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New Minnesota PPP Poll Hillary 50% Bernie 32% (Original Post) K lib Aug 2015 OP
who is the governor in Minnesota ? olddots Aug 2015 #1
Mark Dayton. nt. Thor_MN Aug 2015 #10
Holy smokes Batman! AllFieldsRequired Aug 2015 #2
We need to see more than one poll.. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #3
... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #4
And? White voters are crucial to winning the primary and the general ram2008 Aug 2015 #6
Every voter matters. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #7
But the district Bernie is strongest in is also our most diverse Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #12
The Minnesota Democratic party is much more homogeneous than the national party. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #13
Our state elected the first Muslim American to Congress and he is not white Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #15
I am not disputing that Senator Sanders is doing well in Minnesota. It should be his wheelhouse. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #16
Clearly she lost all the white women ... JoePhilly Aug 2015 #5
All three of them? RobertEarl Aug 2015 #9
All I know ... JoePhilly Aug 2015 #14
Personally? RobertEarl Aug 2015 #17
And this poll doesn't include Biden. HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #8
Sanders is the only candidate--Democrat or Republican--to have higher favorables than unfavorables femmedem Aug 2015 #11

AllFieldsRequired

(489 posts)
2. Holy smokes Batman!
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 04:53 PM
Aug 2015

Putting aside any issue of who I support or dont, this is amazing and unexpected and wild.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
3. We need to see more than one poll..
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 05:27 PM
Aug 2015

and until after a couple debates (which are not even scheduled yet) it is to early to get very excited about these polls.


Even so, Hillary dropping to 50% is significant.


It may be that her "mile wide and inch deep" support is beginning to dry up.



DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
4. ...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 05:34 PM
Aug 2015
On the Democratic side Hillary Clinton leads with 50% to 32% for Bernie Sanders, 4%
for Martin O'Malley, 3% for Lincoln Chafee, and 2% for Jim Webb. This is the most
support we've found for Sanders in any state so far this year. It's not surprising that would
come in Minnesota for him- he has tended to do much better with white voters than
African Americans or Hispanics, and the Democratic electorate in Minnesota is far whiter
than in the country as a whole.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
6. And? White voters are crucial to winning the primary and the general
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 05:46 PM
Aug 2015

No group should be discounted whites, blacks, latinos, other etc.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. Every voter matters.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 05:49 PM
Aug 2015

I was just echoing the empirical observation about the homogeneity of the Minnesota Democratic electorate that was made by the pollster:



...and the Democratic electorate in Minnesota is far whiter than in the country as a whole.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. The Minnesota Democratic party is much more homogeneous than the national party.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 06:06 PM
Aug 2015

The national Democratic party is over forty percent non white and that is going to have a large impact on polling when Senator Sanders is losing African Americans and Latinos by 10-1 to 25-1 margins.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
15. Our state elected the first Muslim American to Congress and he is not white
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 06:15 PM
Aug 2015

Bernie has tons of support in Minneapolis and as someone who has been involved in the Twin Cities campaign I can assure you that support is not coming entirely from white people.

Minnesota as a whole is very white but the Twin Cities are much more diverse than the state as a whole and Bernie is strongest in the Twin Cities.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
16. I am not disputing that Senator Sanders is doing well in Minnesota. It should be his wheelhouse.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 06:18 PM
Aug 2015

My point is the Minnesota Democratic party is not a proxy for the national Democratic party. It's substantially more homogeneous and significantly more liberal.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
9. All three of them?
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 05:55 PM
Aug 2015

Just kidding.

I actually believe there are more than three white women who would vote for Hillary. I hope she groks this trend and begins campaigning harder. Doing so can only help the Democrats come November 2016.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
14. All I know ...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 06:15 PM
Aug 2015

... is I know lots of white women ... women who have been pushed aside over and over in their careers ... they take many of the attacks on Hillary very personally.

I also think its fine for the Dems to watch the first few GOP debates ... see what these nuts will be saying, and yet give them nothing back to work with.

The GOP has lots of crazy to manage ... we should let them flounder around ... we have lots of time.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
17. Personally?
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 06:32 PM
Aug 2015

I know what you mean. I kinda take attacks on Bernie personally.

I am looking forward to harder campaigning from Hillary. It isn't like women I know to sit back and coast. She should be demanding the Party gets some Democratic debates on air ASAP.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
8. And this poll doesn't include Biden.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 05:53 PM
Aug 2015

So the break-up of Biden support is accounted for in this poll, and it looks like polls from ~10 days ago hold true...Biden support -did not- mostly go to Clinton, but was scattered around the field.

IMO SE MN and the Iron-Range are all historically progressive. The author blames this outcome on race, but, the Iron-Range long held out as a bastion of socialism, while SE MN was strong with anti-corporate Grangers who literally fought against the concept of "all the traffic-will-bear" railroad pricing policy for ag products in that last 'golden age'.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
11. Sanders is the only candidate--Democrat or Republican--to have higher favorables than unfavorables
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 06:00 PM
Aug 2015

unless I inadvertently missed something. Which I may have. I'm awfully tired.

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