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BooScout

(10,406 posts)
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:04 PM Aug 2015

Handle this....

A woman who has been a United States Senator, the Secretary of State and a candidate for President of the United States and will, I believe will be elected President of the United States.....does not have or need 'handlers' to tell her what to say, what to think and what her opinion is on a subject.

FYI, women have their own minds and can think for themselves. We don't need handlers. Deal with it.

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Handle this.... (Original Post) BooScout Aug 2015 OP
She may not have 'handlers' canuck eh Aug 2015 #1
And elleng Aug 2015 #3
can we get some links? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #14
Um, no, not campaign staff. It's reported that she has 200 "economic advisors" alone.... Scuba Aug 2015 #16
Um, I'll need further proof than a suggestion from Howard Fineman. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #17
Yeah you can pretty much ignore that one. ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #19
That's why she should withdraw in favor of Warren. Hoppy Aug 2015 #20
I've seen this "critique" before ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #21
this apparently is the new way to become President.... BooScout Aug 2015 #23
Seems that way, huh? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #24
Indeed.... BooScout Aug 2015 #25
Like calling W a war hero and Kerry a traitor? AllFieldsRequired Aug 2015 #26
None of that is inherently wrong Armstead Aug 2015 #27
I agree ibegurpard Aug 2015 #2
Yes we can, and this woman doesn't think that one is the best person for the job. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #4
+1 bvf Aug 2015 #5
+ a million!! haikugal Aug 2015 #28
So her first act as president bvf Aug 2015 #6
Yes, I have my own mind and can think for myself. SamKnause Aug 2015 #7
When a celebrity, CEO, sports figure, or politician has handlers, they are to FSogol Aug 2015 #8
Wait... this is a pro-Hillary post?! fbc Aug 2015 #9
"They" should stop forcing Hillary to have handlers MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #10
Quick question.. how many of those Hillarys in your pride sig came before she was for gay marriage? fbc Aug 2015 #11
+1 beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #12
One of the best ops I have seen. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #13
Hillary Clinton has handlers. Deal with it, or don't. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #15
It looks as though your OP is misunderstood ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #18
What in gods name does being a woman have to do with having handlers at all? bobbobbins01 Aug 2015 #22
You would have to ask the person who started the meme...n/t BooScout Aug 2015 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2015 #30
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
21. I've seen this "critique" before ...
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 08:29 AM
Aug 2015

and I still cannot figure out how have 200+ advisors is a bad thing. I, actually, LIKE the idea that a politician has 200+ advisors, each an expert in their own corner of the intellectual universe ... but than, I also believe more information/ideas/research leads to better identification/recognition of issues and better solutions than relying on "my passionate and deeply held belief" of what the issue(s) and solution(s) is(are).

I've, also, heard the focus group critique and it being connected to "weather-vaning" policy positions ... and that has me puzzled as well: first, because it expresses a lack of understanding of focus grouping; and, relatedly and more importantly, I would think that in a representative style of government that we have, we would welcome the idea of someone that is to represent Mr. & Ms. We D. People, actually running his/her ideas regarding the issues they think we care about and their menu of solutions, past Mr. & Ms. We D. People.

What am I missing?

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
23. this apparently is the new way to become President....
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 11:02 AM
Aug 2015

Getting advice from experts in their field is wrong. Having focus groups to see what issues matter most to Americans and how they want those issues addressed is wrong. Having the ability to raise enough money to take on the GOP is wrong. Being organized is wrong. Having fellow Democrats that are familiar with you and have a pretty good idea of how well you perform at your job as a Senator and a Secretary of State and endorse you is wrong.

The right way is to not be a Democrat and have a revolution to overthrow the Democratic party.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
24. Seems that way, huh? ...
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 11:54 AM
Aug 2015

Sun Tzi (and Karl Rove) would be proud how "internet operatives" are arguing strengths are actually weaknesses/faults.

AllFieldsRequired

(489 posts)
26. Like calling W a war hero and Kerry a traitor?
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 01:18 PM
Aug 2015

I dont know why having 200 advisors is a bad thing and I do believe Hillary Clinton is one of the smartest, sharpest women on the planet.

I may not like her position or lack thereof on some stuff, but nobody needs to tell her how to think or what to think.

Now, she is a politician so finger in the wind is inevitable.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
27. None of that is inherently wrong
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 01:23 PM
Aug 2015

It's the whos and what is done with it that makes the difference.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
4. Yes we can, and this woman doesn't think that one is the best person for the job.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:09 PM
Aug 2015

I don't appreciate being told that it's her turn or that we'll flock to Hillary because of her gender, it's insulting and sexist as hell.

I had to fight for my seat in the old boy's club and so should she, you don't get extra points from me just for being a woman.

Deal with that.

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
8. When a celebrity, CEO, sports figure, or politician has handlers, they are to
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:16 PM
Aug 2015

handle the people the VIP might come in contact with. Not vice versa like you imply. Of course there are exceptions for extremely immature celebs or athletes and then the handler is just there to keep them out of trouble.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
9. Wait... this is a pro-Hillary post?!
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:20 PM
Aug 2015

You are right.

Hillary shouldn't need handlers to tell her what her positions are.

The problem is that she does.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
11. Quick question.. how many of those Hillarys in your pride sig came before she was for gay marriage?
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:28 PM
Aug 2015

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
12. +1
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:29 PM
Aug 2015

She was against it before she was for it.

"Women's rights are human rights" according to Hillary, but she believed that some women were more equal than others when she said that.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
15. Hillary Clinton has handlers. Deal with it, or don't.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:59 PM
Aug 2015

However, your opinion on the matter won't have the tendency to budge reality by even an inch. Gender? That has nothing to do with this.

ismnotwasm

(41,986 posts)
18. It looks as though your OP is misunderstood
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 10:18 PM
Aug 2015

Reading though, folks apparently actual believe Hillary has not fought her way through "The good 'ol boys club", cannot make decisions, had "handlers" who choreograph her every move.

For starters.

Yet some of these same folks hold her personally responsible for any number of political decisions and consequences.

I guess it depends on what makes her appear worse from day to day. No real continuity. Or, in some cases rationality.


Interesting

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
22. What in gods name does being a woman have to do with having handlers at all?
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 10:26 AM
Aug 2015

How does this become a gender issue?

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