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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:31 PM Jul 2015

President Obama and Dem Candidates Running for 2016....What about BLM? Whose Watch is This On?

What about actions from President Obama? He has TIME LEFT to do ACTION....Where is He?

Any Dem President we elect in 2016 will need a year to get going and legislation for Today's Problems will be pushed off down the Road.

Why can't Obama Address these issues NOW when things are so dire rather than holding off for over Two Years to address what's hurting people NOW?

How long can "Black Lives Matter" Wait? We are already three and more years into the worst of the "Random Killings by Militarized Police Forces" searching out Black Victims to Target and Kill, if they can.

Why should anyone wait until "President 2016" to DEMAND ACTION?

Why is Obama and the U.S. Justice Department not going after these killings ...Under THEIR WATCH!

Why is "Black Lives Matter" not targeting WHAT CAN BE DONE NOW....and instead pushing it off onto Candidates who are Running for 2016 who have NO POWER? And whoever is Elected can't have Power until their Cabinet and the New House & Senate are up and Running...which can take Well Over a Year!

How long we as citizens to see these terrible Crimes be STOPPED? Can anyone answer this?

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Zorra

(27,670 posts)
1. I expect that sometime in the future they will do a scripted disruption
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 10:03 PM
Jul 2015

of a Clinton event that Clinton will be forewarned about and coached on, so that she won't appear flustered (but a little taken aback before she "regains her composure" is best for the cameras) and can give all the right answers, in order to give the public the impression that she totally understands all race concerns perfectly

The next day, it will be all over the news, and the MSM will praise her as a hero.

Given the sequence of events before, during, and after the NN event that Hillary could not attend, this seems to me to be the next logical move that a 1% Third way strategist would employ in order to secure the Democratic nomination for Clinton.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
2. And if the current president deals with it now, it loses impact as an issue for 2016.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 10:14 PM
Jul 2015

Who do you think the current administration favors as our nominee?

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
6. President Obama is still getting shit for daring to say that his son
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 10:39 PM
Jul 2015

would look like Trayvon Martin. He's patiently spent hours trying to explain how racism affects black people being super careful not to seem too angry so as not to turn any comment he makes about racism into a political weapon for the GOP to successfully use to frighten fragile white people. Your question basically boils down to "why aren't those black people being mean to the black president,hmmmmm?" It's an ignorant dog whistle question and supremely disingenuous coming from people who have despised him since day one of his presidency.

blm

(113,101 posts)
7. KoKo - are you saying you never heard of any steps being taken by WH, DOJ, or
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 10:53 PM
Jul 2015

the task force formed earlier this year? Ever try google?

That's funny you think the WH isn't doing a damn thing, because all the RWers I battle daily all think Obama is being too aggressive in his approach, trying to hobble the police with restrictions, with some claiming his aggression against police is to lead a race war. I'd LOL if it wasn't so damn sickening the way he is targeted by these violent fools, and that some are seeking out any black target they can to ease their itching trigger fingers.

Now….

Are you actually bothered that primary candidates are being peppered by BLM? Geez - they know what they signed up for when they began their runs. Every one of them. I think Sanders is handling it all pretty darn well, and doesn't need me to get angry that the questions and actions of other left activists are directed at him and other Dem candidates.

BTW - did it never occur to you that the sharp uptick in police shootings of unarmed blacks and increased number of arrests of all POC is that those officers are targeting blacks BECAUSE of the 24/7 megaphones blasting feverish hatred of the first black president? They can't get close enough to Obama to do what they would like. But, they sure can do something about those uppity blacks in THEIR towns, can't they?

Seriously, KoKo - think about it.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
8. blm....
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:22 PM
Jul 2015

His measures from what I've read are very weak. And, its late in his Presidency that all this is occurring. So, either it's a result of policies put into place under Clinton and the selling of Military Hardware (left over from our wars like the MRAPS and other Arms) sold to our Police Departments that was going on under His Watch that he wasn't on top of (not like he didn't have alot of stuff on his plate distracting him) but, still it was going on. And where has anyone been addressing the Training of our Local Police Forces in how to deal with Terrorists in Israel and other Countries from NYC out throughout our country that's been going on for how long now contributing to what's going on with targeting our Black and POC youth?

Several of us posted during the Fergusen Killings about these "Military Hardward Extravaganza Shows" every year in CA where our Police Depts from all over the USA are going to look at the latest in "High Tech" Local Police Departments attending to purchase goods in addition to what our Govt. is selling them in our Military Hardware from our ME Wars. Very few here were interested. We posted links to our Police trained in Israel and other Countries including one of the police chiefs in Fergusen who had attended the training there. But, few were interested.

These are the issues that need to be brought to attention of Obama and the Justice Department. Why are Blacks & POC being treated as Terrorists!

And, I repeat that going after our Dem Presidential Candidates is helpful...HOW. It will be Years before they can take any action and we haven't even gotten to Primaries or Election of the time it takes for a new Administration to get into full power. Obama and Justice Department need to do ACTIONS NOW. This has gotten out of control

And you say this to me after Obama was elected by the People of the USA for TWO TERMS? That it's the RW'er Blasting Hatred? It's a bit late to use that as the problem why Obama hasn't been harder on Justice Department to deal with these issues and that he's "looking into it" at this late date is concerning.

You said:

BTW - did it never occur to you that the sharp uptick in police shootings of unarmed blacks and increased number of arrests of all POC is that those officers are targeting blacks BECAUSE of the 24/7 megaphones blasting feverish hatred of the first black president? They can't get close enough to Obama to do what they would like. But, they sure can do something about those uppity blacks in THEIR towns, can't they?


I'm tired and its time for me to cut out and go to bed. You know we've sparred back and forth through the years (always kindly) so I hope you will at least try to understand what I am saying.

blm

(113,101 posts)
12. He already restricted sale of surplus military to police depts. I think you need
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:54 PM
Jul 2015

to do some more research and get updates on what's been happening since he appointed that task force who turned in their recommendations last spring. He has also been working through the mayors and encouraged programs with heavy community involvement - one of those in my neck of NC is called Cops and Barbers, and so far, seems very promising. I know this, because I get involved locally as well as the work I do with Dem GOTV.

Try checking into the facts before you make such heavy condemnations.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
15. "Cops & Barbers"---Thank You!
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:15 PM
Jul 2015

We participated in some of Reverend Barber's "Moral Monday" demonstrations and anything we can do to bring people together is always good to hear about.

I think all the Military Hardware and M-RAP's, Riot Gear, etc. should be returned to the Govt. to store in the Desert somewhere. Putting "restrictions on future sales" doesn't do anything when the stuff is already out there in huge quantities. And, what about the Military Training with emphasis on Terrorism in Israel and other countries. Have they put a stop to that?

BTW: The amount of Military equipment that NC & SC got was OTT. What if some groups like KKK get their hands on that stuff. It should have never been done.

These were good reads..........

‘Cops and barbers’ rally promotes peaceful response through dialogue

Cops and barbers’ effort onstage at Freedom Park rally

Community leaders aim for peaceful response to officer’s trial

Leaders and activists say everybody has a role to play

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article27110185.html#storylink=cpy
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article27110185.html

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Why a Charlotte barber champions race relations with cops

Charlotte barber Shaun Corbett helped launch the "Cops and Barbers" program, which organizes town hall forums so community members can talk to police.
By Tom Foreman, Jr., Associated Press July 18, 2015
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2015/0718/Why-a-Charlotte-barber-champions-race-relations-with-cops

blm

(113,101 posts)
16. Thank you for taking the time to catch up. Involvement for all of us is crucial and
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:19 PM
Jul 2015

Obama has been leading us to that whether people pick up on it or not.

The corpmedia certainly isn't going to herald progress - hell, the 'news' networks won't even show the Iran nuclear deal hearings for fear people will be educated on what's in the deal. They want to keep the debate tilted to the GOP and neocons because that is the side willing to spend millions in ads to defeat the deal.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
18. I think the MSM is getting steadily worse instead of better...
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:44 PM
Jul 2015

Do you have a Roku box? We use it for International News with the AP which is much better reporting than anything we get here. Can't deal with the lack of any substantive reporting on Foreign Policy and ME issues plus better coverage of events here in US on Social Issues. Also, the endless commercials and jabbering happy talk misinfo given by the usual Think Tank types and Anchors.

Many (young and older)_are cutting the cable cord and seeking other resources. That probably will bring a change in the future, hopefully. But not soon enough, sadly.

blm

(113,101 posts)
19. Had to catch Iran hearings on AlJazeera - no CNN, Msnbc or news network coverage
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:49 PM
Jul 2015

from anyone but AJ.

Despicable.

Code Pink was sitting behind Kerry with Thank You John Kerry and Support Iran Nuclear Deal signs.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
17. Obama has and continues to be lobbied on this every single day.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:24 PM
Jul 2015

He has also taken action. Not enough, but action you are clearly not aware of.

How long can "Black Lives Matter" Wait?

You seriously see them waiting?

Why should anyone wait until "President 2016" to DEMAND ACTION?

Rinse, repeat.

Running for 2016 who have NO POWER?

Poor powerless rubes. Foolish thought on face value.

How long we as citizens to see these terrible Crimes be STOPPED? Can anyone answer this?

Apparently for the remainder of this century if you listen to some duers who claim economic justice would cure all that ails us.

Truly a tone-deaf and offensive op. So, you are in opposition to BLM tactics. That is clear. If they change tactics, another reason will be found.

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