Ed Schultz not giving up. He's still promoting Bernie Sanders in spite of being canceled.

[Cleita]

Hurrah for Ed.

[appalachiablue]

1. I saw the last 10+ mins. of ED with John Nichols & woman consultant. Very positve comments

about Bernie and recent polls. Big mistake to take ED off at 5. Last week I heard he might be put in at 3, not sure though- Comcast is doing things their way. A few months ago they got rid of some like Ronan Farrow and moved Chris Jansing to WH reporting.

*Did ED mention Bernie's events in Louisiana?

[restorefreedom]

2. good for ed

i saw that consultant before. she is unwatchable imo. She's completely delusional and she talks over everybody all the time.

[Cleita]

3. She was something else about her 150 manufacturing jobs in Wisc. under Scott Walker.

Then she had some vague reference to federal statistics but couldn't be specific? Ed just looked amazed.

[restorefreedom]

5. yeah if i were ed

i would not be expecting that email he asked her to send with the info

[Cleita]

7. Of course not. She would have had those references at her fingertips if they were real.

These RW blowhards are so used to pulling "facts" out of their ass on FoxNews and CNN, where no one questions their source, that she had to fall back on another lie.

[appalachiablue]

10. Saw her not long ago on Bill Maher & she was tamer today by far. Lol with those stats!

[restorefreedom]

35. tamer today?

crap. would hate to see her in full throttle

[appalachiablue]

43. She was in rare form on Maher. Name, Genevieve Wood. Texas Towlie below says she's from

The Daily Signal, funded by Heritage that's funded by the Kochs who fund Scott Walker. Fundy crowd- barf!

[restorefreedom]

45. that explains the shrill unintelligable babbling. nt

[appalachiablue]

24. Yep, she's awful and making the rounds lately. Just remembered seeing her on

another show over the wkend. Somebody thinks she's valuable, I don't know why.

[TexasTowelie]

32. See post #29.

[TexasTowelie]

29. She is from the Daily Signal,

the news arm of the Heritage Foundation which of course is funded by the Koch Foundation which of course pulls Scott Walker's puppet strings.

[appalachiablue]

41. Sounds RIGHT- Genevieve Wood.

[Cleita]

4. I didn't hear about Louisiana but he may have. I got interrupted in the middle. eom

[aggiesal]

21. Is there a name for this woman consultant? ...

Name would really help.

[TexasTowelie]

30. I didn't get her name,

but see post #29.

[appalachiablue]

54. Genevieve Wood, The Daily Signal funded by Heritage Fnd funded by Kochs who fund S. Walker.

[aggiesal]

57. Thank you! n/t

[napi21]

6. Glad Ed is still supporting Bernie, but I read that he was canceled because

of his trashing the TPP. Apparently NBC was one of the few businesses invited to the TPP negotiations and are in complete support of it. They even cited that Ed had 71 broadcasts about TP an they're unhappy.

[appalachiablue]

8. Wow. At least Ed was able to bring up TPP 71 times! When GE owned MS/NBC they didn't care

as much, but Comcast is very conservative I heard.

[Armstead]

9. Just curioius here you read that.

Distressing if true...But maybe not so surprising.

[napi21]

52. Ring of Fire. Here's the link.

https://www.ringoffireradio.com/2015/07/comcast-killed-the-ed-show-for-talking-about-tpp/

[Cleita]

11. Both I think. However, he didn't mention TPP on this show, hence my headline.

He's pro-labor, so anyone who is, is pretty much against these trade agreements because the past have proved them to be bad for labor. The fact that no one really knows what's in these agreements and that they are being conducted behind closed doors seems to point to the fact that billion dollar industries will get the gold mine in these agreements and the working class will get the shaft. Just saying. I don't know why the majority of the nation isn't included in this decision.

[emsimon33]

61. Speaking truth to power...damn "power"

In protest, once Ed is replaced, I am turning off MSNBC and watching Al Jazeera, which I now do on the weekends anyway!

[passiveporcupine]

12. We all know banks are too big to fail, and need to be broken up

I thought there were laws in place to keep media companies from being too big too, but apparently not. We need to get Bernie working on this too. These huge mergers and buyouts just keep happening and we all lose because of it.

[JDPriestly]

15. There used to be laws limiting media companies. Guess WHO signed the bill,

the TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT that eliminated the most important of those limitations?


[b]BILL CLINTON, THAT'S WHO!

One of the many reasons that I will NEVER, EVER vote for Hillary. NEVER, EVER.

Sold out. Sold out. And willing to sell the American people out.

Didn't take that much intelligence to realize that that Telecommunications Act would poison what was left of our democracy after Reagan got through with it.

And Bill Clinton signed it.

May he feel the shame from this date to eternity. For shame, Bill Clinton.

And Hillary is made of the same stuff when it comes to being able to understand the consequences of signing this bill or that. She proved it with the Iraq War Resolution. She was warned ahead of time by Code Pink that war in Iraq was not the answer. But Hillary ignored that good advice.

And Bill -- the Telecommunications Act is just one of the things he did as president that demonstrated poor judgment if not worse.

[L0oniX]

22. Oh come on now...just because they are married doesn't mean they are birds of a feather...

or does it?

[emsimon33]

62. I hope that history does cite all the damage Bill Clinton did as president

He is probably the most intelligent president in my lifetime, so he knew what he was doing. The Village Idiot Bush, on the other hand... .

[George II]

13. It's getting to be the Ed Sanders Show

Was it his show this afternoon or Alex Wagner's show that had the woman who was at the Louisiana rally. She said many people there were republicans who just wanted to see who Sanders is.

I've been saying pretty much the same thing for about 6 weeks, people don't go see him because they're followers or potential followers of of Sanders, they're just curiosity seekers.

[senz]

18. So did they join in with the cheering and applause, too?

All the footage I've seen show truly enthusiastic people who cheer where good Dems would cheer.

How does that "sour grapes" story go?

[kenn3d]

28. ...many people there were republicans...

I watched the live feed and I can tell you that entire crowd (@4500 people) was enthusiastic beyond expectations.

Bernie knows that a lot of Red State Democrats quite rightfully feel forgotten and forsaken by all the calculating politicians who have cynically written them off while counting up likely electoral college votes elsewhere.
And plenty of discouraged ever-poorer working class Republican voters are hearing his message too ... be sure of it.

[George II]

33. Either that or, as has been speculated by many (not just here)...

...republicans are doing all they can to pump up Sanders to detract from Clinton.

[rhett o rick]

63. Yes I agree that they are curious. They want to see what an honest politician looks like.

The corporate media won't show them.

[George II]

68. Yeah...the "corporate media" won't show them, but Sanders has been on the "corporate media"...

...more than any other candidate in the last month or more. What does that say about him?

[rhett o rick]

73. Most likely because his main competition is keeping a low profile. People might ask her what

her financial ties are to the Canadian oil and the XL Pipeline.

Sen Sanders is for the 99% and not the billionaires.

[passiveporcupine]

38. you don't have to go to a rally to find out who he is.

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It's all available on-line. I call bullshit on this "theory".

Anyone dedicated enough to go to a rally, is most likely a Bernie enthusiast.

I would never go out of my way to attend a Hillary rally. Just not worth the effort. I see enough on-line already.

Oh, and you may want to check out this thread too.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251477126

[pnwmom]

14. I thought he was supposed to be a journalist, not a politician-promoter. n/t

[senz]

19. Ed is a commentator, and he's all about working men and women, pnwmom.

[George II]

69. Not quite...which is probably why he was cancelled. When is his last show?

[Cleita]

20. So what do you think of all the other shows that are promoting Donald Trump?

Do you consider them politician-promoters too? Or is it only for those who give Bernie Sanders some air time?

[L0oniX]

23. Nailed it. n/t

[pnwmom]

34. I haven't seen them, but if they are they obviously shouldn't be. n/t

[Cleita]

36. You watch no TV or listen to the radio or read no newspaper? Trump is sucking up all the air

in the media. Besides that since Chuckie Todd is replacing Ed. Do you prefer him to a person who was on our side? Now, even if Hillary does get the nomination and not Bernie, Ed would have promoted her candidacy and now his voice will be absent. Is that what you wanted? You can be sure the Toadie won't show her except in the most unflattering way. I can't believe that's what you want.

[pnwmom]

49. I don't watch TV news or radio. I read, and very little of that would be Rethug

sources trumpeting about Trump.

[mwooldri]

48. I'm glad to hear you don't watch Fox News.

They're full of non-journalists there. The frightening thing is that some of them think they are journalists. Ed has never pretended to be one.

[passiveporcupine]

39. LOL

and what about those in media talking up Hillary and ignoring Sanders (most of them)...are they just political promoters too...oh no...they are journalists!

BTW, this should have been directed to pmwmom, not Cleita. Sorry babe!

[Cleita]

40. Thanks.

[passiveporcupine]

42. sorry just caught that and updated my post

[George II]

70. What shows have been promoting Donald Trump? I haven't seen a single one.

[Cleita]

71. This is a joke. No?

If not, I have to ask if you have been living in a monastery on Antarctica.

[George II]

72. Please answer the question. Thank you.

From most people's perspective, the answer is "ZERO".

[Jack Rabbit]

16. So what are the corporate fascists going to do now?

Cancel his program? Replace him with Mr. Toad?

[Cleita]

17. Bad reference? That's what they used to do with me when I got fired for being rebellious.

I am joking.

[brooklynite]

51. Canceling a show with bad ratings is "corporate fascism"?

More to the point, canceling a show that was given a weekday slot TWICE was "corporate fascism"?

More to the point, canceling a low-rated show while leaving a bunch of other liberals on the air is "corporate fascism"?

Good to know.

[rhett o rick]

64. Ed represents the working people of America as does Sen Sanders. Corporations don't

like either. Not surprised to see him get the boot. Weird that you are defending MSNBC.

[brooklynite]

65. I'm not defending anyone; I'm acknowledging the realities of business...

...TV shows that nobody watches get cancelled, even if you or I happen to like them. They gave Ed two shots at a weekday slot and he couldn't draw in a crowd.

Meanwhile, MSNBC has plenty of other progressive voices still on the air.

[wyldwolf]

25. oh good! Now maybe Bernie can pay him to promote him instead of MSNBC footing the bill

[Cleita]

26. Good idea. Maybe Bernie can offer him a place on his campaign. He would be an asset. eom

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. The thing that chafes my ass about him is he was a right wing radio show host....

The thing that chafes my ass about him is he was a right wing radio show host who changed his politics and ran to television because El Rushbo was handing him his ass in radio ratings.

[Cleita]

31. He was always for labor and unions even when he was a Republican.

Like many people of the era he was anti-tax but it was when the party of Eisenhower became the elitist banker's party that he changed his affiliation. He was still a bit centrist for a long while but has really evolved over the years into a good Democrat. He says himself having to see how the working class lived back then that changed his views. Some people do change. Sometimes they change for the worse like Donald Trump who was actually once a Democrat and liberal.

[George II]

44. That and a year or so ago he was gung-ho for the Keystone Pipeline, promoting it for .....

....about 15 minutes a show.

Then...boom.....he started railing against it every single night.

I lost a lot of respect for him when that happened. Not for his position either way but his complete turnaround from one night to the next.

I wonder how much he gets in commission for all the text messages he solicits in his nightly "polls", which serve no purpose?

[Cleita]

60. That lasted about three days. He was listening to Gov. Brian Schweitzer, who was for it.

Instead he got educated by Jane Kleeb and has been against it ever since, over a year now. I think that speaks for itself.

[mwooldri]

50. AFAIK he did reasonably well as a radio host.

Besides when Mr. Limpballs is on a few thousand stations and Ed is on a handful... who's going to win? In any case progressive talk died... where is Air America now? You have a handful of progressive stations left and they're carrying programming from progressive presenters who weren't really part of Air America anyway.

The only thing I connect Ed and the aforementioned excuse of a radio presenter is that to me they sound a bit alike. That's all.

[Skidmore]

66. Are people permitted to

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incorporate new and different ideas and to change their minds? Or are we forever consigned to type as presented in the first ideas we held earlier in life? I hope we are not that rigid.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

67. Genuine change is good...

After all Saul became Paul on the road to Damascus. I have questions about the timing of the change and the circumstances that surround it. They remind me of the timing and circumstances that surround the 'conversion' of the late Arlen Specter.

[cocainecowboy]

37. #OpComcast

Needs to commence now to ensure Comcast has to get rid of Chuck Todd because of a real scandal involving a sheep, a loofah, and a rubber.

[kenn3d]

46. Ed asks: Can Bernie Sanders Win?

http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/can-bernie-sanders-win--492016707732

This show is indeed remarkably opinionated for MSM, and quite optimistic about Bernie's surprising campaign. And yet it's also very refreshing to those who agree with and support this remarkable candidate.

[Cleita]

47. The MSM is very opinionated, period. But the bias is usually right wing or just left of right.

When opinion goes to the left, it is refreshing for us on the left, who are actually the majority.

[emsimon33]

53. Unlike Tweety, Rachel, Chris Hayes, etc.

Ed was telecast only once a day. This did him a great disservice, especially given his time slot. Replacing him with that Republican idiot Chuck Todd will be a disaster.

[Cleita]

55. M$NBComcast did not treat him well. They moved him around first to weekends and then

to this time slot and finally to airing his show only once a day. Most people were still at work or commuting during that time slot.

[grahamhgreen]

56. So that's why they got rid of him.

[KauaiK]

58. Ed Schultz was cancelled b/c he spoke against ComCast

It's control of the message, pure and simple.

[Cleita]

59. I agree. Pushing Bernie is also against Comcast's interests as well. n/t