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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 06:00 AM Jul 2015

Clinton: I’ll fight for the modern family





Clinton: I’ll fight for the modern family

Democratic presidential candidate focuses on achievement gap, middle-class economics in Carroll event
By DOUGLAS BURNS, Staff Writer



" “She promotes human rights and dignity whether it is a debt-strapped college student, parents of a child with disabilities or a good old-fashioned small-business person trying to make a living and be fair with their employees. Her message is universal, and sound bites don’t do her justice.” " Kathy Miller, chairwoman of Guthrie County Democratic Party




Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton focuses heavily on social justice issues during a speech in Carroll Sunday aftternoon.
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July 27, 2015

Carroll

Hillary Clinton says the next president of the United States must understand modern America, the changing nature of families, strong role of women, and use the Oval Office to bridge what she called an achievement gap so all young people toe the same starting line early in school.

“Our families are different today than they were 50 years ago,” Clinton said.

Clinton, the Democratic front-runner for the White House in Iowa and nationally, spoke to an invited crowd of more than 80 people Sunday afternoon south of Carroll at the home of Dr. Steven and Jill Kraus. Democrats from across western and central Iowa were at the event, with Guthrie, Greene, Polk and Adams counties among those represented. State Senate Majority Leader Michael Gronstal, D-Council Bluffs, attended, and earned a shout-out from Clinton, who referenced Carroll County as something of an “ancestral home” for him with his connection to Carroll County State Bank and the local Gronstal family.

Clinton drilled into economics issues quickly in a speech calling for an increase to the minimum wage — with the door open to a geographically based scale with the wage floor being set higher in certain cities than rural areas. Clinton said her administration would incent profit-sharing by corporations for its employees, and aggressively support Main Street entrepreneurship, adding, “I want to be the small-business president.”

“No. 1, we’ve got to get the economy working for everybody,” Clinton said........................


http://www.carrollspaper.com/Content/Local-News-Archive/Politics/Article/Clinton-I-ll-fight-for-the-modern-family/1/335/20518
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Clinton: I’ll fight for the modern family (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2015 OP
You forgot a bit JackInGreen Jul 2015 #1
I was gonna say... Roland99 Jul 2015 #2
Don't forget Nanny! Divernan Jul 2015 #4
+1 azmom Jul 2015 #20
So when the Hillary Hate can be tucked away, I took this to be a play on the show Modern Family. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #29
Well don't I JackInGreen Jul 2015 #38
You think that is something, wait til Dad gets home.... artislife Jul 2015 #42
the 'modern family' lives with trade deals, insourcing and outsourcing HFRN Jul 2015 #3
The 'modern family'…. zentrum Jul 2015 #5
yup nt HFRN Jul 2015 #6
& too often welcomes them back in flag-draped caskets or severely injured Divernan Jul 2015 #8
Hedge Fund Mgrs? Insurance Execs? Gamecock Lefty Jul 2015 #7
You're the only one who referred to Hillary as "working for hedge fund managers" Divernan Jul 2015 #9
Well let's not let him be the only one el_bryanto Jul 2015 #16
'Bernistas'? JackInGreen Jul 2015 #14
LOL My daughter is a barista and a Bernista azmom Jul 2015 #21
A Mixter Bernista JackInGreen Jul 2015 #22
I like how you think. azmom Jul 2015 #25
what? no fighting for the post-modern family? Javaman Jul 2015 #10
.......... Hotler Jul 2015 #11
Hey, Hill! Strongly endorsing a $15 hour minimum wage is where you should start! Divernan Jul 2015 #12
The "modern families" of her invited guests at a closed fund raiser? Divernan Jul 2015 #13
I know we're considered heaven05 Jul 2015 #15
Are you over Macho Grande? 4Q2u2 Jul 2015 #33
Good post:Add Fallujah/depleted uranium to Vietnam/Agent Orange Divernan Jul 2015 #35
How much did the 80 people pay to hear her speak? Are they Autumn Jul 2015 #17
Cost of admission: $1,000/$2,700/$10,000/$27,000 Divernan Jul 2015 #30
Okay there it is. Autumn Jul 2015 #31
What does that mean? hootinholler Jul 2015 #18
psst! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #41
But doesn't family follow marriage? hootinholler Jul 2015 #43
Unfortunately I don't follow my own advice. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #44
are there any democratic candidates who won't? Doctor_J Jul 2015 #19
I don't think there are any Dem candidates who'll say they won't. winter is coming Jul 2015 #32
Modern Family = "Corporate Family" NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #23
Karma Chameleon azmom Jul 2015 #24
Pity the poor unpaid intern who came up w/using meme: "modern family" Divernan Jul 2015 #26
There is a great show called Modern Family Sheepshank Jul 2015 #28
Barring the anti Hillary swarming by Bernistas Sheepshank Jul 2015 #27
Ah, but she didn't specifically mention black people! Doctor_J Jul 2015 #34
+/\+/\ a gazillion ! ! ! Divernan Jul 2015 #36
She was speaking on economics...of value to all races Sheepshank Jul 2015 #37
But when Sanders does that, he's "racist" n/t eridani Jul 2015 #48
K&R ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #39
The geographically based scale is a crock. LiberalAndProud Jul 2015 #40
Do you see what I hear? GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #45
She's damned if she does, Jamaal510 Jul 2015 #46
You better count on it that! TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #47

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
1. You forgot a bit
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 07:02 AM
Jul 2015

"I'll fight for the modern family. (tm.) some rights reserved, only valid where profit margin provides, promises made in regards to 'family' or 'modern' are subject to sponsor change at any time, some restrictions may apply, see legislature for details"




....now please don't beat me for making fun of her, I make fun of everyone that gives me a chance.
(I can only really get away with bernies hair so far, sorry)

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
2. I was gonna say...
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 07:14 AM
Jul 2015

just what exactly is this "modern family"? Hedge-fund manager and his family? Insurance exec and his family?

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
4. Don't forget Nanny!
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 08:07 AM
Jul 2015

All One Percent kids have Nannys. Of course, employing Nannys reeks of privilege - so Nannys are typically kept on the down low by the very wealthy on public occasions. But you don't seriously think One Percent kids are in day care while Daddy is running the hedge fund and Mom is private-jetting it to international meetings and high society weddings in London. As opposed to Latch Key kids, who are on their own while Single Mom's at one of her two jobs.

So the word "modern" ranked well with the focus group? Suitably vague and therfore easily evolvable?

a person who advocates or practices a departure from traditional styles or values

of or relating to the present or recent times as opposed to the remote past

There are 2 subgroups of "modern" families, and they are defined by which side of the widening income gap in which they are located. Those with an ever increasing net worth and those who have ever diminishing income, hopes & dreams, expectations. I won't even mention "savings" or investments, because those are things of the past for the majority of Americans. If the bankers/Wall Street gets their obscenely greedy hands on social security investments through privatization, they will use transactional fees & maintenance charges to milk that dry too. George Carlin got it right - they are after our social security.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
29. So when the Hillary Hate can be tucked away, I took this to be a play on the show Modern Family.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:24 AM
Jul 2015

Modern Family, is well different than Archie Bunker's family.

With all the snide swarming below, it seems like the Bernie crowd are fighting to find any word they can bash Hillary over. This particular meme is one of the silliest yet. You can try and laugh it off as a joke but you also made sure you were first in to respond.

You and you ilk feed a swarm of bitter people who cannot seem to leave acerbic statements alone for just one thread...ever. Nothin constructive, just trotting out the same old unproven points. And heaven help us if all you can come up with is Bernie's hair as an equality qualifier for jokes.

The reality is that today's family does face challenges that are different when Mrs. Cleaver stayed home and was able to raise a family, obedient to the one bread winner in the house.

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
3. the 'modern family' lives with trade deals, insourcing and outsourcing
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 07:52 AM
Jul 2015

whereas the 'traditional family' was more economically secure.

so in that context, yes, I believe she will fight for the 'modern family'

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
5. The 'modern family'….
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 08:12 AM
Jul 2015

…also sends its sons, daughters, dads and moms off to unnecessary wars.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
8. & too often welcomes them back in flag-draped caskets or severely injured
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 08:17 AM
Jul 2015

Last edited Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:00 AM - Edit history (1)

which means a lifetime of fighting to get VA medical care, and transporting them to and from same, not to mention the PTSD after-effects.

Gamecock Lefty

(700 posts)
7. Hedge Fund Mgrs? Insurance Execs?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 08:15 AM
Jul 2015

So I assume the crack pot shot about Hillary working for hedge fund managers is supposed to make me vote for Sanders? Or maybe the slam about her working for insurance execs will make me change my mind and support Sanders? All hail, King Bernie?

Not happening!

Whenever Hillary is mentioned on DU the Hillary-hating Bernistas come out in full force with words such as Wall Street, oligarchy, corporatist Dem, insurance, hedge fund, etc. What you don’t realize is such comments make some of us (speaking for myself) dig in even deeper.

RAISE HILL 2016!

By the way, she looks very nice in that picture.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
9. You're the only one who referred to Hillary as "working for hedge fund managers"
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 08:21 AM
Jul 2015

or "King Bernie". Quite revealing.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
16. Well let's not let him be the only one
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:07 AM
Jul 2015

Hillary Clinton, whatever her many other worthy qualities, identifies with the desires of Wall Street; she has no history of standing up to them, and a long history of supporting and agreeing with them. In that sense she's clearly been working for hedge fund managers; she does what they want. She keeps derivatives out of an open market or out of regulation.

Bryant

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
14. 'Bernistas'?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 08:48 AM
Jul 2015

I can't tell if we sound like terrorists or starbucks employees, but I'll take it as a compliment in either case.
I make fun of everyone I can, it's not my fault she makes it so...damned....easy.
I don't expect you to vote for bernie (i'd really like you to, but I wouldn't ever expect you to), but to engage with the rest of us and laugh a little, take a breath.
If you want to qualify any of what's been said as 'Hate' I think you've got some mistaken definitions.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
21. LOL My daughter is a barista and a Bernista
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:48 AM
Jul 2015

She'll get a kick out of that one. She is also a mexican and a hipster or a Mixter.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
12. Hey, Hill! Strongly endorsing a $15 hour minimum wage is where you should start!
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 08:36 AM
Jul 2015

Last edited Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:19 AM - Edit history (1)

She won't commit to supporting $15/hour minimum wage because, you know, the cost of living varies across the country. OK. So with a 38 hour week - cause the corporate assholes won't hire people for 40 hours because then they'd have to include benefits, sick time, paid vacation, health insurance, etc., in the pay package - so a 38 hour week X $15/hour is a whopping $570 a week.

Based on 4.3 weeks per month, that's a magnanimous $2,450/month - before federal, state anand local income taxes,or FICA withholding, with NO health insurance, no paid sick time (and you could still lose your job if you don't show up because you or your kid falls ill).

So, apparently, if you are fortunate to live in say, Bumfu*k, Oklahoma or Outer Armpit, Arkansas, as opposed to NYC, LA, San Francisco or other urban areas with sky high housing costs, AND have no medical conditions, or car payments, auto repairs, dental or eyeglass costs, or student loan debt, AND then get paid the overwhelmingly magnanimous wage of $15 an hour, it will be "Oh, break out the caviar and champagne, no, make that chitlins' & moonshine, honey - we're livin' high on the hog now - we're on easy street for sure!"

Anyone who begrudges any worker ANYWHERE in this country from being paid a minimum wage of $15 an hour is so out of touch with financial realities, it's almost unbelievable.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
13. The "modern families" of her invited guests at a closed fund raiser?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 08:42 AM
Jul 2015

From the OP link:

Clinton spoke to an invited crowd of more than 80 people.


Why waste her time with those pesky unemployed, underemployed, too-financially-strapped-to afford-political-contributions families.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
15. I know we're considered
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 08:55 AM
Jul 2015

Last edited Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:15 PM - Edit history (1)

disposables, but what about us retired "family" members? Is she going to take care of creepublican efforts to dismantle our "entitlements"? Social Security, VA benefits for us veterans(vietnam-'agent orange') considered an "entitlement" by creepublicans? Is Medicare going to still be there to take care of us "disposables? These all beg an answer? Taking care of the generation(s) struggling with the creepublican forced hardships is laudable and necessary. Yet I hope she doesn't forget that she is part of the disposable generation, although won't be, not as a 1%er, as are not my(our generations) "family members". Really worried...

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
33. Are you over Macho Grande?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:38 AM
Jul 2015

Well if Bush would have been able to win the Texas Air War, I bet us vets would be getting a better "entitlement".




Divernan

(15,480 posts)
35. Good post:Add Fallujah/depleted uranium to Vietnam/Agent Orange
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:48 AM
Jul 2015
Although Iraqi civilians have born the brunt of this awful weapon, American soldiers that served in the Gulf and Iraq War are also suffering from the fallout of depleted uranium. This issue is discussed in-depth by the Campaign Against Depleted Uranium, which campaigns to "ban on the use of uranium in all conventional weapons and weapon systems and for monitoring, health care, compensation and environmental remediation for communities affected by their use."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-considine/us-depleted-uranium-as-ma_b_3812888.html

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
17. How much did the 80 people pay to hear her speak? Are they
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:07 AM
Jul 2015

this modern family of which she speaks? My questions are moot. The one's named on the guest list don't sound much like the new struggling modern families.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
30. Cost of admission: $1,000/$2,700/$10,000/$27,000
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:29 AM
Jul 2015

She's holding these "Conversations with Hillary" private fundraisers at private estates around the country. Here were the charges for the one she appeared at about a mile from my house. Her host has a net worth of $9.8 BILLION, and was the honored guest of Pennsyslvania arch-conservative GOP Senator Toomey at Netanyahu's address to the U.S. Senate.

The “Conversations with Hillary” fundraiser, expected to draw about 100 to 125 attendees, requested a minimum contribution of $1,000 per person, according to the email invitation Clinton's campaign finance team issued.

Clinton's fundraising blitz comes as a new Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll shows her numbers sagging in several key states and her favorability falling. Guests shelling out $2,700 get a photo with Clinton. Individuals who bundle supporters to raise $10,000 become event co-hosts. For $27,000, they get to be event hosts and secure membership in the campaign's Hillstarters program.


: http://triblive.com/politics/politicalheadlines/8761531-74/clinton-campaign-fundraiser#ixzz3geVS2ujZ

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
18. What does that mean?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:07 AM
Jul 2015

Fighting for the modern family?

What sort of modern family? The one where a parent is wasting away in the prison industrial complex? The one where both parents have to work and many are working multiple jobs and still can't provide? The one where her support of DOMA would not have been possible?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
41. psst!
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 04:41 PM
Jul 2015

You're not supposed to mention DOMA or her opposition to lgbt rights during her last campaign.

Because...ancient history.


hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
43. But doesn't family follow marriage?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 05:17 PM
Jul 2015

Something about being up a tree, k i s s i n g...



I guess I've been thinking wrong about Inevitable Hillary. It doesn't mean she will be the candidate inevitably, but that she will support a position once it becomes inevitable.

Thanks for the pro-tip!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
44. Unfortunately I don't follow my own advice.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 05:22 PM
Jul 2015

Her passionate defense of "traditional" marriage isn't something I'm willing to forget.

I guess I've been thinking wrong about Inevitable Hillary. It doesn't mean she will be the candidate inevitably, but that she will support a position once it becomes inevitable.




Well said!
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
19. are there any democratic candidates who won't?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:18 AM
Jul 2015

She's still behind Sanders and omalley on these things. How about pledging to fight for a $15 minimum wage, senator?

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
32. I don't think there are any Dem candidates who'll say they won't.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:35 AM
Jul 2015

Then again, there probably aren't any GOP candidates who wouldn't say that, either. Talk's cheap.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
23. Modern Family = "Corporate Family"
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:59 AM
Jul 2015

Corporations ARE people now, so it's logical that they could also be considered as "Family" by some; especially those that receive the bulk of their sustenance from them.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
26. Pity the poor unpaid intern who came up w/using meme: "modern family"
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:13 AM
Jul 2015

Last edited Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:56 AM - Edit history (2)

What kind of clueless-to-reality advice should HRC expect from hiring pampered young people from families wealthy enough to subsidize a summer or more's living expenses so their little Madison or Chip could "volunteer" as an unpaid intern for HRC? It will look so good on their application to the Wharton or Harvard MBA programs, doncha know, dear?

Apparently whomever it was had no experience of life outside their bubble of entitlement, Aspen ski trips, European travel and prep schools.

If this meme of "modern family" was generated by someone higher up the food chain in the Clinton Campaign machine, all I can say is they've been inside the DC Beltway bubble way too long and are as out of touch with the reality of today's families' struggles as their boss.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
28. There is a great show called Modern Family
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:16 AM
Jul 2015

and yes, it's very different from Archie Bunker family.

Sounds like you simply jumped on the "we found another thing to bash Hillary over" meme...and frankly this meme is extremely silly.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
27. Barring the anti Hillary swarming by Bernistas
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:14 AM
Jul 2015

She is speaking to a topic she knows is of value to everyone. The middle class is lost in the shuffle. It's the group taken advantage of at every turn and she is acknowledging that fact one more time. It's an on going theme.

I do like that she is keeping Economics and social issues as their own issues to deal with. This speech on economics was for the largest swath of the population.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
34. Ah, but she didn't specifically mention black people!
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:46 AM
Jul 2015

Such an omission by Sanders saddled him with the "racist" label.

For shame. It seems the Clintonites have a double standard.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
37. She was speaking on economics...of value to all races
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:59 AM
Jul 2015

when she speaks on social issues you may just get you wish that she addresses POC.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
40. The geographically based scale is a crock.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:08 PM
Jul 2015

We have that. And when Nebraska voters pass a minimum wage hike, that is one huge indicator that the Federal minimum wage floor is far too low.

On the economy, Hillary's message doesn't resonate.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
46. She's damned if she does,
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:27 PM
Jul 2015

damned if she doesn't around here. Even when she says something about the struggles that families face, there are non-supporters who find a way to take jabs at her. People on a Democratic site should be glad she's addressing the issue at all. If it was another certain candidate bringing this up, it would easily have dozens of recs.

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