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PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 08:14 PM Jul 2015

Hillary Clinton Refuses to Take a Position on the Keystone Pipeline

Hillary Clinton took a strong stance on clean energy Monday, telling a crowd in Des Moines, Iowa, that her efforts to tackle climate change would parallel President John F. Kennedy's call to action during the space race in the 1960s.

"I want to get the country back to setting big ambitious goals," Clinton said. "I want us to get back into the future business, and one of the best ways we can do that is to be absolutely ready to address the challenge of climate change and make it work to our advantage economically."

Her remarks tracked closely with an ambitious plan her campaign released Sunday night, which set a target of producing enough renewable energy to power all the nation's homes and businesses by 2027.

...

Still, the Democractic front-runner refused—as she has several times before—to say whether or not she supports construction of the Keystone XL pipeline. That project, which would carry crude oil from Canada's tar sands to refineries and ports in the United States, is seen by many environmentalists as a blemish on President Barack Obama's climate record. It has been stalled for years in a lengthy State Department review that began when Clinton was still Secretary of State. The Obama administration has resisted several recent attempts by Congress to force Keystone's approval, but it has yet to make a final decision on the project—although one is expected sometime this year.

Read the whole article at: http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2015/07/hillary-clinton-still-wont-take-position-keystone-xl

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Hillary Clinton Refuses to Take a Position on the Keystone Pipeline (Original Post) PoliticAverse Jul 2015 OP
Did you know the crude is still being transported? Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #1
Through the Ogallala Aquifer ? bahrbearian Jul 2015 #9
no Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #15
Ridicolous kcjohn1 Jul 2015 #2
Let it run its course?!?!?!?! RoccoR5955 Jul 2015 #12
"Let it run its course?!?!?!?!" KansDem Jul 2015 #19
~ L0oniX Jul 2015 #23
Her refusal to answer key questions on important issues is emblematic of her campaign, AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #3
I guess her pollsters haven't told her which view to back yet.... peacebird Jul 2015 #8
No her BACKERS want her to approve it, and she plans to; she just will NOT admit it. Vincardog Jul 2015 #11
Then why... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #4
Then in 2015 it should be easy for her to point that out. bahrbearian Jul 2015 #13
So why the self-abnegation? bvf Jul 2015 #17
Republicans kcjohn1 Jul 2015 #20
Messy details.....it's more fun for some to criticize others than educate themselves. George II Jul 2015 #21
Then why hasn't it been put on the shelf? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #24
Cause now she's running for POTUS and her message has changed passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #25
There she goes RobertEarl Jul 2015 #5
Yep passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #26
Another right wing hit piece* on Hillary? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #6
Some on the left have gone so far that they're behaving like those on the right. Metric System Jul 2015 #14
Either that or the right wing of the party is completely clueless. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #16
Next we'll hear Bernie is funded by Breitbart. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #29
I knew BB was behind this! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #33
oh i am sure she HAS a position restorefreedom Jul 2015 #7
Yep peacebird Jul 2015 #10
The calculator is out for repairs. It's been over heating and finally broke down. L0oniX Jul 2015 #22
lol. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #32
She never was and never 840high Jul 2015 #35
same here. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #37
That's because she has ties to the Alberta tar sands. Cleita Jul 2015 #18
Get real. She CAN'T take a position on XL. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #27
She probably figures that if she stonewalls long enough... RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #28
If this is her idea of leadership, I say thanks, but no thanks. jalan48 Jul 2015 #30
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #31
...the weathervane is still moving. SoapBox Jul 2015 #34
She should be against it but the pipelne issue is kind of overblown IMO Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #36
This is why it is bad! artislife Jul 2015 #40
That's true...and this pic speak is speaking 1000 words. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #41
I agree artislife Jul 2015 #42
+a billion Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #43
Yep. She supports it and tried to get it approved as Sec of State. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #38
Too much money to be made! nt artislife Jul 2015 #39
Bullshit. She has taken a position on the pipeline. Scuba Jul 2015 #44

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
2. Ridicolous
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 08:21 PM
Jul 2015
"I will refrain from commenting [on Keystone XL], because I had a leading role in getting that process started, and we have to let it run its course," Clinton said, in response to a question from an audience member.


What cowardice.
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
12. Let it run its course?!?!?!?!
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 08:46 PM
Jul 2015

Does she even know what she is saying? She wants to destroy the boreal forest, the Earth's lungs, to get to a little crappy fossil fuels?

I swear, at this point, even if she does win the primary, she will not get my vote.

Our environment is the most important issue of our time.
Without it we all die. There is no Plan(et) B.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
3. Her refusal to answer key questions on important issues is emblematic of her campaign,
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 08:21 PM
Jul 2015

... largely smoke and mirrors. Besides, she's already "weighed in" as SOS from hiring an associate of TransCanada to do the Environmental Impact Report to promoting it in speeches easily accessible on YouTube. Many of her top donors and advisers are lobbyists for TransCanada. The truth is we already know where she stands by her words and, more importantly, her actions, and she's too much of a coward to own it.

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
20. Republicans
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 09:06 PM
Jul 2015

Set arbitrary short deadline (60 days) to try to force Obama's hand. There was little time to review impact of the pipeline, and it was politically risky topic to address for upcoming 2012 election.

The decision was "NO" for now. It will be interesting what Obama does. He is supposed to make decision soon, and Clinton wants to basically piggy back off his decision. If he says "Yes", she can hedge and say I was always against it. If he says "No", than no harm to donors because she didn't influence and it was not her decision (and behind the scenes she can say she is for it).

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
25. Cause now she's running for POTUS and her message has changed
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 09:26 PM
Jul 2015

to keep her keepers happy.

And you don't see this?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
5. There she goes
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 08:26 PM
Jul 2015

Talking about how to make money from disaster.

And not one peep about the social problems.

At least Bernie is concerned about how the average person will be affected by this disaster. A disaster the rich have already profited from.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
26. Yep
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 09:27 PM
Jul 2015
and make it work to our advantage economically."


Keeping her money sources happy and changing her message to keep her base happy is all she's about.

I thlnk they call it weather vane.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
6. Another right wing hit piece* on Hillary?
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 08:30 PM
Jul 2015

Does Mother Jones have no shame?

*yes someone actually called a MJ article a rw hit piece

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
7. oh i am sure she HAS a position
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 08:41 PM
Jul 2015

but since it is very likely pro, she just doesn't want undecideds to know what it is, because they be likely to go for Sanders or O'Malley. Just another piece of evidence that she can't be trusted and is not for the people.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
27. Get real. She CAN'T take a position on XL.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 09:28 PM
Jul 2015

Every time she goes outside to put her finger in the air, the reporters see her and start trying to get out from behind the rope, and it well... it just screws everything up.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
28. She probably figures that if she stonewalls long enough...
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 09:32 PM
Jul 2015

... that most voters will either forget or lose interest.

And you know what? Sadly, if that's what she thinks, she's probably right.

Response to PoliticAverse (Original post)

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
36. She should be against it but the pipelne issue is kind of overblown IMO
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 10:50 PM
Jul 2015

Yes it is very important because it will let them pump the oil out faster. But even if she does come out against it there are still many other policies of equal importance for climate. Like fracking, arctic drilling, and coal exports.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
41. That's true...and this pic speak is speaking 1000 words.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 11:40 PM
Jul 2015

I'm dead set against it too.

Let's just keep in mind it is one important environmental issue, among many critical issues.

If Secretary Clinton comes out against Keystone tomorrow, it really won't boost my opinion of her environmental policies much. Because we still have issues like fracking, arctic drilling, coal, etc.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
42. I agree
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 11:43 PM
Jul 2015

What about that sludge that got into the West Virginia table water? I had a fb friend showing me photos of her tap water. She was hearing it was okay to drink but some of her friends had serious reactions.

I don't think an evil man with the idea to destroy the world could do it any better than our friends the corporations.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
43. +a billion
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 11:47 PM
Jul 2015
I don't think an evil man with the idea to destroy the world could do it any better than our friends the corporations.


With friends like these we don't even need enemies.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
38. Yep. She supports it and tried to get it approved as Sec of State.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 11:31 PM
Jul 2015

She dodged a primary bullet there, but now is ducking and covering.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
44. Bullshit. She has taken a position on the pipeline.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 06:33 AM
Jul 2015

She just knows that her position will further undercut her support, so she evades the question.

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