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RandySF

(59,079 posts)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 10:50 PM Jul 2015

How the National Rifle Association helped get Bernie Sanders elected

BURLINGTON, Vt. — A few days before Election Day in 1990, the National Rifle Association sent a letter to its 12,000 members in Vermont, with an urgent message about the race for the state’s single House seat.

Vote for the socialist, the gun rights group said. It’s important.

Bernie Sanders is a more honorable choice for Vermont sportsmen than ­Peter Smith,” wrote Wayne LaPierre, who was — and still is — a top official at the national NRA, backing Sanders over the Republican incumbent.......

As a candidate in 1990, Sanders won over gun rights groups by promising to oppose one bill they hated — a measure that would establish a waiting period for handgun sales. In Congress, he kept that promise. The dynamic served as an early demonstration that, despite his pure-leftist persona, Sanders was at his core a pragmatic politician, calculating that he couldn’t win in rural Vermont without doing something for gun owners.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-nra-helped-put-bernie-sanders-in-congress/2015/07/19/ed1be26c-2bfe-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html

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How the National Rifle Association helped get Bernie Sanders elected (Original Post) RandySF Jul 2015 OP
How 'calculating.' nt onehandle Jul 2015 #1
It is the Washington Post after all. They've been on a roll these past few days n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #8
And then awarded him.... daleanime Jul 2015 #2
Hillary voted to cluster-bomb children in 2006. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #3
Michael Moore was in the NRA then. Under the bus goes he and all his works, I suppose. arcane1 Jul 2015 #6
Every single Senate Democrat voted to fund the war in 2005 and 2006. nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #16
For a guy who can't win, a whole lot of effort is being used to smear him. arcane1 Jul 2015 #4
So the NRA didn't help Sanders in 1990? RandySF Jul 2015 #5
Why do you care? He can't win. arcane1 Jul 2015 #7
Good point RandySF Jul 2015 #9
No.. I got a better question for her... London Lover Man Jul 2015 #10
So Hillary didn't vote to cluster-bomb children? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #11
You're not saying it would have been more progressive to elect the Republican, are you? Ken Burch Jul 2015 #18
And then gave him an F anyway. ibegurpard Jul 2015 #12
If Bernie Sanders is pro-gun Devil Child Jul 2015 #13
"Vote for the socialist, the gun rights group said" Bjorn Against Jul 2015 #14
Well that explains why he voted against the Brady Bill. nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #15
Compared to triangulation and "welfare reform", Bernie's gun stance is a trivial concession. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #17
If so then the NRA has done something good for the country after all. TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #19
Good for the NRA supporting Bernie over a Republican (although Smith was a decent fellow, but still) aikoaiko Jul 2015 #20
We're stuck in a 3-week cycle of rehashing the same nonsense.. frylock Jul 2015 #21
La Pierre wrote to 12 THOUSAND NRA members? That's almost 6% of those who voted, if... George II Jul 2015 #22
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
6. Michael Moore was in the NRA then. Under the bus goes he and all his works, I suppose.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:09 PM
Jul 2015

Some idiots have already tried the scam of "blaming" Sanders for the Charleston shootings. Now we have this OP, conveniently posted right after news of another horrible mass-shooting.

Coincidence, I'm sure, and nobody will be saying Sanders has blood on his hands again. Nope! No connections will be drawn. Not here on DU!

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
4. For a guy who can't win, a whole lot of effort is being used to smear him.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:02 PM
Jul 2015

Funny how none of the other candidates get this much effort thrown at them. Why is Jim Webb being so universally ignored?

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
7. Why do you care? He can't win.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:10 PM
Jul 2015

Why waste precious time in your life (time you will never get back) on this fool's errand, when the outcome will be the same if you did nothing?

 

London Lover Man

(371 posts)
10. No.. I got a better question for her...
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:15 PM
Jul 2015

Where does she stand on gun control and what does she think of the LA tragedy?

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
18. You're not saying it would have been more progressive to elect the Republican, are you?
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 05:19 AM
Jul 2015

Guns don't outweigh everything else on the progressive agenda...and Bernie has no compromises on anything else.

It's bullshit to argue that this makes him just as calculating as HRC. You know better than that.

And Bernie gets a D- grade from the NRA on his collective legislative voting record, so this mailout is trivial.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
12. And then gave him an F anyway.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:16 PM
Jul 2015

Yeah they love him all right. I'm not going to speak to what people want as far as gun legislation where you are but where I am Sanders' positions on reasonable firearms regulations are right where they should be. Nor do I think we should be suing manufacturers of legal devices.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
13. If Bernie Sanders is pro-gun
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:16 PM
Jul 2015

Then that makes me even happier I'm voting for him in the primary and the general election.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
14. "Vote for the socialist, the gun rights group said"
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:39 PM
Jul 2015

Notice that the quotes are mine, the actual article does not even put quotes around "vote for the socialist" yet they claim the NRA said it about Bernie. Did the NRA run an ad saying "Vote for the socialist"? Somehow I doubt it, I find it far more likely that the Washington Post pulled that quote without quotation marks straight from their ass.

By the way the NRA pretty much hates Bernie, he currently has a D- with the organization and he supports background checks, limits on magazine size, and increased background checks.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
17. Compared to triangulation and "welfare reform", Bernie's gun stance is a trivial concession.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 05:17 AM
Jul 2015

The welfare people drove millions of the poor into greater misery....Bernie's moderate position on guns hasn't harmed much of anybody(unlike HRC's IWR vote, which she KNEW would guarantee war).

And it does not prove that Bernie is just as cynical as HRC(who's past is too compromised and anti-progressive to ever allow her to be a progressive president).

TheKentuckian

(25,029 posts)
19. If so then the NRA has done something good for the country after all.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 07:06 AM
Jul 2015

We need another 534 like him at least.

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
20. Good for the NRA supporting Bernie over a Republican (although Smith was a decent fellow, but still)
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 07:19 AM
Jul 2015


Interesting note: it's good to see WaPo is supporting a good friend.

Peter Smith is currently serving as Senior Vice President for Academic Strategies and Development at Kaplan Higher Education Corporation, a global education company owned by the Washington Post company
.

- from wiki

frylock

(34,825 posts)
21. We're stuck in a 3-week cycle of rehashing the same nonsense..
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 01:19 PM
Jul 2015

because you guys have nothing of substance to criticize Sanders on. Next week we'll back to discussing orgasms and cervical cancer. Lather, rinse, repeat.

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. La Pierre wrote to 12 THOUSAND NRA members? That's almost 6% of those who voted, if...
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jul 2015

....all 12,000 got out to vote.

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