Let's get this straight....

[Splinter Cell]

I'm sick of hearing all the crap about "it's the republicans and we have to vote for whoever wins the democratic nomination no matter what etc".

I will vote for the democratic nominee. Whoever he or she may be. As long as it's not Hillary Rodham Clinton.

I will not vote for one republican over another just because they have a "D" next to their name. Hillary as a liberal is a farce. If you can't deal with that, that's your problem.

If she was nominated, the party would have lost in 2008. The same is true in 2016. Biden, O'Malley, Sanders, any of these candidates are better choices. True choices. Hillary vs. Jeb is not a choice.

Carry on with your delusions. That is your right. Just stop telling the rest of us that we have to buy into it.

[BooScout]

1. Alrighty then....

[DCBob]

2. The Republicans love this kind of thinking.

[sabrina 1]

18. What the Republicans are not liking is Bernie Sanders who WILL be the nominee because

an awful lot of people out their, many of them non voters because they feel the same way the OP feels, are going to and ARE signing up to make sure there is a president in the WH who is FOR the PEOPLE and is not compromised by Corporate money.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

3. Just remember that while you can post this now,

after the nominee becomes obvious, you're not allowed to post anything against that person until after the Presidential election, or you get banned from the site. So if it's Hillary, silence is golden.

[cherokeeprogressive]

25. "So if it's Hillary, silence is golden." Don't worry...

If it's Hillary, few if any of us will feel like posting.

Then, you'll finally get your echo chamber back.

[VanillaRhapsody]

26. Cannot wait!

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

31. My?

I'm not a Hillary fan. I just don't want to see people getting the boot if they can avoid it.

[doc03]

4. So if you don't get your way screw SS, Medicare, ACA, the environment, civil rights,

the 99%.

[sufrommich]

5. .....

[Godhumor]

6. Enjoy the rest of your time here then

Because I assume you will be leaving, either voluntarily or involuntarily, after the convention.

[JaneyVee]

7. Must be nice to have the luxury and privilege of...

A Republican president and a 7-2 wingnut SCOTUS not effecting your life. Some of us want nothing to do with rightwing in power and attacking us on every front.

[sabrina 1]

19. BECAUSE of the SC I am supporting Sanders as are millions of Americans who want

their President to not be compromised by Corporate Money.

Biggest issue in this campaign, thanks Biden for supporting Warren and Bernie on this, is going to be the corroding, corrupting effects of money on our political system.

[BeyondGeography]

8. Weak

[onehandle]

9. Not voting or not voting for the "D" is the same as voting Republican.

Period.

[rock]

17. As I like to say

"It's a half-vote by a half-wit!"

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. "Multa novit vulpes, verum echinus unum magnum."

"The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing."

Archilochus

I will leave it the denizens of this board to divine who the foxes and hedgehogs are on this board.

[OilemFirchen]

11. Following months of consideration, it's finally time to ask the obvious:

Who gives a shit?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. ...

[MineralMan]

13. Well, thanks for letting us know.

Really...

[Adrahil]

14. If you believe Jeb v Hillary is not a choice...

I have some prime real estate to talk to you about....

You are just not tracking with the facts.

[wyldwolf]

15. "If she was nominated, the party would have lost in 2008." Evidence suggests the opposite

No need to argue the point with you, though. People like you have different definitions of 'evidence' and 'facts' than the rest of us.

[dsc]

16. So if you are a white, straight, male

will you give up some of the rights you apparently expect the rest of us to give up so you can feel good about yourself? For example, if abortion rights get eliminated will you go without sex or in the alternative raise someone's unwanted child they were forced to carry? Or if marriage equality gets eliminated will you either divorce your spouse now or if you are unmarried vow to remain unmarried until marriage equality comes back? Or will you give up your right to vote when it is taken away from people of color? Or will you voluntarily deport yourself when whatever Republican starts deporting people? I am pretty sure you won't be doing any such thing.

[lunamagica]

22. +1. You seid it perfectly. Who cares of othes lives are devastated by the GOP winning?

They won't be affected, and that's all that matters

[m-lekktor]

20. I live in a very blue state, my non Hillary vote wouldn't matter! nt

[kath]

24. I live in a very red state, therefore leaving the Prez spot blank on my ballot (if HRC is nominee)

, won't matter one frickin bit, just as it didn't matter when I did it in 2012.

[BainsBane]

21. There is no way that Clinton approaches the GOP on the issues

That is patently false. That kind of irrational opposition to Clinton has nothing to do with her political positions or her voting record. In fact, there are other candidates in this race far closer to the GOP on the issues.
There is one thing that distinguishes Hillary Clinton, and it is not her politics.

[fbc]

23. Bernie is our lord and savior, but you're wrong.

Hillary Clinton will be much better than any republican, and I bet you will feel the same way by the time the election rolls around if she's the nominee.

Hell, Bernie would say the same thing himself and I bet he will endorse Hillary fully if she wins.

[bravenak]

27. You came just to say this unhelpful nonsense?nt

[polichick]

28. There is a reason the Clinton family is tight with the Bush family.

[Maedhros]

29. Biden is NOT better than Hillary - he's way too cozy with the banking industry:

http://www.propublica.org/article/bidens-cozy-relations-with-bank-industry-825

With Sen. Joe Biden joining the Democratic ticket, there’s renewed scrutiny of Biden’s connections to the credit card industry. Biden has been particularly cozy with MBNA, a financial services company from Delaware, and now a subsidiary of Bank of America.

Over the past 20 years, MBNA has been Biden’s single largest contributor. And as the New York Times and Wall Street Journal note, Biden’s son Hunter was hired out of law school by MBNA and later worked as a lobbyist for the company.

The Times also details just how helpful Biden has been to MBNA and the credit card industry. The senator was a key supporter of an industry-favorite bill—the “Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005”—that actually made it harder for consumers to get protection under bankruptcy.

That bankruptcy bill was very, very bad for ordinary working Americans as well as the middle class. And they got it in place just before the bubble burst in 2008. Nice timing guys - it's as if you predicted that there would be a massive number of bankruptcies in the near future.

[Juicy_Bellows]

30. I do believe that if Hillary gets the nomination it will be difficult for her to win the big show.

She would have a much more difficult go of it than Sanders or O'Malley. The Blue Wall is a factor and will help out whomever gets the nod but Hillary's baggage and the rights seething dislike of her brings it's own set of would-be Mongols to dismantle it.

I also feel that if she gets the nomination and it ends up being Clinton vs. Bush we will see record voter apathy.

Just my opinions.

Cheers!