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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 01:03 AM Aug 2015

Bush-Clinton Is Not Inevitable

Note: IMO "bubba" is a class-based impulse, and writers should just shitcan it. Also, such a match-up would likely lead to the lowest voter turnout in an open presidential year in recent memory.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/07/31/bush-clinton-not-inevitable

For going on thirty years now, Republicans have been using wedge issues, fear, bigotry, jingoism, and religious zealotry to appeal to the limbic lizard brain in all of us, in an effort to vilify government, glorify the free market and get people to vote against their own interests, while fat cats and plutocrats converted our Republic into an oligarchy.

It’s worked pretty well. A full-scale assault, including caging voters, radical gerrymandering of districts, outright purchase of the media, and complete neutering of campaign finance laws has changed the terms of the national debate; marginalized and frightened liberals; and given Republicans an outsized roll in state governments, the legislature, and the judiciary.

Ah, but he who lives by the lizard brain, dies by it.
The Party has become an anti-enlightenment caricature that appeals mainly to old white Bubbas – a diminishing breed that is fast losing its grip on power. And now along comes Trump, speaking with heinous clarity that strips away any veneer of respectability, revealing the dark reptilian evil that has taken over the Party, and the Banksters and Wall Streeters –and all those who used these wedge issues to enrich themselves and screw the Bubbas -- are losing ground in the Party they bought and paid for.

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It’s coming as a surprise to many mainstream pundits that a Socialist with a progressive message is doing so well. But the best-kept secret in politics is that, on an issue-by-issue basis, the American people are well left of center. A massive investment by conservative billionaires over the past 40 years may have rebranded “liberal” to be some despised political label, but the voter’s have strongly supported the individual positions Sanders is advocating all along. All it took to reveal their liberalism was someone with the courage and integrity to confront the oligarchs and plutocrats and give them a real choice.

What’s amusing, in a twisted way, is to watch Hillary try to catch some of the progressive headwind, without actually being progressive. For example, her announcement about tackling climate by putting up half a billion solar panels on rooftops was a cynically designed ploy, announced to head off the palpable skepticism generated by her unwillingness to take a stand on the XL, back off an all-of-the-above energy policy, or commit to reigning in the use of fossil fuels. But fostering clean energy without also cutting carbon emissions is like trying to eat the sizzle while the steak’s still in the fire.

None of this should be too surprising. Hillary get's a lot of money from fossil fuel interests. So positing solutions while she ignores the source of the problem makes sense. She hopes it will appear responsive to those criticizing her about her lack of a serious climate policy, while leaving her free to do what she wants if elected, and most importantly, to keep getting that money.

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quickesst

(6,280 posts)
1. Well....
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 02:12 AM
Aug 2015

.... I suppose you could take some comfort in that whoever wrote this is probably at least half right.

PATRICK

(12,228 posts)
2. Just on the basics
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 05:58 AM
Aug 2015

Frontrunners in open elections. I guess that word is not popularized anymore and maybe this year for good reason. Frontrunners who are locked become sitting targets trying in elephantine fashion to coalesce the center, prematurely during ever so frustrating primaries.

Jeb and Hillary have fixed negatives, prejudices. Jeb matches his family baggage with his mouth but he gets pampered so he makes more sloppy speeches. And his horrific dynasty entitlement is as real as it is disgusting.
Jeb's negatives far outweigh anything real, but hey, it's the GOP 2015! Hillary goes in losing all those brainwashed over many years of the Hate Hillary franchise, the "Clinton" dynasty thing also too forced. She is cautious and center oriented to the detriment of a lot a lot possible enthusiasm. Her potential seems fixed in concrete. For Jeb it is still wet cement. Each is vulnerable in actual campaigning too, Jeb just not a loser -yet.

Regardless, by the math and the known set public attitudes, each is vulnerable in the primaries and a much needed source of angst for the party leaders and donors. It seems very possible neither will be on the ticket, especially Jeb, but then we will see how money influence really owns our system to simply wash away all that history and the rational experience of past primaries. Simply buying campaign workers, message and structure.

marble falls

(57,097 posts)
3. "such a match-up would likely lead to the lowest voter turnout in an open presidential year in .....
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 09:13 AM
Aug 2015

recent memory."

Exactly what I worry about. Its something that would hurt us more than Jeb in the White House - it'll cost us in the election for the Senate and the House.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
5. I believe there is a strong chance it will be Bush vs. Clinton
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 10:57 AM
Aug 2015

The Clinton supporters believe if it is that she will win in a landslide. I've heard some say she would win Arkansas, Texas, and Arizona. However the truth is that it will be years, if ever before those states flip. Personally I believe it is bad news for us if this match-up becomes a reality.

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