2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDonald Trump’s size doesn’t matter. Also, he’s probably exaggerating it
SUNDAY, JUL 26, 2015 12:00 PM EDT
If crowds mattered, we'd have elected Romney, Kerry and Dukakis. So why do candidates and the press trumpet them?
ROBERT MANN
Vermont U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders is drawing large crowds at rallies almost everywhere he goes. Nearly 10,000 in Wisconsin; more than 7,000 in Portland, Maine; more than 5,000 in Denver; and 3,000 in Minneapolis.
That, according to some political observers, is evidence that Sanders is a threat to the Democrats presumptive nominee, Hillary Clinton. Sanderss audiencein a state not among those with traditional early nominating contestsrivaled the largest drawn by Clinton and the Vermont senator in recent weeks, Washington Post reporter John Wagner opined of Sanders recent Denver rally. The extraordinary turnout was the latest evidence that Sanders, 73, has tapped into the economic anxiety of the Democratic electorate.
Not to be outdone, Donald Trump on Saturday bragged that the size of his rally in a Phoenix hotel ballroom blows away anything that Bernie Sanders has gotten. Most journalists covering the event pegged the crowds size at 4,000 to 5,000. Trumps staff told Fox News that 15,000 supporters were on hand. Trump later tweeted that he had attracted more than 20,000 (in a ballroom with a maximum legal occupancy of 2,158).
Some in the media were duly impressed by Trumps crowds on his weekend Western tour (he also held events in Las Vegas and Los Angeles). ABC News described the campaign events in an online story headlined, Trump Talks Immigration to Record Crowds in Border State. The headline of MSNBCs story about Trumps weekend: Donald Trump draws massive crowds during campaign swing.
I have bad news for Sanders, Trump, their supporters and some in the news media fixated on the numbers at candidates rallies: The size of rallies has long been a flawed measure of a campaigns vitality. Journalists often survey an arena brimming with enthusiastic supporters and mistakenly use a head count to gauge the campaigns prospects. Candidates and their staffs are eager to bolster that faulty notion, sometimes feeding reporters exaggerated crowd estimates (theres no evidence Sanders campaign has done that).
More at: http://www.salon.com/2015/07/26/donald_trumps_size_doesnt_matter_also_hes_probably_exaggerating_it/
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Massive crowds don't translate into votes.
elleng
(131,063 posts)Martin O'Malley Breaks Into Song At Iowa Campaign Event.with VIDEO
The former Maryland governor serenaded supporters with a guitar performance.
BEAVERDALE, Iowa -- Former Maryland governor and Democratic presidential candidate Martin OMalley treated supporters to an impromptu performance on Friday, serenading them during a campaign stop in Iowa.
Following his remarks at a local pub in Beaverdale, OMalley was handed a guitar, and led a song session while standing on a chair.
Oh, a guitar, really, OMalley said with a smile on his face. Its miraculous how these things emerge. . .
Following OMalleys musical performance on Friday, campaign staffers collected nearly a dozen commit-to-caucus forms, a possible sign that voters were digging more than the tunes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/martin-omalley-song_55b4e279e4b0224d883283a2
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Is that Trump is already comparing himself to Bernie.!
The front-runner of the republican party recognizes that what Bernie is doing is so huge, he has made an attempt to match the Bern!
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Big donations don't make up for a lack of passionate support.
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,851 posts)trueblue2007
(17,234 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Don't ya spose he lies about that, too?
George II
(67,782 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)No doubt.
And guys like him have ingrown hairs everywhere.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)and I can't stop laughing at your rather astute assumption.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)I worked in a hospital. I know the type. Sweaty, pale, and ingrown hairs.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Nobody is paid to attend Bernie Sanders rallies.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)It sure didn't seem that way.