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elleng

(130,974 posts)
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 01:30 PM Aug 2015

Hillary Clinton campaign weighs implications of potential Joe Biden challenge.

'The possibility of a Biden candidacy has brought renewed focus to one of Mrs. Clinton's challenges. For all the advantages she has in terms of Democratic support, donations and seasoned campaign staff, she struggles to connect with voters in an authentic way. "Joyless" was how one prominent Democratic official who supports Mrs. Clinton -- and would only criticize the campaign without attribution -- described her candidacy.'

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/04/us/politics/hillary-clinton-campaign-weighs-implications-of-potential-joe-biden-challenge.html?

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Hillary Clinton campaign weighs implications of potential Joe Biden challenge. (Original Post) elleng Aug 2015 OP
Biden will add more gravitas to the Democratic presidential field NYCButterfinger Aug 2015 #1
Yup, you can't manufacture empathy, charisma, enthusiasm or people skills tularetom Aug 2015 #2
And yet, she is CRUSHING it in the polls. Adrahil Aug 2015 #4
Name recognition tularetom Aug 2015 #5
She has very high positives among democrats.... Adrahil Aug 2015 #6
I think Nate Silver's analysis is spot on. Adrahil Aug 2015 #3
Unnamed sources and unexplained opinions. MineralMan Aug 2015 #7
 

NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
1. Biden will add more gravitas to the Democratic presidential field
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 02:21 PM
Aug 2015

Biden will speak about his working class roots from Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and his foreign policy experience. I would welcome Biden's addition to the ticket.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
2. Yup, you can't manufacture empathy, charisma, enthusiasm or people skills
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 02:21 PM
Aug 2015

Obama had them and so did Bill Clinton.

Ms Clinton plainly lacks all four, and its apparent to everybody.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
5. Name recognition
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 02:44 PM
Aug 2015

Time will tell whether or not my analysis is…. flawed. And there is a lot of time before the presidential election and she does not wear well. She may have bought the Democratic nomination but she will not win a general election.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
6. She has very high positives among democrats....
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 03:23 PM
Aug 2015

... historically high for a non-incumbent.

It is your opinion than she does not wear well. I actually have the opposite opinion. I think she's better once you hear more from her.

I do think your snark about "buying" the primaries is narrow. There are lots of reasons she is doing well. One big hurdle for Bernie is he's seeking the nomination of party that he views as not quite good enough. He refuses to embrace being a Democrat. For some of us who have worked hard to try and advance the Democratic party, that's a bit of a snub. He really needs to EMBRACE being a Democrat. Though I think it's too late for him to win very many party endorsements in the primaries.

AS to the generals... we shall see. A lot depends upon her opponent. I do believe the GOP has damaged it's brand, and I think HRC will know how to exploit that weakness.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
3. I think Nate Silver's analysis is spot on.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 02:34 PM
Aug 2015

He doesn't have the money, organization, or endorsements. He is not really a serious contender so long as Hillary is strong.

What he is, is an insurance policy. If Hillary gets into big trouble somehow over the next month, talking up Joe now positions him to step in if necessary.

I think that about sums it up. Other than that, he doesn't really offer much as an alternative to HRC.

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