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brooklynite

(94,604 posts)
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:08 AM Aug 2015

Hillary Wins The Only Standing Ovation From An Obama Crowd

BuzzFeed:

Clinton was undoubtedly the candidate folks at the annual convention had wanted to see most. She got the loudest welcoming applause, the most people clamoring for a brief audience with her, and the most widespread approval by members of the Urban League, who gave her speech the morning’s only standing ovation.

...snip...

“One of the things that really impressed me today about her presentation was her ability to really empathize with the plight of African Americans and to not mince the words and try to make it politically correct,” said Kevin E. Hooks, president and CEO of the Las Vegas Urban League. Hooks, a Clinton supporter since the early days, said her emotive comments about the injustice of racial profiling mark some of the most effective remarks he’s ever heard her make.

“I really think she’s coming into her own,” Hooks said. “She’s starting to hone her message and really understand how to communicate it to us in a way [black people] can receive it well. We’re at the point now where we can tell really who she is and that this is truly what she believes. It almost felt like she was really good at freestyling.”

...snip...

Attendees said she came off as being authentic and comfortable, characteristics that she doesn’t always exhibit on the campaign trail.


Anyone want to suggest that the audience doesn't really understand who they should be voting for?
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Hillary Wins The Only Standing Ovation From An Obama Crowd (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2015 OP
I read at Democratic Underground that big excited crowds are more important than polls. onehandle Aug 2015 #1
The National Urban League Renaissance Man Aug 2015 #3
Clearly you are the expert on this matter. onehandle Aug 2015 #4
They sure are impeccable. Renaissance Man Aug 2015 #6
I love it when snide posters get owned. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #14
He didn't "own" anybody.. actually got owned down thread. Cha Aug 2015 #22
To each his own. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #33
"owned" the 2 cents returned after registering his opinion. oasis Aug 2015 #26
If this was the Religion forum, I'd call that a "no true Scotsman" fallacy... brooklynite Aug 2015 #5
I disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #13
it would just be weird for people who attend such an event JI7 Aug 2015 #15
True ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #18
Everybody black I know is "meh" as hell about her Number23 Aug 2015 #20
He's dissing the intelligence of Black Voters.. "..Name Recognition.." Pffft. Cha Aug 2015 #21
That is the result; but, I suspect ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #25
It's foolish to discount one's personal experiences when he or she shares them with you. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #35
Purely as a point of curiosity, but you know this... how? Number23 Aug 2015 #19
The NUL is a pretty corrupt organization Report1212 Aug 2015 #23
I have worked along side of a local chapter of the NUL ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #27
I'm talking about at the national level Report1212 Aug 2015 #29
Well ... What "corruption" are you speaking of? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #32
At this rate some folks are going to need a bigger bus with everybody being run over. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #34
They are going to need an entire planet BainsBane Aug 2015 #36
Taking money from a corrupt organization and advocating for it? Report1212 Aug 2015 #38
Okay; but, that has not been my experience working along side NUL over the years ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #39
K & R Iliyah Aug 2015 #2
Would love to read the speech and have it pointed out that which garnered the standing ovation. Sheepshank Aug 2015 #7
It was at the end of the speech...so presumably the sum total of her comments. brooklynite Aug 2015 #9
The heavy media push to show Hillary as empathetic and natural is astounding. Avalux Aug 2015 #8
the big media isn't reporting this JI7 Aug 2015 #16
Yes I know. The stories like the one in the OP are an extension of her campaign. Avalux Aug 2015 #17
Really not with most Ny'ers even with the opposition she won over.... Historic NY Aug 2015 #30
Hillary Clinton gave a great speech to the Urban League Gothmog Aug 2015 #10
I saw that part, she should stab him with it every time she gets a chance, I"ll NEVER EVER forget 2k uponit7771 Aug 2015 #28
It is a good attack line against Jeb Gothmog Aug 2015 #31
From a reporter who was there (and who is pro-Hillary) askew Aug 2015 #11
I'm relying more and more on Buzzfeed FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #12
Tweets on Hillary's Speech @ NULC from an African American Admin @ The Obama Diary.. Cha Aug 2015 #24
'She's starting to understand how to communicate CanadaexPat Aug 2015 #37

Renaissance Man

(669 posts)
3. The National Urban League
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:27 AM
Aug 2015

The folks who attended the Urban League convention aren't representative of a large swath of black voters that have read Michelle Alexander's book, know about the "first Black President's" history and Hillary's support of what he did when he was in office, and aren't particularly fond of Bill or Hillary Clinton.

I have spoken to a great deal of friends of mine who are black professionals and the only reason Hillary is polling as well as she is with black voters is because of name recognition.

You will know them by their actions, not their words. I will not be voting for her in the primary.

Renaissance Man

(669 posts)
6. They sure are impeccable.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:35 AM
Aug 2015

I'm a black male, with a JD and an MBA. I didn't vote for Hillary in the 2008 primaries because of her race baiting shit show attacks in 2008 and her support in the 90's for her husband's claptrap policy which devastated black communities.

The fact that she enjoys ANY support among black voters is quit an enigma.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
14. I love it when snide posters get owned.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 12:29 PM
Aug 2015

Thanks for the smile.

You most certainly have the credentials to talk about this.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
33. To each his own.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:58 PM
Aug 2015

I happen to see TONS of PoC supporting Bernie, so I vehemently disagree with the person down-thread who seems to think he knows everything about this issue.

Don't y'all ever visit other forums? If you don't, you'd see that support, too.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
13. I disagree ...
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 12:21 PM
Aug 2015

the folks that attended the Urban League convention DO represent a large swath of Black voters ... particularly, politically/socially active Black voters.

I have spoken to a great deal of friends of mine who are black professionals and the only reason Hillary is polling as well as she is with black voters is because of name recognition.


Funny ... I, too, have spoken with Black professionals and NONE of them have indicated, as such. In fact, I recently attended an event of 50+ Black professionals, who are politically and socially active and there was not a peep about name recognition ... well, one person raised it, mockingly.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
15. it would just be weird for people who attend such an event
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 04:11 PM
Aug 2015

To not be that informed.

We aren't talking about random people at a movie ,sports game, or concert.


 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
18. True ...
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 04:40 PM
Aug 2015

Crazy ain't it? Politically active folks attending an advocacy group's national convention are uninformed?

Number23

(24,544 posts)
20. Everybody black I know is "meh" as hell about her
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 06:30 PM
Aug 2015

And I STILL want to know what that person was talking about. The idea that the Urban League doesn't represent black voters is fucking news to me.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
25. That is the result; but, I suspect ...
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 09:27 PM
Aug 2015

he was/is attempting to claim intellectual superiority over "them folks" ... As is, generally, the case when one holds, and know they hold, a minority opinion ... it's because you are smarter/more informed/more insightful than they are.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
35. It's foolish to discount one's personal experiences when he or she shares them with you.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 12:59 AM
Aug 2015

It's foolish to discount one's personal experiences when he or she shares them with you...It's also foolish to infer from one person's experience universal applications. I have told this story before. I had an African American business partner who hated Obama, loved the Tea Party and derided his relatives who lived in Section Eight housing. I never for one second believed he wasn't speaking for anybody but his bootstrap believing self.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
19. Purely as a point of curiosity, but you know this... how?
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 06:29 PM
Aug 2015
The folks who attended the Urban League convention aren't representative of a large swath of black voters that have read Michelle Alexander's book, know about the "first Black President's" history and Hillary's support of what he did when he was in office, and aren't particularly fond of Bill or Hillary Clinton.

Would it be the 85-90% support she receives from black people that lead you to say this, the huge numbers of poc at her events or the standing ovation she receives when she speaks at minority themed organizations?

Report1212

(661 posts)
23. The NUL is a pretty corrupt organization
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 09:08 PM
Aug 2015

Gets funding from WalMart, for profit colleges, others. It's not exactly the left wing convention

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
27. I have worked along side of a local chapter of the NUL ...
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 09:38 PM
Aug 2015

for about 20 years ... I have not seen evidence of corruption, I have seen them do a lot of advocacy work and positively effecting lives.

Report1212

(661 posts)
29. I'm talking about at the national level
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:19 PM
Aug 2015

Marc Morial even writes op-eds slamming Obama's crackdowns on for profit colleges.

At the local level pretty much any organization has good people

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
32. Well ... What "corruption" are you speaking of? ...
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:55 PM
Aug 2015

I know Morial sat on the Board of Corinthian and the NUL accepted a $1,000,000 donation from them ... but that does not connote corruption.

Report1212

(661 posts)
38. Taking money from a corrupt organization and advocating for it?
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 06:36 PM
Aug 2015

Especially an organization that targets minorities? NUL sucks

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
39. Okay; but, that has not been my experience working along side NUL over the years ...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 06:53 PM
Aug 2015

I have witnessed them doing a lot of good ... life saving good.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
7. Would love to read the speech and have it pointed out that which garnered the standing ovation.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:35 AM
Aug 2015

Remember what a goor orator Obama is? And still he was bludgeoned by those who didn't like teleprompters, who didn't like he stopping to gather his thoughts with so may "ahhh" 's. It would take a virtual God to have it be universally accepted that someone gave a good, comfortable, flowing speech......it is inevitable that her speech will be slammed, not for it's content, but delivery. Just waiting.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
8. The heavy media push to show Hillary as empathetic and natural is astounding.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:49 AM
Aug 2015

She has never appeared very warm and fuzzy, and that perception hurts her among voters. So her campaign makes sure fluff pieces like this are written, and air commercials featuring her mother, to show us she really truly does care and is carefree.

A metamorphosis right before our eyes!

Really????

JI7

(89,252 posts)
16. the big media isn't reporting this
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 04:14 PM
Aug 2015

They are focused on trump.

Their reporting on the dems had mostly been about sanders getting large crowds and Clinton emails and now possible biden run.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
17. Yes I know. The stories like the one in the OP are an extension of her campaign.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 04:19 PM
Aug 2015

It's an attempt to re-brand someone who has been under public scrutiny for decades. It will work with some people, others, not so much.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
30. Really not with most Ny'ers even with the opposition she won over....
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:22 PM
Aug 2015

I guess that pisses people off but if you can't work with every body then you can't represent them either. She won handily in both elections as Senator.

Gothmog

(145,340 posts)
10. Hillary Clinton gave a great speech to the Urban League
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:52 AM
Aug 2015

She discussed Black Lives Matter if a very intelligent manner and got some good shots in at Jeb

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
28. I saw that part, she should stab him with it every time she gets a chance, I"ll NEVER EVER forget 2k
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:06 PM
Aug 2015

askew

(1,464 posts)
11. From a reporter who was there (and who is pro-Hillary)
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:54 AM
Aug 2015

@AliceOllstein: Urban League members from Philly tell me they were most impressed by @MartinOMalley, felt that @RealBenCarson talked at them, not to them.

Lots of tweets from prominent AA activists post-Urban League who were impressed with O'Malley's speech and criminal justice reform plan.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
24. Tweets on Hillary's Speech @ NULC from an African American Admin @ The Obama Diary..
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 09:25 PM
Aug 2015
Nerdy Wonka ?@NerdyWonka
Hillary: "Anyone who asks for your vote should see things as they are, not as they want them to be"

Feel that SHADE, Bernie?
😂😂😂
3:03 AM - 31 Jul 2015

Nerdy Wonka ?@NerdyWonka

HRC: "Those of us who have not experienced racial inequities have a special burden. We need to practice some humility."

*Ahem* Bernie fans.

3:05 AM - 31 Jul 2015
32 32 Retweets
30 30 favorites

Nerdy Wonka ?@NerdyWonka

Good on Hillary for telling white America to stop pretending that their experiences are black people's experiences. Practice some empathy.
3:21 AM - 31 Jul 2015 32 32 Retweets
20 20 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/07/31/rise-and-shine-1068/

And, they haven't exactly been in Hillary's camp but here it is.





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