WTH is "The Test"?

[whatchamacallit]

What is the criteria for passing or failing, and to whom is it being given?

[MohRokTah]

1. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251461568

[sabrina 1]

6. Oh, the New Republic, that explains everything.

Meanwhile in the Real World, AAs are organizing as we speak for Bernie in Harlem, in SF, in Texas and pretty much around the country.

Black Women For Bernie, are helping to get the word out about a candidate who has, as they say, the best record on Civil Rights of all those running in this campaign.

I would think that people who actually care about these issues would be happy to learn that many AAs, Latinos and also women and Gays, believe they finally have a candidate who speaks for them and who is not just talking as candidates tend to do.

Very exciting to see the movement building to stop the Corporate takeover of this country. To equal justice for all Americans, people across the political spectrum joining together because they care about this country.

DU is a small corner of the internet with a few people who claim to speak for many, which they do not, not by a longshot. But hey, it's politics, if people want to waste their time slamming Dem candidates instead of actually DOING something, they are free to do that, while so many others are out there doing the work to make sure the issues they say they care about are actually addressed.

[AtomicKitten]

18. It's this season's Clinton CIC readiness test.

Remember when the Clintons endorsed the Republican candidate and trash-talked the Democratic nominee?
Ahhhhh, good times.

[sabrina 1]

24. I didn't remember that, no. Sad, Liebermann did the same thing airc, supported

McCain yet was welcome with open arms in the Dem party. Yet we little people are supposed to completely loyal, never say a critical word against any Dem, no matter how right leaning they are.

Shame, the party needs a complete overhaul, more Progressives to help those who are there, trying to get things done, not just fighting Repubs, but their own party also.

[sabrina 1]

2. Good question. I think it's just a DU thing. Haven't seen much anywhere else, which is

why it's good to remember that what is important to a few people on DU, isn't even being mentioned in most other places.

[sufrommich]

3. " I think it's just a DU thing. Haven't seen much anywhere else"

Oh my God.

[zappaman]

5. Incredible ain't it?

[sabrina 1]

9. What's incredible? I'll be more than happy to expand on what I said.

Someone asked this already, but what do you support, not support, who do you want for President, why, what about Sanders on the issues do you disagree with, or do you NOT disagree with him.

This is a discussion board, why do you not discuss anything, drive by emoticons don't say much, why don't you say anything? Where do YOU stand on the issues?

Let's have a discussion, I'm interested in discussion, how about you?

[whatchamacallit]

10. You're talking to

an "O'Malley supporter" who obviously thinks what happened to his candidate is just dandy.

[sabrina 1]

12. Really? I would be promoting my candidate who would have been O'Malley

had Bernie not decided to run. What happened to O'Malley and Sanders is not going over too well on Social Media. A lot people have asked, but are not getting much response, of those who organized it, when they will be going after Republicans. I asked that question, the response I got was 'that's stupid, why should we go after them when they don't even want our votes'? I think they do want minority votes. But that's not the point.

Meantime AAs for Bernie are busy organizing for him around the country this weekend. Reading DU you would think that everyone in the world was watching NRN when the truth is, hardly anyone, other than Daily Kos who started it, even knows about it.

It's a big world out there. NRN hasn't quite become the 'liberal' powerhouse they had hoped it would become. Many Pols no longer go there to speak, because it does turn into a shouting match, this isn't the first time. I wonder if it will even exist by next year, they counted on Politicians being there but I can't say I blame any of them who experienced this kind of thing, who no longer attend.

[zappaman]

19. No.

[sabrina 1]

25. That's very deep. So, do you support Sanders on the issues, if not, why, which ones, how

about Hillary, why does she not support the minimum wage?

Why are you afraid to discuss who you support or where you stand on the issues? Don't be afraid, speak up, so, a few not too bright people might slam you or try to, because they don't like what you say, but who cares? If MOST people agree with you, which on a Dem forum should be the case, why be afraid of a few children, I always assume the kids got a hold of the computer when that happens.

Anyhow, does 'no' mean you cannot discuss issues? If not, why not? Or does it mean you cannot tell anyone who you support, or IF you don't agree with Sanders on issues?

Why are you on a discussion board if you can't discuss anything? I'm curious, that's how I learn, I ask questions. Sometimes inconvenient questions, but that's how we learn, isn't it? If you get a straight answer, as you do from Bernie eg, that's great. If you don't get an answer, you know someone is afraid to answer for some reason, so again, you learn something. Eg, I'm learning right now.

[zappaman]

14. I am?

Thanks for telling me who I support.
I thought I was waiting but you got me all figured out!


That saying about "assumptions" must have had you in mind.

[whatchamacallit]

15. Oh shit...

I got you mixed up with Snooper. Easy to do. My bad.

[zappaman]

16. I like all 3 front runner candidates.

Any would be fine as President.

[whatchamacallit]

17. Dig.

[zappaman]

21. Although the metric system IS my number one concern, so considering Chaffee as well...

[whatchamacallit]

22. !

[sabrina 1]

27. Waiting? What for?

I thought you were a Hillary supporter. So you're not a Hillary supporter, why?

[zappaman]

30. Perhaps you can show me where I said I was a Hillary supporter.

You leave the biggest imagination on DU!

[sabrina 1]

8. Oh there's lots to see everywhere else, just not what is preoccupying

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a couple of people on DU. I will be posting about it when I get time. Very exciting things going on everywhere else.

Btw, what does your 'Oh my God' mean?


And can you tell us where you disagree with Bernie Sanders on the issues, you have never done that.

And do you agree with Hillary opposing the Minimum Wage?

Can you tell people where Hillary stands on the TPP?

Why don't you promote your candidate?

Is it because you don't think there is much to promote, or what?

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

4. It's flame-baiting

being pushed by someone who thinks the rest of the world revolves around the things he believes, rather than taking people at their own words as to what they're doing.

Black Lives Matter protests are about just that. They're not some racial litmus test for candidates, any more than than Bernie is 'just there to move Hillary left'. The rest of the world doesn't revolve around Hillary, and it doesn't revolve around Bernie. Sometimes they're simply characters in other people's stories, not always the protagonists.

[J_J_]

7. The test is to see how many people will fall for a bunch of contrived bullshit

Did Obama pass their test?

He is still in power, they need to go talk to him.

[HooptieWagon]

11. A political "strategy" of attacking allies...

To help opponents get elected.
Your guess is as good as mine in trying to figure out the logic of this.

[sabrina 1]

13. But when something fails so spectacularly why would anyone keep on beating

a dead horse? They need to get out in the real world and see the reaction to this tactic. Put it this way, if I were Hillary, I would ask my supporters to stop embarrassing me, as she is being blamed, rightly or wrongly, for the actions of her supporters.

For Benie it is working very well. It is proof of what he says about the money in politics, how it is destroying our electoral system. All he has to do is keep on drawing in the crowds by delivering his very Progressive Message, and leave them scrambling to try to stop him.

I just show people those posts when I want to demonstrate the way money kills discussion of the issues, and degrades it into nasty personal attacks. Then I ask what people think of it, disgust is usually the response. So let them keep going, while Bernie keeps soaring. Fine by me! Lol!

[HooptieWagon]

20. I understand their anger. I don't understand their logic of who to be angry at.

President Obama has done little. AGs Holder and Lynch have done little. Shouldn't BLM be angry at them? Or at the House and Senate Judiciary Committees? Several CBC members are even on the House Committee... John Conyers, Shelia Jackson Lee, Hakeem Jefferies, Hank Johnson, and Cedric Richmond. Shouldn't BLM be engaging them? WTF?

[AgingAmerican]

29. Or many among them

...support Hillary. That would explain a lot.

[zappaman]

23. The "real world" is where this happened.

But I'm sure they appreciate your oh so perfect advice.

[murielm99]

26. The real world....

Oh, that.

I went to a gathering on Sunday. There were about a hundred people there. They were mostly educated people, professionals, people in the hard sciences and education. There were all ages present, but many of them were millennials. Few were my age, which is mid-sixties.

Most of them knew very little about the NN event, this tempest in a teapot. My thirty-one-year-old daughter knew a bit, because she has a friend who goes to NN events. She told me she would ask him about the incident.

Seriously. No one knew. No one cared.

You people need to find other ways to present your candidate. Get out and do some legwork. Talk to people face-to-face. I don't care who you prefer for President. Let this go. Stop beating this dead horse.

[sabrina 1]

28. I've talked directly to them. How about you, they've told me they think it would

be 'stupid' to do this to Republicans, I didn't agree and told them so.

It's great that you can go straight to the people you want to talk to now, thanks to technology.

In the Real World, you are right it is a tiny part of the real world, they got a lot of criticism for not going after Repubs and for saying they won't be doing that. For not going to the DOJ where there is power to do something, and demanding action, like Federal Prosecutions, NOT 'reports'.

So, what did you do to try to understand what happened?

I want the murder by cops to END. I want to know what people are doing to make that happen.

I wanted to know how that event at NRN was going to stop the killing, the murders, the brutality the horror that should have every American out on the streets demanding an end to it.

Were you out on the streets, have you been supporting this movement in any way??? What are you doing other than sitting here posting roly poly guys?


Lots of people don't see what that event did to save one AA life. O'Malley and Sanders don't have the power over the police right now. The DOJ does, they could file Federal charges, but they haven't. Why?

It IS an emergency, people are dying every day almost at the hands of the cops, and/or being brutalized, jailed for being Black. Those who have the power are not being shouted down, why?

So how does a couple of minutes of shouting at an event few people ever heard of STOP all this?

I asked them directly. Did you? The answer, it doesn't! So, now let's move on to doing something that MIGHT save a life. Unless this is all just about politics for some people.

[haikugal]

31. .

You expressed my impatience with this very well. Lives are being lost, ruined and made unbearably brutal. Let's stop it! This is about all of us, not separate groups...ALL of us,
E pluribus unum..either together we succeed or surely separately we will hang, or killed by police, or wrongly incarcerated...be targeted for monetary thievery, you name it. We are in this together!

Thanks Sabrina 1, you can speak for me anytime!

[zappaman]

32. Yes, you tell us incessantly how often you speak at black folks.

We get it.