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Stellar

(5,644 posts)
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 09:36 AM Jul 2015

Reason #1 to Vote Bernie: Sanders Does 'Better Than Clinton' Against GOP in Swing States

Reason #1 to Vote Bernie: Sanders Does 'Better Than Clinton' Against GOP in Swing States

According to a July 22, 2015 Quinippiac University Poll, Hillary Clinton's once overwhelming lead in public opinion has been cut substantially, and it's still a long way to the February 1, 2016 Iowa Caucus. In states that will decide the 2016 presidential election, Quinippiac reports that "Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, runs as well as, or better than Clinton against Rubio, Bush and Walker." According to its latest poll, Quinippiac explains how Clinton's lead has eroded in swing states, while Sanders's surge has spread from Iowa and New Hampshire to other key regions:

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is behind or on the wrong side of a too-close-to-call result in matchups with three leading Republican contenders, U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker in Colorado, Iowa and Virginia, according to a Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll released today...
In several matchups in Iowa and Colorado, another Democratic contender, U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, runs as well as, or better than Clinton against Rubio, Bush and Walker...

much more at the link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/reason-1-to-vote-bernie-sanders_b_7863524.html
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Reason #1 to Vote Bernie: Sanders Does 'Better Than Clinton' Against GOP in Swing States (Original Post) Stellar Jul 2015 OP
And people are still learning who he is and what he stands for marym625 Jul 2015 #1
I get a smile out of these, but I'm happier to wait and see that his numbers keep going up. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #3
oh, definitely! marym625 Jul 2015 #4
Glad we can see a post on this poll again Godhumor Jul 2015 #2
I pointed out in the breakdown in Virginia the voters said they didn't know Webb or Gilmore still_one Jul 2015 #6
Propaganda on DU? Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #5
It's in the article as was this little nugget if you care to read it. Stellar Jul 2015 #9
I would need to see more polls. Metric System Jul 2015 #7
...in one Republican heavy outlier poll that has been debunked. nt onehandle Jul 2015 #8
Silly me. I thought his positions and priorities were the #1 reason to vote for Bernie. LonePirate Jul 2015 #10
Well, we have been informed that we should vote for Hillary because "she will win". djean111 Jul 2015 #11
His supporters have been screaming this to the heavens Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #12
Just wait until the GOP starts their attack campaign against him. Metric System Jul 2015 #14
He's withstood all the shit Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #15
Their attack campaign against her will be just as effective. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #17
Really? Cause it seems to me Bill Clinton left office with an approval rating in the 60s. Arkana Jul 2015 #19
And that is only from people who KNOW who he is so far. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #13
Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #16
You're welcome for sure. nt Stellar Jul 2015 #18
Nice to hear, but this is not Reason #1. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #20

marym625

(17,997 posts)
1. And people are still learning who he is and what he stands for
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 09:41 AM
Jul 2015

I believe it's a full 32% that haven't heard him or his message yet. When people learn about him, they support him.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. I get a smile out of these, but I'm happier to wait and see that his numbers keep going up.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 09:46 AM
Jul 2015

I'm hoping the next round of polls sees him topping 25 or 30% more consistently. I'd like to see him over 35% consistently going into the debates.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
4. oh, definitely!
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 09:49 AM
Jul 2015

It's so damn early. But the fact he's jumped in the polls so much, in such a short time, with very little money (comparatively,) and a MSM black out, is very encouraging!

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
2. Glad we can see a post on this poll again
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 09:42 AM
Jul 2015

So real quick:

Outlier completely out of touch with every other poll out there, including those that came out after this one

Demographic breakdown of voting sample is way off

All Democratic candidates lose to all Republican candidates in the poll (not just Clinton).

And on, and on, and on...

still_one

(92,331 posts)
6. I pointed out in the breakdown in Virginia the voters said they didn't know Webb or Gilmore
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 09:54 AM
Jul 2015

Webb and Gilmore were elected to state wide offices in Virginia. Who are they polling?

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
9. It's in the article as was this little nugget if you care to read it.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 10:02 AM
Jul 2015
"The issues presented at Netroots by Black Lives Matter must be addressed by the next Democratic nominee, and I firmly believe Bernie Sanders will rise to the occasion. In addition to winning swing states, the next Democratic nominee will have to win the trust of African-American voters. This will be crucial, especially when the Sandra Bland tragedy has brought racism to the forefront of American politics in 2015."


It's in the article as I've said and I sleep well most nights.
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
11. Well, we have been informed that we should vote for Hillary because "she will win".
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 10:35 AM
Jul 2015

So there is a precedent. (Also - because she is a woman, because she has been in politics so long, stuff like that).

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
12. His supporters have been screaming this to the heavens
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 10:50 AM
Jul 2015

that HE CAN WIN RED STATES! Unlike the "experts" at the DNC, Bernie WILL go to all 50 states. He'll bring a new message to those who have traditionally voted against their own interests. He directly addresses needs and concerns of PoC, the poor, the shrinking middle class, and all of those who have been so adversely affected by our bought-and-paid-for Congress.

He doesn't have the negatives that Hillary has. People in the red states are already pre-disposed to dislike Hillary. Not so with Sanders. Sanders doesn't start out with that deficit. And those negative numbers, btw, continue to rise for Hillary. It's not what the polls say today, it's the trajectory. By some calculation and if the current trend continues, Bernie should catch up with Hillary along about October.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
15. He's withstood all the shit
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 11:28 AM
Jul 2015

that the Hillary camp has thrown at him and he's still gaining ground. With a 50-year history of Civil Rights and Social Activism, all he has to do is stand on his record and let the grassroots do the rest.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
17. Their attack campaign against her will be just as effective.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 09:55 PM
Jul 2015

And they'll bring all the Nineties dreck back...and since it all worked once, it's certain to work again.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
19. Really? Cause it seems to me Bill Clinton left office with an approval rating in the 60s.
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 01:37 PM
Jul 2015

It didn't work. It worked with people who hated the Clintons already. And you fell for it.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
13. And that is only from people who KNOW who he is so far.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 10:52 AM
Jul 2015

Wait 'til people everywhere know him. He talks about the issues that people CARE about according to every poll on ISSUES supported by the American people. So it's no surprise he will beat every Republican in this race. They are AGAINST every issue the people care about.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
20. Nice to hear, but this is not Reason #1.
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 01:43 PM
Jul 2015

Putting focus-grouped electability at a campaign's top priority is part of what got the Democratic Party in the state it's in today.

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