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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:13 PM Jul 2015

A co-chair of Ralph Nader's 2000 campaign has started promoting Senator Sanders.

Last edited Mon Jul 20, 2015, 04:09 PM - Edit history (1)

Jim Hightower stumped for him across the country, appearing at many 'super-rallies' for Nader.

My wife and I subscribed to his newsletter for many years. Canceled it late that year. Big stack of them went into the recycling bin a long time ago.

Yep, we #FeelTheBern. A true populist campaign! @berniesanders #Election2016
https://twitter.com/HightowerNews/status/621729910067974145

This is hardly unexpected. And the current 'super-rallies' will not have the disastrous effect they did 15 years ago. Negligible effect, in fact.

On Edit: For the record, I do not expect Senator Sanders to run 3rd party once he loses the nomination.

On Edit 2: This is a shot of a Nader 'super-rally' in 2000. Looks familiar:

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A co-chair of Ralph Nader's 2000 campaign has started promoting Senator Sanders. (Original Post) onehandle Jul 2015 OP
WEll. n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #1
This could have a mixed effect, but I'm pretty sure it'll be primarily negative. George II Jul 2015 #2
I'd say all negative. shenmue Jul 2015 #3
How come? cyberswede Jul 2015 #11
Yeah, why would we want to absorb the greens into being activists for the democratic party? kenfrequed Jul 2015 #4
They aren't the right sort of people!!!1!!1!!eleven!! (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #31
"any activism for someone running for the democratic nomination should sort of be a welcome thing" beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #43
I'm sure you're pretty sure. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #5
Sad thing about Hightower is I am pretty sure his heart is in the right place. stevenleser Jul 2015 #6
He's good guy. Senator Sanders is a good guy. Ralph Nader was a good guy. onehandle Jul 2015 #10
Sanders is a great guy. Ralph Nader is not a good guy. iandhr Jul 2015 #19
I agree. That's why I said Ralph Nader WAS a good guy. onehandle Jul 2015 #23
Yeah, he's a really good guy... whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #24
What? rsexaminer Jul 2015 #7
Because "Sanders is in the pocket of the NRA" just isn't getting the traction that was anticipated. frylock Jul 2015 #17
Like this was not expected? William769 Jul 2015 #8
And? cyberswede Jul 2015 #9
So we might get green party people ibegurpard Jul 2015 #12
Because Green Party people are too stupid to tell.... iandhr Jul 2015 #14
So you're saying ibegurpard Jul 2015 #21
Well one iandhr Jul 2015 #27
So the horror of this is they will not vote, or they will not vote... jeff47 Jul 2015 #29
If Scott Walker ends up as President.... iandhr Jul 2015 #30
Except you are claiming they already will not vote. jeff47 Jul 2015 #32
Yes. That's their logic. Pretty stupid, isn't it? London Lover Man Jul 2015 #38
How about that ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #13
oh noes!!12 frylock Jul 2015 #15
What's your point? 99Forever Jul 2015 #16
Yeah, it's a pot of something. progressoid Jul 2015 #22
Is this like when Colin Powell endorsed Obama? progressoid Jul 2015 #18
Nope. George II Jul 2015 #20
I have no problem with this dsc Jul 2015 #25
MY GOD!! jeff47 Jul 2015 #26
Hahaha awesome! whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #28
:-) MuseRider Jul 2015 #35
lol! HappyMe Jul 2015 #37
Well that's deep! AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #33
Oh my God. Sander is Nader spelled sideways. A coincident? I think not. GoneFishin Jul 2015 #34
OMG OMG OMG!!11 progressoid Jul 2015 #36
K&R sheshe2 Jul 2015 #39
Good news! Thanks. nt Zorra Jul 2015 #40
WILL you give it up already! eom LiberalElite Jul 2015 #41
Looks like Jim Hightower didn't learn from the mistake he made with Nader. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #42

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
11. How come?
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:33 PM
Jul 2015

Here's a link to the Hightower Lowdown - I used to subscribe to the print copy - it was pretty funny & informative.

http://www.hightowerlowdown.org/

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
4. Yeah, why would we want to absorb the greens into being activists for the democratic party?
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:24 PM
Jul 2015

Seriously, any activism for someone running for the democratic nomination should sort of be a welcome thing.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
43. "any activism for someone running for the democratic nomination should sort of be a welcome thing"
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 09:41 PM
Jul 2015

Aren't the HC supporters always telling us how important money is?



 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
6. Sad thing about Hightower is I am pretty sure his heart is in the right place.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:27 PM
Jul 2015

I've never met him personally, but someone who knows him well who I trust has a lot of good things to say about him.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
19. Sanders is a great guy. Ralph Nader is not a good guy.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 02:03 PM
Jul 2015

There is a big difference between them.

Sanders supports single payer healthcare. But he voted for the ACA because he knew 16,000,000 more people getting healthcare that they wouldn't have gotten otherwise is better than the number 0. He ignored the whiners on the far left who called the ACA a "betrayal"


Ralph Nader helped give us George Bush as President. He said there was no difference between Gore and Bush.


That is the difference between Bernie and Ralph.

rsexaminer

(321 posts)
7. What?
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:27 PM
Jul 2015

I don't get why people are comparing Nadar, a 3rd party, to Sanders who is running for the Democratic nomination.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
17. Because "Sanders is in the pocket of the NRA" just isn't getting the traction that was anticipated.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 02:01 PM
Jul 2015

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
14. Because Green Party people are too stupid to tell....
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:58 PM
Jul 2015

... the difference between Democrats and Republicans.


That is one of the reasons Bush got elected.

If Bernie doesn't get the nomination these people won't vote. Because these people don't think there is a difference between Hillary Clinton and Scott Walker and we might get a Republican president again because of it.

There is a big difference between Bernie and the people who say the love him on the interest.


Bernie is a smart pragmatic politician.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
21. So you're saying
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 02:07 PM
Jul 2015

That nominating Sanders would be a mistake because green party people who otherwise wouldn't be voting might vote for him?

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
27. Well one
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 02:16 PM
Jul 2015

Sanders can't win a General election.


Two far left wing purists will not vote if they don't get get there way. They will certainly sit out if Bernie doesn't win.


iandhr

(6,852 posts)
30. If Scott Walker ends up as President....
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 02:22 PM
Jul 2015

... and he does to America what he did to Wisconsin then yes.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
32. Except you are claiming they already will not vote.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 02:24 PM
Jul 2015

So there would be no change in the result.

Seriously, you're going to have to spend more than a minute thinking about your attack before unleashing it. Have the decency to make sure it's at least internally consistent before posting.

 

London Lover Man

(371 posts)
38. Yes. That's their logic. Pretty stupid, isn't it?
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 02:52 PM
Jul 2015

Like I've said a few times - Bernie attracts everyone from ALL spectrums... It is not surprising that he is getting support from the Greens.

I recommend that they abandon Dr. Stein and focus on unifying all left spectrum to elect Bernie.

dsc

(52,164 posts)
25. I have no problem with this
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 02:12 PM
Jul 2015

and respect Hightower. I have no idea if he did rallies for Nader in swing states or just states like Texas. In any case, I know Sanders knows better than to run outside of the primaries and I think Hightower does as well.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
42. Looks like Jim Hightower didn't learn from the mistake he made with Nader.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 09:34 PM
Jul 2015

Sad. I wish he had spent more time stumping for Wendy Davis in Texas.

Well, I am pretty sure Bernie won't run third party. He is no Nader. So Jim will not be able to repeat his Nader mistake.

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