Does anyone know how much Senator Sanders pays his campaign workers.

[William769]

I see he keeps touting $15.00 an hour for a minimum wage. I wonder if that's what he is paying is campaign workers?

[HERVEPA]

1. well, thanks for the flamebait.

[William769]

3. Flamebait?

Honest question.

[sheshe2]

14. Let me see if I can go research this, it interests me.

[William769]

18. Thanks sheshe.

[SwampG8r]

136. Why thank her?

When she discovers how bad Hillary is on her interns she will just not respond here again
I don t see how anyone could lend her any credibility after the race baiting hog shit she has posted here

[Cha]

75. "Flamebait"? Why is asking a question about Bernie "flamebait"? Is that just a stock retort

when they don't like something?

[HERVEPA]

104. They?

But you're right. I apologize. I also wonder whether he is still beating his wife.

[Historic NY]

111. Notice when you ask something its called flamebait...

but when other consistently post stuff against Hillary its called information. I don't see the Hillary group bragging about how many posts are made here. Who or whom are they trying to impress. The DU crowd??

[calimary]

142. Fair enough!

Double-standard perhaps?

[840high]

64. ...^ that

[beam me up scottie]

71. It happens whenever Hillary has a bad day.

Can't defend her non-answer on the Keystone Pipeline?

SQUIRRELL!!1!

[Snotcicles]

106. Is Bernie Sanders running a for profit business, or a political campaign?

[HERVEPA]

119. Stop making sense

[ladjf]

130. That is the exact point and shows that the OP question was pure flame bait. nt

[quickesst]

99. Absolutely hilarious

A similar thread concerning Clinton and her interns is nothing more than a long attack in the guise of political discourse. A simple question concerning Bernies interns is somehow flamebait.

[MineralMan]

116. How is that flamebait?

It's a good question, but the answer is likely to be that most campaigns run on the power of volunteerism. While some people in campaigns are paid, lots more are there for the reason that they honestly support the candidates and are willing to donate their time to help get them elected. I've done that so many times I can't count.

Volunteers work hard for the campaigns, but don't do it for the money.

[Armstead]

2. Cheap shot.

[Gregorian]

4. To be honest, in Bernie's case, it's not an election per se, but a revolution.

[Raine1967]

19. Every candidate should be paying staff what they support as minimum wage.

The OP poses a fair question.

It is also fair to ask why the Clinton and the O'Malley campaign pay as well.

I know O'Malley and Sanders are for 15 dollars an hour as minimum wage.

What do all the candidates pay for staff?

[Agschmid]

36. I don't think any candidates average out to $15, kind of a bummer huh

[calimary]

141. It's absolutely a reasonable question.

No flame bait AT ALL. Totally fair. It's useful information to have - whether any candidate is living up to his or her rhetoric, or it's just another case of "do as I say, not as I do." It's a big issue at the moment anyway - across the board, raising the minimum wage. And any candidate who embraces that issue does indeed need to be able to answer about it for his or her own campaign.

One might be tempted to think, with all the attempts to cry foul here, that only Hillary should be confronted with serious questions like this, while Bernie Sanders should somehow get a free pass. Fair is fair. Since they're the two main choices for Democrats, I think they should both be asked the same questions about the same issues. Frankly, ALL the candidates stepping forward on our team should get the same questions. NOBODY is allowed to be dealt, OR play, some immunity card. Nobody's entitled to be an untouchable.

[Raine1967]

143. I really think it is a fair question to ask of every candidate.

I am an O'Malley supporter and I would like to know what he is paying his non-volunteer staff. He supports 15 dollars an hour.

The thing is, only Sanders and O'MAlley have come out supporting a minimum wage of 15$ and hour. Unless I have missed it, I don't think Clinton has. (if I am wrong, I would like to be corrected)

This is an important issue and should be addressed. IF sanders supporters think that this is flame bait or unfair, well— that is on them.

[okasha]

69. So his people get paid

with the aristos' jewels and the loot from their sympathizers' shops?

You're playing a game. Real revolution is a bloody business.

[daleanime]

101. Industrial revolution.....

Technical revolution.....

Political revolution?

[stevenleser]

159. Every candidate and their supporters try to suggest a movement or revolution

There is nothing about Bernies campaign to suggest anything out of the ordinary.

[Gregorian]

162. I beg to differ. All of the other candidates are working within the system.

Bernie is proposing something new. Something evolved from our present situation. You know, the one that gave us income inequality never before seen. That's a huge difference.

[stevenleser]

167. And so is Bernie, completely within the system. Let's not exaggerate.

He's running in the Democratic primary, he's running ads, etc. there is nothing remotely out of the system about how he is aiming for power.

[Gregorian]

169. You don't know what you're talking about.

[Bjorn Against]

5. Nearly all of his campaign workers are volunteers

We only have one paid staff member in Minnesota. I don't know what his salary is but I am sure it is more than $15 an hour.

[William769]

6. You sure about that?

[Bjorn Against]

11. I have not personally seen his pay stub

I do know that he is a veteran organizer however, people of his experience generally make more than minimum wage.

[Agschmid]

15. I think politics pays less than some think...

At least in base pay that is.

[artislife]

31. Incredible how they create a meme out of thin air..

Oh really.....hmm
Are you....... sure..............hmmm
An honest question....hmmm
It's because I care about the workers........hmmmm

[sheshe2]

54. Hmmmm~

Incredible how they create a meme out of thin air..

Got it minimumum wage is a meme.

Oh really.....hmm

Yes really.

Are you....... sure..............hmmm

Aren't you!

An honest question....hmmm

Yes it was, sad you have a problem with that.

It's because I care about the workers........hmmmm

Go William you rock. You care about all of us!

Thanks for your post William. A working wage should not just be a talking point. It should be a reality. That is the point Artislife.

[artislife]

61. Oh, Hi!! Can I expect your friends?

I will get out the coffee and donuts!

[sheshe2]

68. Are you calling me an overweight

old woman? Is that the point of your picture? You are insulting me. Lol~ nope, I am no where close to that, yet dream on. Ya, you seem to do a lot of that on this board.

First I do not do donuts. I may not be real young...sorry to disappoint, I'm thin....and I sure as hell can run circles around you any day of the week.

You post rudely.

I read and watch it and make note of it.

[beam me up scottie]

74. Maybe you just remind her of someone else.

You post rudely

You posted to artislife first and it wasn't exactly civil, she.

Hypocrisy much?

[Puglover]

108. She

"watches and makes notes."

[Autumn]

113. That certainly makes Christmas shopping easier. Perhaps a nice journal.

[Divernan]

137. Evidently wants to take over the role of Diane Blair

The papers of Diane Blair, a political science professor Hillary Clinton described as her “closest friend” before Blair’s death in 2000, record years of candid conversations with the Clintons on issues ranging from single-payer health care to Monica Lewinsky, including Hillary's need for, in Hillary's own word, "revenge".
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/02/12/confidants-diary-clinton-wanted-to-keep-records-for-revenge/
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/diane-blairs-telling-observations-hillary-clinton-22454307

OOOOOOOhhhhhh, Be Afraid! Puglover! Be very afraid!

Shortly before Hillary Clinton’s effort to pass health care reform died in the summer of 1994, the first lady asked a close friend and confidant for advice on “how best to preserve her general memories of the administration and of health care in particular.”

When asked why, according to the friend’s June 20, 1994, diary entry, Clinton said, “Revenge.”

That exchange is among thousands of pages of notes, letters, and diary entries penned by Diane Blair, a political science professor and longtime Clinton friend whose papers were donated to the University of Arkansas after her death in 2000.

Blair worked on Bill Clinton’s two presidential campaigns and advised the president and first lady throughout their eight years in the White House. In particular, she was very close with Hillary Clinton, who called Blair her “closest friend” in her 2003 memoir “Living History.”

[Divernan]

147. Shades of the Lord High Executioner/The Mikado

What fun! We're getting into Gilbert and Sullivan territory here.
In the Mikado, the character of Ko-Ko, aka The Lord High Executioner, has a lovely song and it goes a little something like this:

As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list — I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed — who never would be missed!
There's the pestilential nuisances who write for autographs —
All people who have flabby hands and irritating laughs —
All children who are up in dates, and floor you with 'em flat —
All persons who in shaking hands, shake hands with you like that —
And all third persons who on spoiling tête-á-têtes insist —
They'd none of 'em be missed — they'd none of 'em be missed!
Chorus.
He's got 'em on the list — he's got 'em on the list;
And they'll none of 'em be missed — they'll none of 'em be missed.

http://math.boisestate.edu/gas/mikado/webopera/mk105a.html

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you very much! Tip your servers!
I'll be playing here all primary season!

And of course in the proud tradition of making up lists, we have a real life historical character known for his "lists" - Red-baiting, black-listing, anti-homosexual witch-hunting Senator Joseph McCarthy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy

Wheeling speech

McCarthy experienced a meteoric rise in national profile on February 9, 1950, when he gave a Lincoln Day speech to the Republican Women's Club of Wheeling, West Virginia. His words in the speech are a matter of some debate, as no audio recording was saved. However, it is generally agreed that he produced a piece of paper that he claimed contained a list of known Communists working for the State Department. McCarthy is usually quoted to have said: "The State Department is infested with communists. I have here in my hand a list of 205—a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the State Department."[36][37]

There is some dispute about whether or not McCarthy actually gave the number of people on the list as being "205" or "57". In a later telegram to President Truman, and when entering the speech into the Congressional Record, he used the number 57.[38] The origin of the number 205 can be traced: In later debates on the Senate floor, McCarthy referred to a 1946 letter that then–Secretary of State James Byrnes sent to Congressman Adolph J. Sabath. In that letter, Byrnes said State Department security investigations had resulted in "recommendation against permanent employment" for 284 persons, and that 79 of these had been removed from their jobs; this left 205 still on the State Department's payroll. In fact, by the time of McCarthy's speech only about 65 of the employees mentioned in the Byrnes letter were still with the State Department, and all of these had undergone further security checks.[39]

[artislife]

77. I enjoy our time together. You drop by so often

I feel like I know you.


Please, they are Krispy Creme, you'd like it.

[beam me up scottie]

79. I love Krispy Cremes!

Especially when they're fresh out of the oven.

[artislife]

81. Join us!

I got good coffee, too. Cafe d'Arte.....so good you can drink it as is. But I can make a Starbucks run if you prefer. I am in Seattle, after all.
And hey, they pay their staff pretty well, too. Like Costco, another Seattle based company!

[beam me up scottie]

87. Seattle seems pretty awesome.

So is my home state - Vermont.

I wonder if a lot of the hatred around here is due to jealousy?

Don't hate us because we're progressive.

Join us!

[artislife]

89. And the two states are beautiful!

Maybe if I put some salmon out with some black berries for dessert, they will come?

Better get the salmon soon, our rivers are boiling them. Yup, the streams are too warm because we just had 90 degree weather for weeks and we had very little snow last winter, so no cold water coming down from the mountains.


But, lets just be merry while we can!

[beam me up scottie]

93. If they'd stop fighting the Bern and just go with it maybe they'd be less irritable.

I mean it's not like telling them that Hillary isn't good enough is something new, we did it in 2008.

They blame Bernie for her shortcomings just like they did Obama.

And we're still a bunch of sexists.

[artislife]

97. Sugar and caffeine...best cures

[artislife]

163. This

I didn't know he was gay and he forgave me. I thought he was dramatic, I don't assign that to a group of people--Like the majority of this board is pretty dramatic. Political junkies.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=446156

Now read his response
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=446165

No harm done to me. I am very tired as you can imagine after this long thread.

I am really worn down after this thread and defending myself.

Enjoy the site and no harm done.

If you dare. Didn't think you would so I thought I would put it here.


I may be many things, but I am not homophobic. The rest of the pile on him, I have no idea about because I was still very new here. But it seems par for the course.

[Fozzledick]

92. Jury results - someone's getting nasty behind the scenes.

On Wed Jul 29, 2015, 02:36 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Oh, Hi!! Can I expect your friends?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=480017

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This person needs to be sent to MIRT or Skinner. They are Homophobic. Yes, the fat attack, mild personal attack. Yet hrmjustins attack was left to stand. There is a pattern of abuse here. Please look at it. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251442874#post117 please put aside politics. This person is an abuser and homophobic. Please get them off our Democratic Board.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Jul 29, 2015, 02:48 AM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I really don't get it-- how bad is this one?
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If the poster needs to be reviewed by MIRT, so be it. I can't find anything wrong with a picture of three women who look like my aunts.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Bullshit accusations for a bullshit alert. The only abuser here is the alerter. FWIW the picture appears to be concern trolls.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I spent far too much time trying to figure out what this silliness was all about. I still don't get it. These people should simply stop arguing, they are probably both alerting on each other.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

[beam me up scottie]

95. LMAO!

Welcome to the club, artislife!

You know you're pissing off all the right people!



Thanks, Fozzledick!

[Cosmic Kitten]

103. Bwahahahahaha 0-7

[Snotcicles]

107. They are making us look bad. Cut the mic! nt

[Autumn]

115. There are times you know the alerter by the alert

[artislife]

153. Have not been back to this OP

Oh my. First Justin forgave me..I can't link to it now as I am on my phone because I was very new..did not know he was a he or that he is gay. I knew the poster was dramatic.
My response to the poster here was to jokingly let them know I am aware of their swooping in to attack. I thought this would let them know but not be a fight. I have been swarmed a number of times. I am not even sure if they are different people, they sound alike. But I guess you can have a one sided fight.
I have never alerted and probably never will.
I mean no one gets mortally wounded by meanies on the Internet, do they?

I think I will have a cocktail tonight celebrating Bernie and being alerted. I feel like I am having the full DU experience.

[madokie]

85. Volunteers don't generally get paid

I believe thats who the op is asking about but doing it in a way trying to cast a bad light on Sanders. It won't work and anyone with a couple working brain cells can see through this OP for what it is. Trash and lots of it.

I'm a volunteer and I don't expect nor would I take a penny for my time. I'm doing it because its the right thing to do. Bernie Sanders will win this election hands down. He will be known as the President of the United States come January 20, 2017.

[sheshe2]

86. Read post 7......

[brooklynite]

122. and are they getting time-and-a-half after 40 hours worked?

[Agschmid]

7. Here is what I read.

Sanders lists 33 campaign staff members on his campaign finance report, ranging from top dogs to part-time interns. The July report shows eight staffers receiving $683 twice a month. Briggs said those are $10.10-an-hour interns who regularly come to the office. The campaign also has volunteers, he said.

Interns on Sanders’ Senate office staff are paid $12 an hour, Briggs said. That’s more than some interns make in Congress. A 2013 report in the Atlantic magazine found that only 35 of the 100 senators paid their interns at all.

Beyond the interns on Sanders’ campaign staff, there’s a wide range of pay. Most workers won’t get rich off the job. Campaign manager Jeff Weaver makes the most, earning $4,934 twice monthly.

That higher salary works out to $118,416 after taxes.

http://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2015/07/27/sanders-touts-15-per-hour-wage-but-doesnt-pay-it

[William769]

8. Thank you kind sir.

[Agschmid]

10. Yah...

Unfortunately it's not great, would love to see him pay the $15.00. I figure "practice what you preach" and all but at least his people get paid, can you believe that stat about how many congressional interns are NOT paid?

Talk about a political class, to be able to afford to do that in DC?

[William769]

16. I never understood that about

"congressional interns are NOT paid" I for one would never do it under any circumstance or for any "education"

[Agschmid]

17. Me either...

Although realistically when it comes down to it, I'm salaried at 40 hours and regularly have to put in 45 hours to get what I need done on a weekly basis... so I guess I do it every week.

[freshwest]

12. Oh. I guess there will be perks later... n/t

[sheshe2]

20. Ha, I went to research Williams question...

Yes, found your link, Agschmid.

Thanks~

[Agschmid]

21. To be honest it's a bit odd...

SevenDaysVT is a very, at least IMO liberal VT paper I'm surprised they have some of the articles they have. I do really wish on this issue all the candidate supported a higher minimum wage AND had a plan to deal with wage compression. I think wage compression is almost as big of an issue, but it has to be handled very differently and I don't really see a plan for this.

[sheshe2]

26. Agree

I do really wish on this issue all the candidate supported a higher minimum wage AND had a plan to deal with wage compression. I think wage compression is almost as big of an issue, but it has to be handled very differently and I don't really see a plan for this.

Also they ALL have to find a way sell this to businesses and not let them find a way around it. Which they will try to do. My company already had meetings to find ways to stop it and/ or a way around it. None of them can go out and say it, without finding a way to enforce and protect it.

As a woman, I have already been on the receiving end for wage compression, when I trained men who were paid more than I.

[Agschmid]

29. Some businesses are actively raising the minimum wage...

I think for a few reasons...

- Better candidates to pick from, as the non working labor pool shrinks businesses who pay more get better candidates.
- Retention, business who pay more starting are able to retain employees longer.
- Job Repsinsibility/Workplace Pride, employees who are paid more "may" be more productive, and may help recruit more employees though pride in their employer etc.

Right now I am having real issues with wage compression, we increased our base level employees but never addressed compression with our more tenured staff. This has caused discontent among some of those longer term employees. While I understand that it's better to have everyone making more than the minimum, not everyone does.

Sure will be interesting to see what happens.

[sheshe2]

42. Hmmm...

I agree with all you said. We may have to talk more. We are both from Ma. Ya, retail here. You too? You mentioned retail below, curious.

[Agschmid]

43. I mostly mention retail because they are the companies raising their wages.

Great Huffpost article on it a while back, but now I can't find it on Google?

[sheshe2]

60. Not my company....

they are taking it away every chance they get.

Then add more job responsibility.

Yikes...more, not saying.

[azurnoir]

91. Last time that happened was in the mid-1990's but we had a POTUS with the cure

for such things, this particular POTUS saved business's from such things by providing them a near inexhaustible pool of near forced labor, want to know more? I'm betting not

[Sancho]

100. I agree with the problem of compression, and any minimum wage would erode eventually.

I think we've all seen this. I'm sure some people would criticize ANY plan, but I like the idea of companies getting tax relief in exchange for profit sharing. It's a good idea. It's not a simple rant to "raise the minimum wage", but actually empowers employees and ties wages to their productivity. You'd think that all progressives would support a plan like this. Creative thinking is what we need, not the same old rhetoric and battles that leave us in a stalemate with Congress over the minimum wage. Good job Hilliary!

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/hillary-unveils-profit-sharing-tax-plan_992005.html

Hillary Clinton has unveiled a "profit sharing" tax plan. The details of the plan have been published on her website.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/07/27/hillary-clinton-rewarding-america-workers/KHHgDmkMOYYPnHPHmQw5nJ/story.html

Profit sharing is a win-win

IMAGINE HUNDREDS OF employees walking off the job not to protest against their boss, but to save his job. That’s not something you see every day — yet it’s exactly what workers at Market Basket supermarkets across New England did last year for Arthur T. Demoulas. What explains this unusual loyalty?

Market Basket is one of a growing number of companies that are prospering by viewing workers as assets to be developed rather than costs to be cut. Research out of MIT has shown that well-paid and well-trained employees tend to work more efficiently, stay on the job longer, and provide better customer service. So investing in employees is not just the right thing to do — it’s smart economics.


At Market Basket, the centerpiece of this approach has been a generous profit-sharing program that gives all employees a stake in the company’s success and puts much-needed extra money in their pockets as well. At a time when paychecks have barely budged in real terms for most Americans, a boost from profit sharing can make a real difference for families dealing with rising costs of everything from prescription drugs to childcare. And, as we saw when Demoulas was temporarily ousted as Market Basket CEO, profit sharing can build real loyalty as well.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/247665-hillary-touts-profit-sharing-in-economic-plan

Veering left, Hillary Clinton puts profit-sharing in economic plan

Hillary Clinton on Monday called wage inequality the “defining economic challenge of our time” as she unveiled a wide-reaching economic platform that veers toward the liberal policies championed by her main rival, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

“As the shadow of crisis recedes and longer-term challenges come into focus, I believe we have to build a growth and fairness economy,” Clinton said at The New School in New York City.

“You can’t have one without the other. We can’t create enough jobs and new businesses without more growth.”

Clinton's 40-minute speech provided the clearest look yet at the economic proposals she aims to champion while running for the White House.

[AgingAmerican]

132. Hillary's work for free

Solve the case....

[Smarmie Doofus]

23. And here's what I read:

>>>The bill he introduced calls for raising the federal wage from its current $7.25 an hour to $9 in 2016; $10.50 in 2017; $12 in 2018; and $13.50 in 2019 — before hitting $15 in 2020. >>>>

That's $15 per hr in 2020.

As you know, we're in 2015. No?

[Agschmid]

27. Yes it is indeed 2015...

You caught me?

Wouldn't it be great to see people do it ahead of time? I mean heck nationwide companies are increasing the wage well before its required...

I expect the same from all the candidates who want to increase the minimum wage... NONE currently deliver.

These are supposed to be the best of the best, and yet here we are paying $10.10 an hour. In Massachusetts even entry level retail jobs pay more than that.

[bvf]

30. Seems the OP's point

was to insinuate that Sanders is somehow being hypocritical. We just saw that blown out of the water.

Leave the goalposts alone.

[Agschmid]

35. I'm not sure it was "blown out of the water"...

What's holiding any of our candidates back from walking the talk here?

Sure he may propose a bill with more longer term increases, but what's stopping him from doing it today? Again even major companies are stretching their base pay without legislation at this point, the minimum is SO far behind that's is rediculous.

[bvf]

45. The "talk" per Sanders calls

for an increase in the minimum wage to $9.00 in 2016.

He's already paying his lowest-paid (non-volunteer) more than that. You may as well criticize Clinton for not paying her staff a minimum of $30/hr, because "wouldn't that be nice if she did?"

What does Clinton think the minimum wage should be, again? Has she evolved beyond the slippery "living wage" thing yet? I haven't checked in a few days...

[Agschmid]

47. FWIW... I'm critizing them all.

Just remember Walmart and many other national chains are already paying a base pay of $10.00, we as a nation should push for more than $9.00... Which is not a livable wage.

And no I don't think she has given a rate she supports yet.

[bvf]

28. Excellent point. n/t

[AllFieldsRequired]

126. Excellent point. I hope Hillary does the same with her staff as to pay.

I think we need to hold both candidates to the standards they lay out.

[BainsBane]

40. That doesn't seem right

It directly conflicts with his stated views. I disagree with the claim that it's a meme or not relevant. It shows if he walks the walk. Thanks for the info.

[stevenleser]

118. Ouch. Well, you know Republicans would use that in a general election. And it would be devastating.

It would really make his $15/hr minimum wage position look hypocritical.

[Cha]

9. Certainly, he puts his money where his mouth is?

[unapatriciated]

13. I campaigned thirty hours a week for Obama

As many do for their candidate of choice. I'm really sick of these type of posts , makes DU suc. Edit to add: for free

[sheshe2]

22. I believe there is a huge difference to being a campaigner..

Which, is volunteered time and a paid intern.

[azurnoir]

96. Hillary Clinton to hire some 'summer fellows' after reports of interns working for free

Hillary Clinton has hired eight “summer fellows” as full-time paid staffers, just weeks after the Guardian revealed that the presidential frontrunner’s campaign was using experienced political operatives as unpaid interns.

The Clinton campaign is adding 20 full-time field organizers in Iowa, seeking to increase her presence and rally Democrats in the crucial caucus state, which she visited on Tuesday as her team acknowledged fears of a better-than-expected showing from the independent challenger Bernie Sanders.

As first reported by the Des Moines Register, eight of those new hires had previously served as full-time “organizing fellows”. In that capacity, fellows performed almost identical duties to field organizers, who do the most basic work on a campaign: recruiting volunteers and endorsements, going door-to-door and calling voters, often outside the confines of a 9-to-5 day job.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/07/hillary-clinton-unpaid-interns-full-time-staff

[1StrongBlackMan]

105. What does that have to do with what Bernie does (doesn't do)? n/t

[azurnoir]

134. Bernie's asking for $15 an hour by 2020 not right now

The bill he introduced calls for raising the federal wage from its current $7.25 an hour to $9 in 2016; $10.50 in 2017; $12 in 2018; and $13.50 in 2019 — before hitting $15 in 2020.

http://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2015/07/27/sanders-touts-15-per-hour-wage-but-doesnt-pay-it

[1StrongBlackMan]

135. Okay; but still ...

what does what HRC does/doesn't do have to do with what Bernie does/doesn't do?

IOW ... Citing to what does what HRC does/doesn't do, does not answer a question about what Bernie does/doesn't do.

[azurnoir]

139. why do you seem so bothered about a comparison between candidates?

it is primary season after all and the question about Bernie had already been answered

[1StrongBlackMan]

140. I'm not bothered ... Just curious. n/t

[George II]

24. Volunteers are volunteers, paid employees are different....

....they should be paid reasonable wages. Many are doing it for income.

I volunteered for about 9 hours a week (three nights after work 45 minutes from headquarters) from early September right through until the polls closed on Election Day (12 hours that day) I never expected a penny, I even had to pay for my ticket to the Inaugural Ball.

[kenn3d]

41. So in summary then...

Bernie, even with his modest, PAC-less, small-donor only campaign financing ethic, still does indeed pay both interns and staff at well above the current (dismally low) federal minimum wage. Very commendable I'd say.

So I wonder if the OP or any Hillary supporters here would care to refute this MSNBC report saying that HRC expects her interns (even full-time interns) to work for free (you know, as in unpaid, nada, maybe the experience will get hired down the road perhaps). Considering the $ize of her very formidable corporate-backed war chest... Disgraceful seems about the right description for her fair wage policy.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-cycle/watch/hillary-clinton-said-what--484198467702


So if you like eating cooked worms... flame that bait.


Who's your candidate?

[SunSeeker]

25. If you volunteer your time, do campaigns have to report that as a donation?

For example, are unskilled interns reported as donations of $15 per each hour worked, or more if the work is more expensive, such as volunteer lawyers?

[Agschmid]

32. I don't believe so.

[SunSeeker]

37. I was wondering, because there's that individual donation limit of $2,400 or something like that.

I run no risk of ever hitting that in cash, but may hit it in terms of volunteer time.

[Agschmid]

38. Same here.

My much $$$ to donate on my end, and even if I did I'd much rather give time.

[BainsBane]

48. No, time is not money

I've volunteered on many campaigns, and it never is counted as a donation.

[Scootaloo]

33. I heard $12 an hour. Which is $12 an hour more than any other campaign's interns. n/t

[Agschmid]

39. It appears the senate Interns get that rate...

Which yes is more than some senate inters by $12.00... Some are still paid $0.00.

[Thinkingabout]

34. It is a valid point, put your money where your mouth is.

[99th_Monkey]

44. According to WSJ

"Mrs. Clinton [has] spent nearly $3.7 million on campaign salaries; Mr. Sanders, $112,000."
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/07/17/in-this-money-race-bernie-sanders-wins/

Sanders' campaign is topsy-turvy as in "bottom-heavy", i.e. much more benefiting from
volunteer and/or people working for stipend-wages, not because Bernie's a cheap-skate, b
ut because they are genuinely excited and willing to make the dollars they have stretch
as far as possible.

Rather like I did with my first wife, in 1968 Primary, we walked into the Robert Kennedy
headquarters in Portland OR and said, "I quit school & my wife quit her job. We're here
for the duration of the campaign to do whatever we can. You guys can either pay our
rent or we'll sleep on the headquarters floor as needed."

The Kennedy staffer said, "well, let's see what you can do" I set up their phone bank from
scratch and my wife worked on op-eds and press relations. We never slept on the campaign
floor. After Bobby narrowly lost, the campaign flew us to LA expenses paid, to work the
home stretch of the Calif. primary, where he won.

My point is, some things money can't buy (or shouldn't have to), and loyal dedicated
campaign workers -- in the kind of race Bernie's running -- tend to fall in that category.

[BainsBane]

46. Reminds me of the small businesses

who say they can't afford an increase in the minimum wage. That response is generally not met favorably here. Why should that suffice as an excuse for Sanders, who is supposed to be better?

[99th_Monkey]

51. Bernie needs no "excuse" for anything & he's got nothing to apologize for

I'm not going to waste any more time/energy on your tawdry insinuations.
Bernie's got more courage & integrity in his little finger than any POTUS
candidate I've seen in a long long time, and he's got a dedicated following
to prove it.

[BainsBane]

52. I see. I was hoping principle meant something here

I have discovered there is no issue that actually matters: not guns, Israel, Super Pacs, PACs, Black Lives Matter and leftist activism, and now living wages. All must be subsumed for Bernie.

Devotion to a politician is not a cause, and it's not principled. It's about one man's career, nothing more.

[99th_Monkey]

55. .

[BainsBane]

58. I'm not the one engaged in intellectual and moral gymastics

In order to promote one man above workers and above the citizens of the nation. I do not insist a politician is too important to be criticized or that he should not be expected to abide by what he preaches. You keep up the empty graphics. What else can you do? You have no argument other than Bernie is better and can do what he damn well pleases. That's a winning campaign strategy: "Hey, little people. Fall in line behind your Bernie because he is your superior. Don't expect him to walk the walk. Just do what you're told because you don't count; he does."

Yeah, that's a real successful strategy.

[ibegurpard]

56. I don't know...

Seems to me that trying to make make specious claims about hypocrisy against someone who is forcefully calling for something you say you support calls into question your level of support for that thing.

[BainsBane]

59. Let me get this straight

If I truly supported an increase in the minimum wage, I would not object to workers being paid below that wage? Is that your argument?

[ibegurpard]

67. No

If you truly supported raising the minimum wage you wouldn't be trying to use it as an excuse for a lame effort to create some hypocrisy argument over someone calling for a higher minimum wage. By the way the federal minimum wage is 7.25. Did you know that?

[BainsBane]

76. The VT minimum wage is $9.15 an hour

It's not a lame excuse. I have been told time and time again that Bernie has so much more integrity than other politicians. If that is true, he should be acting on his convictions, walking the walk.

All the candidates are proposing an increase in the min wage. Bernie isn't even the only one to propose $15 an hour. O'Malley proposes that same level. So I don't need to excuse his paying workers less than that amount in order to support a minimum wage. In fact, one doesn't even need to excuse it in order to vote for Sanders, since there are plenty of policies and actions by Clinton I don't excuse. Voting for a politician is something I do. It's not a religion.

Sanders says he wants a $15 minimum wage, but what plan does he have of getting the GOP congress to approve that? You know the House at least will remain GOP, if not both the House and Senate. I can say I would like a $25 an hour wage, and it doesn't mean it can become law. What I actually want is a minimum wage indexed to the cost of living so that every increase doesn't have to get by a recalcitrant congress. I rather see a $12 indexed minimum than a $15 rate that won't increase for another 20 years.

I am supposed to take Bernie's word for what he says he will do, despite no discussion of how he will implement it. Yet he doesn't even implement that wage in his own campaign. We now in this country have employers who are paying their employees that much, who have cut their own salaries to pay workers a living wage. The poster above says Bernie can't afford it, despite $17 million plus in donations. Lots of businesses say they can't afford it either, some of which have net worth far, far less than $17 million. That is in fact the argument against increasing the min wage, and now we hear it as a defense for why Bernie shouldn't have to pay a higher rate.

I don't take anything he or any pol says on face value, and I see no reason Bernie deserves more credibility than any other. I've seen inaccurate statements from him about Super Pacs, his PAC fined for failing to comply with the already meager campaign finance restrictions, and now canned explanations for immigration policy blaming the "Kochs," as though that were enough to explain 100 years worth of US border policy regarding Mexican migration for agricultural labor. So no, I don't believe him superior to other pols or most importantly to the citizens he represents. He has to earn every last vote. That is something people here forget. They think he is owed people's votes. No politician is owed a damn thing.

[beam me up scottie]

78. "Interns on Sanders’ Senate office staff are paid $12 an hour...

Interns on Sanders’ Senate office staff are paid $12 an hour, Briggs said. That’s more than some interns make in Congress. A 2013 report in the Atlantic magazine found that only 35 of the 100 senators paid their interns at all.

Beyond the interns on Sanders’ campaign staff, there’s a wide range of pay. Most workers won’t get rich off the job. Campaign manager Jeff Weaver makes the most, earning $4,934 twice monthly.

Briggs, who is Sanders' Senate spokesman and his campaign spokesman, draws half a salary from both roles, and gets his health coverage through his Senate job. Next month, he said, he will shift to one day a week on the Senate staff.

For campaign workers, Sanders appears to be more generous with health coverage than the average U.S. employer. His July campaign-finance report lists expenditures to Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Vermont to cover employee health insurance. All full-time campaign employees are eligible for coverage on the first of the month following their hire date, Briggs said.

The campaign covers 90 percent of the premium for those making less than $35,500 a year and 80 percent for those making more, Briggs said. According to the Insurance Journal, U.S. employers are contributing an average of 66.4 percent of health premiums this year.

Sounds like he is walking the walk.

But you're just another "Not Good Enough Bernie" DU crusader looking for a reason to scream bloody murder whenever a new meme pops up.

I wonder if y'all realize how boring this is for the rest of us.

Cue the drama.

[artislife]

80. He seems to be a stand up guy

We better think up some more dirt to kick up!

[beam me up scottie]

84. I'm sure the poutrage brigade will find something else.

Anything to distract from the real issues.

Wouldn't want folks to discuss the Keystone Pipeline.

[unapatriciated]

129. It does get old

Will be glad when primaries are over.

[azurnoir]

94. yep he does want a $15.00 an hour minimum by 2020

but it's 2015 and he's already paying his interns more than minimum

Though Elizabeth from Ohio and others Sanders quoted in the email to supporters offered no indication that they'd be happy to wait five years for the $15 an hour, that's what Sanders has proposed. The bill he introduced calls for raising the federal wage from its current $7.25 an hour to $9 in 2016; $10.50 in 2017; $12 in 2018; and $13.50 in 2019 — before hitting $15 in 2020.

http://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2015/07/27/sanders-touts-15-per-hour-wage-but-doesnt-pay-it

[99th_Monkey]

121. Thank you

Someone needed to call this Tempest in a Teapot for what it is.

Thanks for bringing actual numbers to the conversation.

[R B Garr]

124. So Sanders paying less than $15/hr is a "tempest in a teapot"?

I can see why his supporters are getting such a bad online reputation. No one can question him on anything outside his scripted talking points.

[Cha]

90. You have a comprehensive list there, BB, of things that aren't "important"

because .. Bernie.

And, they wouldn't be as note-worthy if he weren't touted to be so perfect and above reproach..

Except, of course, #BlackLivesMatter. That Matters above all.. no matter how many attacks many of his supporters spouted at #BlackLivesMatter Supporters, throughout the net, after they Protested @ Netroots Nation. That was ugly and mean spirited.


Donna NoShock ?@NoShock
#BlackLivesMatter #SayHerName #SandraBland
6:42 AM - 22 Jul 2015
40 40 Retweets 15 15 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/07/22/profit-and-loss-why-blacklivesmatter-matters/

[azurnoir]

138. your link opens with a reminder of the slave days which seems to dovetail with this

Star Member Cha (163,885 posts)
3. #earnthisdamnvoteorlose.. thank you, Hillary for

"Over the weekend, Clinton’s black outreach director, LaDavia Drane, attended the Movement for Black Lives convention in Cleveland. That visit marked the campaign’s first outreach to the movement, which has seen even wider press coverage in the past week after activists disrupted a presidential forum at Netroots Nation.
That protest has been fresh in the minds of presidential campaigns and many of the at least 1,300 attendees — according to organizers — at the weekend’s convention.

A Clinton campaign official on Saturday confirmed to BuzzFeed News that Drane “had one-on-one meetings and group listening sessions to engage stakeholders including ministers, community organizers, elected officials, and other individuals in Cleveland for the Movement for Black Lives.” An Ohio native, Drane engaged people inside the movement and listened to a range of suggestions related to Clinton’s outreach, as well as policy recommendations, the official said."

This is the most important issue.. right now.

Joshua Jackson ?@JoshuaKJackson
Dear White Progressives,

Black people don't HAVE to support Bernie or anyone. You don't own us* & we don't owe you ANYTHING

#BernieSoBlack
6:10 AM - 19 Jul 2015 589 589 Retweets
865 865 favorites

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=476743

* underlining mine for clarity

Are you pushing the idea that Bernie has a slave owner mentality? Or perhaps that his supporter do?

[R B Garr]

120. It's kind of laughable to say a 70-something year old man is courageous

after waiting until others have carved an opening with their personal sacrifices to the party over the years so he can now waltz in and stake a claim. That sounds like an opportunist, not courage. If he's such a revolutionary, he would have been promoting socialism 20 years ago as a Presidential candidate, but he never bothered.

And the "dedicated following" = 60 to 90 days, lol. No one mentioned him before.

[99th_Monkey]

144. So in your book, 70 year-olds can't be courageous? That's just sad, and very revealing.

Try telling that to Jimmy Carter -- is he a 'pure' enough Democrat for you? -- he's 90 and
still kicking ass for truth & justice.

Speaking of good courageous Democrats, they called Bobby Kennedy an "opportunist" too,
for declaring his candidacy in the 1968 Primary against a war-mongering, sitting Democratic
POTUS. And they did it for the same reason you and other Hillary mouthpieces are, because
there was not much else they say on the issues, so they resorted to falsely impugning his
character.

And yes, it is sad that it took Sanders -- an independent who has btw faithfully caucused with
Congressional Dems like forever -- getting into this Primary to demonstrate to voters what
a REAL Democrat in the tradition of FDR, JFK & RFK actually looks and sounds like.

[R B Garr]

150. The subject was Bernie, not 70-year-olds, and it's a laugh to compare

Bernie to Bobby Kennedy. You see, Bernie never even BOTHERED to run before others paved his way because he never wanted to BOTHER with giving up his personal privacy and the other personal sacrifices that other good candidates like Bobby Kennedy had to do along the way. He's had 50 years in politics, and now that others have made the sacrifices that he never BOTHERED with, now he shows up.

He's an opportunist. BTW, how many days have you had the Big Bernie Love? 60 days? 90 days?? Sorry, but not everyone is on his magic carpet ride yet, so deal with it.

Speaking of "issues", you do realize that Jeb Bush is out speaking to the Hispanic community with full 30-minute sessions in Spanish to appeal to that constituency. Yet Bernie can't even deal with the BLM protestors when they were right in front of him. Bernie's "issues" are more than some aggrieved economic stock market losers. Let's hope he realizes it and expands his canned talking points.

[99th_Monkey]

154. You're right, I suspect ..

You're probably correct about one thing: that Bernie has seen up-close &
long-recognized how unrelentingly brutal & ugly presidential politicking can get, and has
been reluctant to run himself, in part because he's no spoiler who's going to run as
an Independent against the same Democratic party he caucuses with in the GE, and in part
because he values his low-profile status, his frugal Vermont life-style, and being able to be
with his family in relative peace & safety.

I see nothing wrong with THIS ^ yet you manage to perversely wring an ugly insinuation
from it, that he's been 'kickin-back' enjoying The Good Life in Vermont while the nation
was begging him to run for POTUS. You conveniently ignore Bernie's long and distinguished
Progressive record of accomplishments in Congress, evidenced by his strong ratings from solidly
progressive groups like NAACP and ACLU, or if you do notice his record, it's only to trash it
as "old news", or somehow inadequate or irrelevant.

Please tell us when "should" Bernie have run for President again? You don't say,
so I'm left wondering exactly which Presidential Primary race Bernie "should" have entered.
Should Bernie have run against Jimmy Carter? McGovern? ..or maybe against Bill Clinton?
or is it against Obama & Hillary in 2008? And if he had run against any of these Democrats,
would you have supported him then? I think not.

But you don't say exactly, so we're left to only speculate. Can you clarify this?

You said: "...now that (other Democrats) have made the sacrifices that he never BOTHERED
with, now he shows up." with bells on his toes, an "opportunist .. taking advantage"of other
Democrat's sacrifices. Taa-taa! Make way for 3rd Way darling HRC who can do no wrong,
"damn-it, it's, her turn", she's "inevitable", and on so goes, and so it goes. But it doesn't wash.

-------------------------------------------------------- * -----------------------------------------

Yes, Bernie is pissed that his country -- under the 'leadership' of the GOP and their 3rd-way
Democratic enablers -- is quickly & all-too-quietly becoming the United Corporations of America.
Because Bernie's kept his conscience and integrity intact over the decades, he's decided finally
that he can no longer ignore the sorry-ass trajectory our nation is taking, he can't trust how 2016
will play out if he doesn't at least run and see what happens ... because he knows that otherwise,
2016 will turn out to be yet more of the same ol', same ol', rinse & repeat, 3rd-Way DINO shoot-low-
then-'negotiate' bullshit that pretty much everyone sees through by now. Exhibit A: Bernie's
phenomenal crowds. This is what accounts for Bernie's (who knew?) sudden popularity, record
crowds that NO OTHER CANDIDATE (most notably HRC) is able to draw -- or even come close to
-- at this point in the Primary season.

Thank you for reminding me exactly why I'm 110% supporting Bernie for POTUS.

[R B Garr]

155. LOL, all this from someone with what...60 days..90 days Bernie love?

But now you're a Bernie expert.

It all sounds so phony.

Bernie fled New York in the 70's because he didn't like people. OBVIOUSLY he wanted out of the big pond that was New York/politics to kick back in deserted Vermont. OBVIOUSLY he didn't want to be bothered discussing his illegitimate son or his draft dodger status. He didn't want to have his privacy invaded which is usually the number one deciding factor -- whether someone wants to go through that invasive process, and he OBVIOUSLY never wanted to bother.

But now that others have broken down barriers, he wants folks like you to pay his way.

And one of the major reasons I don't care for him now is because of people like you -- the phony love of the supporters who never even mentioned him until about 90 days ago max.

[99th_Monkey]

156. OMG. I had NO idea

how desperate HRC supporters are becoming for something, anything -- no matter
how outlandish, absurd or twisted it is -- to try to diminish and besmirch Sanders,
hoping against hope to hound him out of the race.

Sorry, no cigar here.

You guys must think Bernie will soon become so unstoppable, that you're forced to throw
every sorry-ass meme you can up against the wall, to see if even a little bit of it sticks.

I take this as a great omen indeed for my candidate.

PS: I've been following Sanders and how he speaks the truth and lets chips fall however
they may, for over a decade, at least.

So much for your "60-90 day" meme. Still no cigar.

[R B Garr]

157. Haha, this is so fucking predictable. And so lame.

Yes, the whole world MUST be so jealous of a politician in his twilight years who makes canned speeches. There are more people in Long Beach, CA than in Vermont, with a lot more diversity, so hearing about a rural state with 600,000 people doesn't really mean a lot. The Mayor of Wasilla anyone?

And YOU are the pathetic supporters who are getting a nasty online reputation which is becoming an internet meme, so YOU must be the "scared" and insecure ones, using your own standards.

And YOU are the pathetic supporters who put Bernie down. If he's so great as you say after adoring him for 30/60/90 days, then others will gladly be supporting him, too. You are the insecure one who have to browbeat people into staying within your acceptable talking points and who can't take even a scintilla of questioning. The real world isn't going to put up with your severe limitations.

[99th_Monkey]

160. Your unabated vacuousness is duly noted.

You've successfully driven your 'case' for HRC 6-feet underground.
Next stop, China.

Good job sparky.

[R B Garr]

161. More inanity. How predictable and childish. Everything about Bernie

eventually comes down to Waaaah, Hillary supporters bad, Waaaah. BLM protestors, Waaaaaah. Bernie must never be questioned. edit, there was a time even Reagan's divorced status was an item for discussion, but Bernie must never be questioned.

At least the rest of the world does not have your pathetic limitations.

You've never answered how long your Bernie love has been...you must be up to 90 whole days now.

[99th_Monkey]

164. My Bernie-love's been a-brewing for well over a decade now

1992 - The Disaster that is Reaganomics!!

&index=1&list=PLGBT-w-RQ86MUVRDQEJ2V4YFv8nePKh65

1997 - Takes Criminals Greenspan, Rubin, and Summers to Task

&index=2&list=PLGBT-w-RQ86MUVRDQEJ2V4YFv8nePKh65

2010 - The Wealthy's war on the poor - income inequality & unfair tax policy

For most of the earlier period, HRC was negotiating away any chance for meaningful health care reform for the next
15 years, cheering-on Bill's "welfare reform" and passage of NAFTA.

[R B Garr]

165. LOL, Bernie was never mentioned here. More phoniness.

This is the kind of phoniness I'm talking about. Bernie is an opportunist.

Reality: When the Clinton's were fighting for the White House, Bernie was hiding out in Vermont. Now that barriers have been broken for him, he wants people like you to pay his way.

There was a time that Reagan was considered damaged goods as a possible candidate because he was divorced. That's the reality of Presidential politics, not the phony retro Bernie love.

[99th_Monkey]

166. Bernie wasn't "hiding out" in Vermont in these videos

He was ... oh never mind.

Trying to talk with you is a pointless waist of my time.

Good bye! Oh and good luck spouting that 3rd Way nastiness. It's not going to win
you or your candidate any friends or supporters, so please do carry on. just not
with me anymore.

[sheshe2]

83. Ouch!

[99th_Monkey]

146. Please see

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=480985

[ibegurpard]

49. Oh you object to paying people a reasonable wage?

For the work they do? So do the Republicans...

[sheshe2]

50. HA! Kick!

[Cheese Sandwich]

53. Crap. Now I have to start a thread about Hillary's unpaid interns.

sucks.

[delrem]

57. At least a few of them are seeming to admit that economic justice matters a small bit,

even if that small bit goes no further than posting a contextless hit piece.
That's an improvement over nothing, don't you think?

[beam me up scottie]

62. Think about how hard this is to criticize while trying to look like you care about poor people.

Someone else posted that last week but it applies here too.

Looks like poor people are just political footballs on DU.

[delrem]

66. Stuff like this explains it:

[beam me up scottie]

70. Smarmie Doofus explained Bernie's plan above:

The bill he introduced calls for raising the federal wage from its current $7.25 an hour to $9 in 2016; $10.50 in 2017; $12 in 2018; and $13.50 in 2019 — before hitting $15 in 2020.

That's $15 per hr in 2020.

But that didn't stop the hypocrites from piling on.

It didn't even slow them down.

How many of them criticized Hillary for not supporting a federal $15/hr wage?

[ibegurpard]

72. I don't give a shit what Hillary pays her interns

[beam me up scottie]

73. Um, neither do I.

I'm not the one making a bfd out of this, that would be the op and other HC supporters who are yucking it up in this thread like it's the funniest thing they ever heard.

[840high]

65. Don't forget the $600 haircut

she's getting this week. She's one of us.

[840high]

63. Why don't you google it.

[artislife]

82. Because innuendo in an OP title is so satisfying! nt

[840high]

145. Yes. Transparent and immature, too.

[beam me up scottie]

88. Does anyone know how much Hillary pays her Keystone lobbyist?:

Last month Hillary hired a major Keystone XL lobbyist to her campaign

Hillary Clinton's Newest Consultant Was A Major Keystone Lobbyist
Posted: 06/25/2015 12:34 pm EDT Updated: 06/25/2015 2:59 pm EDT

The newest hire for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign is a longtime strategist who played a key role in her 2008 primary defeat while working for then-Sen. Barack Obama.

He’s also a Washington lobbyist who lobbied the State Department -- led, at the time, by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton -- on behalf of the company seeking to build the controversial Keystone XL pipeline.

...

Berman lobbied the House, the Senate and multiple federal agencies. In the second and fourth quarters of 2010 and the first quarter of 2011, the State Department was among the agencies that he lobbied. Clinton was running the department at the time.

...

There is also concern about Clinton’s position on the matter. Because the pipeline would cross an international border, the State Department is charged with deciding whether it would be in the national interest to grant a permit to the project. While secretary of state in 2010, Clinton said the department was "inclined" to sign off on the pipeline. On the campaign trail, however, Clinton has declined to comment on Keystone one way or the other. And since then, there have been accusations that she's been the object of influence peddling. Two Canadian banks "tightly connected" to promoting the pipeline have paid her $1.6 million for just eight speeches.

I mean, as long as we're talking money and campaigns...

[ibegurpard]

98. OK I get it now

Apparently there was some controversy about Hillary interns working for free. That doesn't interest me nor does this and it doesn't change the fact that the minimum wage is too low and even 15 dollars an hour is not a living wage almost anywhere in the country.

[Vinca]

102. Have someone ask him. He's not afraid to answer questions.

[Zorra]

109. Far less than wealthy private corporate interests are paying Hillary.

I guarantee it.

[BooScout]

110. Do as I say .....

....not as I do. A new Bernie meme.

[William769]

114. You are absolutely correct.

See all he deflection going on in this thread? It would be funny if it wasn't so damn sad.

Well, my job is done here, must go get ready for my trip.

[ibegurpard]

123. Hillary pays interns nothing...

And Bernie pays the $12 an hour which is not as much as he wants to eventually raise the minimum wage to ( and which still isn't enough)...
Take your whiny little gotcha moment to a group that cares...if you can find one.

[BooScout]

133. wow

Just wow on the personal attack.

[ibegurpard]

149. we're you clutching your pearls as you typed that?

Spare me the fauxrage.

[cyberswede]

125. Like this?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-campaign-hires-unpaid-labor-tackles-youth/story?id=31830227

[seaglass]

112. The good and the bad. Disappointing that he is not paying minimum $15/hr - I don't think this looks

good for him and see no reason why he isn't paying it. On the good side, health benefits are included for ft staff and it looks like he is paying a high percentage towards that.

[LondonReign2]

117. Thank you for your heartfelt concern for American workers

[Maedhros]

127. Russell's Teapot, my friend.

Burden of proof is on the claimant.

You think Bernie is underpaying his staff? Then you must present evidence supporting your claim. Otherwise you are just throwing mud and hoping it sticks.

[R B Garr]

128. Thanks for this thread, William. It shows how Bernie supporters

are hypocritical if something about Bernie is taken out of context or even challenged at all outside his scripted talking points, yet the same BS gang on this thread does nothing but post non sequiturs and out-of-context points about Hillary.

This was very well done.

[stevenleser]

131. This really was a dumb mistake by Bernie and his campaign. It completely undercuts his message.

And even if he fixes it now, it's still a thing.

[ibegurpard]

148. you're funny

What's really dumb is Hillary not paying her interns AT ALL. Try to make an issue out of this. I beg you.

[stevenleser]

158. What's funny is that you don't see it. This will be in the top 3 of items Republicans would

Attack him with if he made it to the G.E.

And Clinton having unpaid interns doesn't have that affect on her because this isn't a core part of her message.

[Trajan]

151. Finally ... It was a while coming, but well deserved ...

Goodbye ...

[arcane1]

152. Scrape that barrel!

[George II]

168. I'm sure he isn't paying a minimum of $15 an hour.