2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIt's Official -- Bernie Sanders Has Overtaken Hillary Clinton In the Hearts and Minds of Democrats
According to PBS, Bernie Sanders is "gaining against Clinton in early polls." Salon's Bill Curry believes "Hillary Clinton is going lose," primarily because millions of voters longing for a truly progressive candidate will nominate Sanders. POLITICO explained recently that Early-state polls hint at a Bernie Sanders surge, a headline that was unthinkable only several months earlier. Yahoo's Meredith Shiner calls Sanders a "progressive social media star and pragmatic legislator" and states that "Sanders also has a much more substantial legislative history" than any GOP challenger. In Iowa, 1,100 people packed a gym to hear Bernie Sanders speak in May.
In contrast, Team Hillary had an intimate business roundtable discussion with five "ordinary" Iowans. The only problem was that according to The Washington Post, "All five were selected to attend her events." In fact, Clinton's "staged roundtables" were attended by a total of 13 Iowans, picked by either the campaign or the host.
Therefore, a paradigm shift has taken place. Many Iowans drove 50 miles to hear Sanders speak in Des Moines, primarily because Bernie Sanders has surpassed Clinton as the ideal choice for Democratic nominee. Regarding electability, Sanders has also surpassed Clinton as the realistic choice for Democratic nominee in the minds of many voters, because as one Salon piece illustrates, Hillary "just doesn't get it."
MORE HERE: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/its-official-bernie-sande_b_7660226.html
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Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Democrats do not believe, only in H A Goodman's article.
Faux pas
(14,681 posts)staged roundtables have been irking me from the beginning. That's no way to reach out to 'we', the people.
jfern
(5,204 posts)about TPP, Glass Steagall, the Iraq war, the NSA, Wall Street deregulation, or other issues she doesn't want to talk about. Her response to Keystone XL was a complete joke, so she'd rather just avoid the issues. No debates. No real voters with the press present, just hand selected elites for her to talk to.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Which cannot happen in huge rallies. That may irk you, but I prefer a candidate who actually listens to what voters care about.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Where is it kept?
murielm99
(30,745 posts)I guess we will need to look for those when we count the vote after the primaries, rather than BALLOTS.
This old article is funny. Thanks for the laugh.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)BooScout
(10,406 posts)Checking your sources is always a good idea.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)In terms of identity, Hillary Clinton might be a liberal according to fivethirtyeight.com, yet their analysis gives her a free pass on war, gay marriage, and other issues liberals had championed before they were popular. Adhering to polls is fine, but the words "poll driven," not "progressive," come to mind for someone with this type of persona. If one's views on war and foreign policy are enough for The New York Times to publish an article titled Are neocons getting ready to ally with Hillary Clinton?, then Bernie Sanders becomes an even better candidate for people opposed to never-ending American counterinsurgency wars. Clinton might say she was duped by faulty intelligence, but Bernie Sanders had enough intelligence and wisdom to vote against the Iraq war back in 2003.
In contrast to Clinton, Sanders has supported the issue of gay marriage since 2000, vehemently opposed the Iraq War, opposes TPP, wants student loan debt reforms, fights for veterans, and isn't afraid to blast "too big to fail" Wall Street firms. As for him being an "avowed Socialist," George Bush's $700 billion bailout of banks was textbook socialism, so Sanders will be able to shrug off the label after one or two televised debates. Bernie Sanders represents a new era in American politics; one where values trump Citizens United cash or cold pragmatism. America needs a human being like Sanders, now more than ever before.
One correction: Bernie Sanders has always supported same sex marriage and lgbt rights. They should have done more research:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251467567
Compared to Bernie, Hillary's no liberal.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)whose predictions have not been born out in polling, which is the only way to measure public opinion. In fact, Sanders dropped 5 points, 20 percent, in the past week.