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On her 79th and probably last overseas trip as secretary of state, Hillary Clinton made a pit stop in the Czech Republic. One purpose of the 11-hour visit on Dec. 3, squeezed between NATO talks on the future of Afghanistan and the Syrian civil war, was to make a personal appeal to Czech Prime Minister Petr Nečas on behalf of Westinghouse Electric, which is vying for a contract to build a nuclear power plant there. The company is locked in a $10 billion bidding war with a state-owned Russian energy giant, and Clinton pressed the Czech officials about the wisdom of depending on Vladimir Putins Russia for something as essential as electricity. Westinghouse Chief Executive Danny Roderick, whos still awaiting a decision, says Clintons intervention made a big impression on the Czechs: I was proud that she was in the trenches with me.
In four years as the nations top diplomat, Clinton, who is expected to step down this month, has made dozens of similar sales pitches on behalf of U.S. companies. In 2009 she toured a Boeing plant in Moscow and met with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov to persuade state-owned Russian Technologies to buy 50 Boeing 737s instead of jets made by Airbus. That $3.7 billion deal was one of several large contracts Clinton helped clinch for Boeing (BA). In December 2011, Lockheed Martin (LMT) announced a $7.2 billion deal to upgrade Japans aging fighter jet fleet, beating out Eurofighter. Clinton advocated for the contract with her Japanese counterpart at the United Nations General Assembly. In February 2012, Space Systems/Loral, which builds communications satellites in Palo Alto, won a contract for equipment to create a national broadband network in Australia. Clinton met with former Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd several times to press for the deal. Last summer, Clintons undersecretary for economic growth, Robert Hormats, a former Goldman Sachs (GS) vice chair, took executives from Google (GOOG), MasterCard (MA), and Dow Chemical (DOW) to Myanmar to network with government officials, the first such meeting since sanctions against the country were lifted in 2012.
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Shes pressed the case for U.S. business in Cambodia, Singapore, Vietnam, Indonesia, and other countries in Chinas shadow. Shes also taken a leading part in drafting the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the free-trade pact that would give U.S. companies a leg up on their Chinese competitors.
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To ensure the State Department keeps its business focus, Clinton has tried to change the way the 69,000-person global bureaucracy operates. In one directive, which she calls the Ambassador-as-CEO memo, she ordered U.S. embassies to make it a priority to help U.S. businesses win contracts. Science officers now extoll American clean-tech companies. Military affairs officers promote U.S. fighter planes.
http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2013-01-10/hillary-clintons-business-legacy-at-the-state-department#p3
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It answers your blatantly false question. Not often you see someone pose a question and then knock it down all in the same op. Bravo. I hear Bloomberg is in her corner and never embellishes when writing about her. I really don't think there are enough isolationist here who will take issue with the state department working with business abroad. It has happened forever. Isolationism with respect to US policy at the state department would be foolish.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)What part of
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"Did Hillary spend all her time in the State Dept. shilling for wealthy corporate interests?"
It is blatantly false commentary by the op. You excerpt addresses none of what I said or took issue with. Like it was just grabbed and thrown out there in an attempt to add merit to such a false statement.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Just some of it. The remainder she spent shilling for more wars.
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TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)HFRN
(1,469 posts)that implies that she isn't one when she was off that duty
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)murielm99
(30,754 posts)I bookmarked that site.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Their function is to try to dazzle with bullshit.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/05/12/how-a-super-pac-plans-to-coordinate-directly-with-hillary-clintons-campaign/
shenmue
(38,506 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)udbcrzy2
(891 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)thats a joke . or maybe not .
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)This is her whole career in a nutshell. Especially if you count her times as first lady Arkansas and the US.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Promoting U.S. corporations is part of the job of any SOS.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)of trade, long the neglected stepchildren of the foreign policy establishment, are central to U.S. strategic interests.
And anyways something like promoting TPP is a matter of policy choice. Obama obviously supports it, and she has the job because she agrees.
It's not "part of the job". The job is diplomatic relations with other countries. Choosing whether and how to promote business interests is a policy choice.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Not wise when it's so easily researched and refuted.
Perhaps you could c&p her official job description and point out the confined limitations you have described
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)The President and the Secretary decide on the role together. The President is the boss and if the Secretary doesn't like it they can quit and maybe write a book about it.
Working at a normal job you do what you're told because you need the job and you need the money.
For multi-millionaire government officials, "just following orders", "just doing my job", is a fake excuse.
Flying around the world convincing foreign leaders to help US companies ship jobs overseas, like with TPP?
That's not the President's or Secretary of State's "job" to do that unless they want it to be.
If it is their "job" I'd like to know who the hell they are working for because it isn't the American people.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Of course the president and the State Dept. would want to promote U.S. businesses abroad. I think that it would be self evident that the country's economy needed to grow. I don't get the problem. Would some of you prefer that other countries competed for business abroad and the U.S. just withdrew from competing?
This place is nuts.......
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)It's not self evident that a "growing" economy actually helps anybody I care about.
For example The 1 Percent Have Gotten All The Income Gains From The Recovery:
Between 2009 and 2012, according to updated data from Emmanuel Saez, overall income per family grew 6.9 percent. The gains werent shared evenly, however. The top 1 percent saw their real income grow by 34.7 percent while the bottom 99 percent only saw a 0.8 percent gain, meaning that the 1 percent captured 91 percent of all real income.
Business interests are not the same as the interests of the American people.
This is what happens when government promotes business interests. Corporations profit. No surprise. This is what happens when government serves corporations first:http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/03/corporate-profits-are-eating-the-economy/273687/
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/06/speedup-americans-working-harder-charts
Pandering to business interests, pretending the benefits will trickle down to the rest of us, it doesn't work. It's Reaganomics by slightly different means.
If you want to make jobs in America then directly create jobs in America.
You say:
I don't care if the economy grows. I care if people have jobs, health care and education. It's time to create those things directly without pandering to big business. As it stands now only lip service is paid to these things while almost every major action of the government primarily serves some business interest. That includes the Secretary of State acting as "the governments highest-ranking business lobbyist".
Beacool
(30,250 posts)That's why when a SOS visits another country included in his/her entourage are American business people.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)The interests of the Chamber of Commerce are not always the same as the interests of the American people.
Actually much of the time their interests are in conflict.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts).....To negotiate with foreign governments. Much to their chagrin lol
Beacool
(30,250 posts)in a middle of a terrible economy. I guess some of you think that the U.S. should have just stayed home and let China take over every industry in the world.
If we don't promote our industries, how are we going to sell our products abroad? How are those companies going to remain in business? What happens to American workers if those companies close?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Any benefit to American workers is purely co-incidental.
Promoting business interests is not just about promoting exports. It's about helping businesses do whatever they want. Good bad or ugly. And the goal is always one thing. To make money.
They often do more harm than good. For example the Trans-Pacific Partnership would lead to more job offshoring and more income inequality.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Thank you!! TRUTH
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(5,178 posts)randome
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leveymg
(36,418 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)there would be no interest at all.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)She has a lot of friends who have markers and missions from G-d.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)Mr. Koch, is that you?
BooScout
(10,406 posts)It's Rove!