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ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 02:32 PM Aug 2015

It's Official -- Bernie Sanders Has Overtaken Hillary Clinton In the Hearts and Minds of Democrats


According to PBS, Bernie Sanders is "gaining against Clinton in early polls." Salon's Bill Curry believes "Hillary Clinton is going lose," primarily because millions of voters longing for a truly progressive candidate will nominate Sanders. POLITICO explained recently that Early-state polls hint at a Bernie Sanders surge, a headline that was unthinkable only several months earlier. Yahoo's Meredith Shiner calls Sanders a "progressive social media star and pragmatic legislator" and states that "Sanders also has a much more substantial legislative history" than any GOP challenger. In Iowa, 1,100 people packed a gym to hear Bernie Sanders speak in May.

In contrast, Team Hillary had an intimate business roundtable discussion with five "ordinary" Iowans. The only problem was that according to The Washington Post, "All five were selected to attend her events." In fact, Clinton's "staged roundtables" were attended by a total of 13 Iowans, picked by either the campaign or the host.

Therefore, a paradigm shift has taken place. Many Iowans drove 50 miles to hear Sanders speak in Des Moines, primarily because Bernie Sanders has surpassed Clinton as the ideal choice for Democratic nominee. Regarding electability, Sanders has also surpassed Clinton as the realistic choice for Democratic nominee in the minds of many voters, because as one Salon piece illustrates, Hillary "just doesn't get it."

MORE HERE: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/its-official-bernie-sande_b_7660226.html
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It's Official -- Bernie Sanders Has Overtaken Hillary Clinton In the Hearts and Minds of Democrats (Original Post) ghostsinthemachine Aug 2015 OP
Huuummmmm, another H A Goodman article in the link, huh. Yep, another article declaring what most Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #1
Her 'private' Faux pas Aug 2015 #2
The little people might ask her jfern Aug 2015 #10
It's about listening to voters concerns BainsBane Aug 2015 #12
Is there a schedule for recycling and reposting month old opinion pieces on DU? onehandle Aug 2015 #3
Hearts and minds, huh? murielm99 Aug 2015 #4
Yawn. Check the polls. JaneyVee Aug 2015 #5
I can see how a Rand Paul supporter might think that. DanTex Aug 2015 #6
ah, the world according to a RAND blogger... BooScout Aug 2015 #7
They brought up the issues that turned me against Hillary: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #8
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #9
a month old story BainsBane Aug 2015 #11

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Huuummmmm, another H A Goodman article in the link, huh. Yep, another article declaring what most
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 02:35 PM
Aug 2015

Democrats do not believe, only in H A Goodman's article.

Faux pas

(14,681 posts)
2. Her 'private'
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 02:38 PM
Aug 2015

staged roundtables have been irking me from the beginning. That's no way to reach out to 'we', the people.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
10. The little people might ask her
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:35 AM
Aug 2015

about TPP, Glass Steagall, the Iraq war, the NSA, Wall Street deregulation, or other issues she doesn't want to talk about. Her response to Keystone XL was a complete joke, so she'd rather just avoid the issues. No debates. No real voters with the press present, just hand selected elites for her to talk to.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
12. It's about listening to voters concerns
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:40 AM
Aug 2015

Which cannot happen in huge rallies. That may irk you, but I prefer a candidate who actually listens to what voters care about.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
4. Hearts and minds, huh?
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 03:07 PM
Aug 2015

I guess we will need to look for those when we count the vote after the primaries, rather than BALLOTS.

This old article is funny. Thanks for the laugh.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
8. They brought up the issues that turned me against Hillary:
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 05:41 PM
Aug 2015
According to The Atlantic, Clinton's stance remained unchanged for years, and "she also opposed gay marriage as recently as 2013, long after a majority of Americans already held a more gay-friendly position."

In terms of identity, Hillary Clinton might be a liberal according to fivethirtyeight.com, yet their analysis gives her a free pass on war, gay marriage, and other issues liberals had championed before they were popular. Adhering to polls is fine, but the words "poll driven," not "progressive," come to mind for someone with this type of persona. If one's views on war and foreign policy are enough for The New York Times to publish an article titled Are neocons getting ready to ally with Hillary Clinton?, then Bernie Sanders becomes an even better candidate for people opposed to never-ending American counterinsurgency wars. Clinton might say she was duped by faulty intelligence, but Bernie Sanders had enough intelligence and wisdom to vote against the Iraq war back in 2003.

In contrast to Clinton, Sanders has supported the issue of gay marriage since 2000, vehemently opposed the Iraq War, opposes TPP, wants student loan debt reforms, fights for veterans, and isn't afraid to blast "too big to fail" Wall Street firms. As for him being an "avowed Socialist," George Bush's $700 billion bailout of banks was textbook socialism, so Sanders will be able to shrug off the label after one or two televised debates. Bernie Sanders represents a new era in American politics; one where values trump Citizens United cash or cold pragmatism. America needs a human being like Sanders, now more than ever before.


One correction: Bernie Sanders has always supported same sex marriage and lgbt rights. They should have done more research:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251467567

Compared to Bernie, Hillary's no liberal.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
11. a month old story
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:38 AM
Aug 2015

whose predictions have not been born out in polling, which is the only way to measure public opinion. In fact, Sanders dropped 5 points, 20 percent, in the past week.

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