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whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 01:26 AM Jul 2015

I'm sure I'll get the shit kicked out of me for this...

but making Bernie's supporters THE ISSUE seems like a false and counterproductive narrative. There's no doubt PoC are under assault, and something urgently needs to be done, but constant bickering and flame wars over the attitudes (real or perceived) of online Bernie supporters feels like a huge distraction. Our candidate is listening and learning, and many of us are too, but there is way too much emphasis being placed on the internet sideshow. If all Bernie's supporters either said everything they're supposed to say, or not another word until after the primary, it would have no significant impact on the plight of PoC or the demands of BLM. Let's get down to it and figure out a way to engage the current government in this effort.

Ok thrash me now

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I'm sure I'll get the shit kicked out of me for this... (Original Post) whatchamacallit Jul 2015 OP
i agree but aren't you one of those who was doing this and making it about him ? JI7 Jul 2015 #1
Maybe, I'm not sure whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #3
What, you want to discuss policies? Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #2
not trashing, but as a Bernie supporter, I think we do reflect on our candidate. TDale313 Jul 2015 #4
I buy that whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #5
You're not wrong about that. TDale313 Jul 2015 #7
One thing I've noticed: on DU, a huge number of Hillary's supporters fly Bernie logos, Romulox Jul 2015 #6
One thing I have noticed- if you don't hate Obama and Hillary you get slimed like no ones business bettyellen Jul 2015 #19
Are they really Bernie supporters? If there is one thing that shouldn't be taken at face value, Skwmom Jul 2015 #8
Yup. Agschmid Jul 2015 #18
Bernie supporters made this about Bernie. sufrommich Jul 2015 #9
In all fairness.... NCTraveler Jul 2015 #12
I guess we'll see soon enough.nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #13
The paranoia exhibited in these posts is disturbing. Nitram Jul 2015 #10
Really like the tone of your op. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #11
Thanks whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #16
Far too many Bernie supporters here are over-bearing - sometimes bordering on ... 66 dmhlt Jul 2015 #14
You are quite selective really. Puglover Jul 2015 #17
Thanks for a great example of "Tu quoque" ... I rest my case! 66 dmhlt Jul 2015 #21
No. You won't get beaten down.. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #15
I'll kick the thread, LWolf Jul 2015 #20
 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
2. What, you want to discuss policies?
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 01:34 AM
Jul 2015

But that would make Hillary look bad. So typical of Bernie supporters to try and twist things to favor their candidate.

I'm still waiting on Bernie's favorite flavor of ice cream. I assume it's some variety of Ben & Jerry's.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
4. not trashing, but as a Bernie supporter, I think we do reflect on our candidate.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 01:37 AM
Jul 2015

I know the way some Hillary supporters behave has sometimes left a bad taste in my mouth. It may not make a huge difference in the long run, but it makes it much harder to come together in the end and do the work that needs to be done.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
7. You're not wrong about that.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 01:44 AM
Jul 2015

But I think Bernie's handling things well, and that's the main thing. I think we'd do well to follow his lead.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
6. One thing I've noticed: on DU, a huge number of Hillary's supporters fly Bernie logos,
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 01:43 AM
Jul 2015

and claim to be "undecided".

The overlap between this group and DU's most conservative posters is considerable.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
19. One thing I have noticed- if you don't hate Obama and Hillary you get slimed like no ones business
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:08 AM
Jul 2015

Around here and have to listen to BS conspiracy theories about who they are supporting or Soros' payroll and some such nuttery. It's not impressing anyone.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
8. Are they really Bernie supporters? If there is one thing that shouldn't be taken at face value,
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 08:51 AM
Jul 2015

it is online posters stating that they back a certain candidate.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
12. In all fairness....
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:10 AM
Jul 2015

In all fairness, isn't that kind of what supporters of a candidate are suppose to make it about? Their candidate.

"Bernie supporters made this about Bernie."

I don't think Sanders would be getting half the coverage he is if it weren't for this. He needs name recognition and he needs it fast. This is getting him out there. All of these stories often also include his rhetoric from his past. They often take a tone of "how can a guy work for civil rights for this long and take this kind of beating." That in itself will lead to support for him, in my mind. I think outside of du these stories are being coupled with his record(past rhetoric). That is a good thing for him.

66 dmhlt

(1,941 posts)
14. Far too many Bernie supporters here are over-bearing - sometimes bordering on ...
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:51 AM
Jul 2015

Obnoxious and rude.

When I took the "Select a Candidate" quiz (and if you do, I would encourage you to always to the "Other Stances" - it takes a bit longer, but much more nuanced)
http://www.isidewith.com/

... I got 97% agreement w/ Bernie & 90% w/ Hillary.

But the far too frequent in-your-face and "My way of the highway" attitude of a lot of Bernie supporters here has me on the fence.

It's one thing to be enthusiastic, but it's another to be downright rude. And it most assuredly does NOT help Bernie.

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
17. You are quite selective really.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 10:48 AM
Jul 2015

There are rude supporters on both sides. For every link to to a rude Bernie supporter there is one for a Hillary supporter. So spare us the "far too many" baloney.

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