws putting off the first debate till the fall.

om is as pissed as anybody about this.

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
7. If O'Malley, Sanders, Webb, or Chafee critisize the debate scheduling, they are doing it to
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 10:36 AM
Aug 2015

increase their chances of winning the nomination.

When the Wash Times (a Unification Church RW propaganda organization that no longer even bothers to print their dreck) criticizes the debate schedule, they are doing it to harm the Democratic Party in general and HRC specifically. There is nothing to be gained by helping them spread anti-progressive shit.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. The first vote being cast is still 7 months from today...The Moonie Times mention that?
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 10:41 AM
Aug 2015

Are Democrats supposed to jump aboard the Clown Train schedule because.....reasons?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
18. Because postponing them gives an unfair advantage
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 12:04 PM
Aug 2015

As the undisputed front runner, Clinton can prevent the other contenders from getting the visibility that is needed to gain traction -- or even a foothold.

At least giving the others a chance for exposure and to introduce themselves is a fucking good reason to have debates sooner rather than later.

If Clinton holds her own and does lot better than the others, good for her. But stifling any real competition is not good. That just a Kubuki Dance.



DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. News is news but there's a lot of editorializing in that news
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 10:52 AM
Aug 2015

I rarely curse but fuck the Washington Times.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. Your second cut says it all.
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 09:56 AM
Aug 2015

Despite the snide dismissals, Debbie Wasserman Schulz is worried that debates will allow Bernie to seriously cut into Hillary's votes, and wants to do everything she can to minimize that.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
14. My problem with this is that all candidates agreed to 6 debates
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 11:47 AM
Aug 2015

And now want to change it. Why not change it back when asked if 6 were good enough a few months ago?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
15. Maybe they expected the first to be a wee bit earlier than October?
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 11:56 AM
Aug 2015

Getting to go onstage and hit their talking points in front of a much larger audience is a good way to boost enthusiasm, support, and monetary donations for the other candidates who don't have millions to burn on TV ads. So basically, they're strangled of that audience for several more months, which keeps the potential donations cut off, especially for those who might be more likely to get recurring monthly small donations, rather than large, one shot maximums.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
25. No, the DNC and the Hillary campaign agreed to six debates
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 01:10 PM
Aug 2015

Both the Bernie and O'Malley campaigns have made it clear that they want more than six debates.

liberal N proud

(60,335 posts)
4. What is the fucking rush?
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 10:03 AM
Aug 2015

Just because the clowns are putting on a circus a full year before they open the big top doesn't mean Democrats have to rush in.

Typical election cycle was to have candidate announce a little less than a year from election, campaign in Iowa and New Hampshire then after those contest there is usually a debate followed by subsequent primaries.
Once the primaries are over in May/June time, they head to the conventions and state fairs, would someone please hand Trump a corn dog.

Voters are going to be burned out by these candidates campaigning on Halloween (boo, it Dubya2), Thanksgiving and Christmas Eve.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. Republicans should not be used as our homing beacon.
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 10:09 AM
Aug 2015

"Her campaign already is showing signs of losing momentum"

As is someone else. That is the reason for this issue being so prominent right now. When is the first election? September is more than acceptable. What isn't is the fact that all candidates don't know dates, locations, and topics.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
6. The right wing of both parties is the same, win at all costs, ethics be damned.
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 10:12 AM
Aug 2015

This sleazy behavior confirms what I already knew about the corporatists. They will say anything and do anything to cling to power. It's about the power and money.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
10. Canada's election is 10 weeks away and the first of three debates, coincidentally, is tonight. No one is complaining.
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 10:43 AM
Aug 2015

Contrast, compare and weep for the state of American democracy and media.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
19. Since the candidates have altready kicked off the campsign, it's underay, like it or not
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 12:07 PM
Aug 2015

So, all of the should have the opportunity for exposure at this point.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
27. fine. when dws announces it
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 01:13 PM
Aug 2015

on the dnc website, will everyone feel better?

stifling debate to benefit one candidate is the issue.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
22. There is no fix and Sanders and Omalley have plenty to opportunities to get their message across.
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 12:27 PM
Aug 2015

If 6 debates is not enough then 20 wouldnt be either.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
24. televised debates won't educate the uneducated
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 12:39 PM
Aug 2015

Discusions about life changing issues don't have whats called TV. Q .

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