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Many Progressives are apparently not buying into Barney Frank's lame attempt
to derail Bernie's candidacy. Woot and Huzza!
IN RESPONSE TO BARNEY FRANKS ATTACK ON SANDERS
by Cristóbal Reyes * Jul 24, 2015 * Young Progressive Voices
To be clear, this is not the reaction to an attack on Sanderss viability as a candidate per se; rather, it is a condemnation of Mr. Franks suggestion that Hillary Clintons current lead in the polls and her threat to the Republican Party should grant her the Democratic nomination ipso facto.
While one is certainly entitled to ones biases, it should nevertheless be considered independent of ones inclination toward democracy and choice, rather than the dance with the devil from which the existing political system has yet to be freed. That being said, it is in the best interest of anyone crying foul over my choice of words that I rebut (read: rebuke) Mr. Franks points one at a time.
Consider, for example, his first contention:
Okay, so this is more of a thesis than an actual point, but it is nevertheless indicative of what I mentioned so colorfully earlier, so as to not be accused of misrepresenting the former congressmans argument. He is explicitly calling on the powers that be to declare the winner of a race before the starters gun is fired. No other racers need apply. Debates will only, as Mr. Frank condescendingly puts it, make Ms. Clinton spend most of her time and campaign funds proving her ideological purity in an intraparty fight, otherwise known as partaking in the democratic process.
Right off the bat, he ignores that these so called intraparty fights are a common means to determine which candidate best represents their respective party. If one were to follow his logic, Mrs. Clinton should have been granted the nomination in 2008, given that she enjoyed a similar comfort in the court of public opinion before being routed by a formerly relatively unknown name.
More: http://www.youngprogressivevoices.com/2015/07/24/rebuttal-barney-franks-attack-sanders/
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)don't know what happened. retirement too cushy?
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)"Mr. Frank joined to the board of directors of the New York-based Signature Bank on Wednesday, June 17th, 2015"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank
Probably lobbying for Wall St. I'm guessing, as it doesn't specify what his new job entails.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)owned by Signature Bank and put it to work for the benefit of those who control Signature Bank.
appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)the people anymore. Shame, but it pays a lot better, and takes down many. Saw it in our own circle- one went from buddy to bankster, with no regrets and justifications beaucoup. Money can do that, to some.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)and topple over a secularish dictator using Doha and Riyadh's ultra-Salafists they don't want at home any more" wants to be the LGBT champion now, their last best hope?
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)and then someone else who happens to BE in that sacred, untouchable category not only says "nuh-uh" but then gives a detailed and thorough breakdown that just smashes to bits what they'd been trying to pull
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)Other candidates never needed to "evolve."
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)but it really bothers me to see lectures from straight folks telling LGBT people they do not have the same right to a strong opinion about a candidate that the straight folks have. In short, it's fine for the OP to feel strongly about a candidate, but not for Frank, who is gay and thus must do as he is told by Straight Folk such as the OP. How dare he voice his opinion.
It's very off putting, and not the sort of thing Bernie does. The linked article describes a gay person having an opinion differing from that of the author as 'repulsive' 'disgusting' and other highly loaded and intentionally aggressive verbiage. Hand crafted to reflect disrespect and announce a supremacist world view.
This sort of thing, this is how to lose, and I'm not sure how many times a lesson needs to be taught. Get with the program. Others have the right to support whomever they wish, even gay people and black people, learn to live with it and stop whining about it. One could attempt to persuade such voters to change their minds, but when I say 'one could' I don't mean the OP or anyone like the author at the link. Respectful, equality minded people can persuade such voters. All people like this author can do is make voters less content to vote with such a peer group.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 29, 2015, 11:44 PM - Edit history (1)
The fact that Barney is gay has absolutely nothing to do with my disappointment
in his choice to support Hillary over Bernie. NOTHING.
It has EVERYTHING to do with Barney now working for the industry he supposedly
"reigned in" with Dodd/Frank, and then failing to support the ONE candidate in this
primary race who wants to re-instate Glass/Steagal.
Barney's gayness does not render him somehow immune to any & all criticism of
his poor choice to support Hillary over Bernie in the Primary.
appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)analysis, I guess. It's about class analysis.