The day Hillary lost to President Obama

[Fearless]

You may remember... I cringe even now watching it. Just the first minute. From this day on, the campaign was downhill.

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The moral of the story is, people smell fake a mile away. And she reeks of fake, from her choreographed "public" events to her outdated and uninspired platform. That is why Bernie is gaining momentum each and every time he speaks. He doesn't triangulate his "beliefs" based on poll data, doesn't need to "evolve" into doing that everyone already knows is right. He's the real deal. And watch all the Hillary supporters attack what I've posted, and watch them attack across the site and across the web. Watch the Hillary campaign start attacking Bernie. It is then, when they stop ignoring him that you know they're scared.

[redstateblues]

1. Your not cringing you're reveling

Why don't you just stay focused on being positive about your candidate. When you post an attack piece you will definitely get some blowback which is obviously what you want so you can not only trash the candidate but the supporters as well. Can you post something that doesn't trash Hillary? Didn't think so. I don't think Bernie would approve of your tactics.

[onehandle]

2. I'm scared.

No I'm not. Our next President:

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[DURHAM D]

3. LOL

[oasis]

6. Hill will not be denied this time around and she'll do it her way.

[redstateblues]

4. Bernie has class. You need to get some

[dr_hfuhruhurr]

5. She's not much better as a speaker now.

Really, really wonder why anyone would pay $$$ to hear her speak unless they wanted something in return..

[JI7]

7. her support is not based on how she speaks

people know she isn't some great orator . they see her as experienced and highly qualified and in her case "likeable enough" is good enough for them.

[6chars]

19. parallels to george hw bush sr.

lost to the charismatic reagan in 1980. served in admin and forged a uniquely strong resume (for a R, or course). people didnt like him that much but enough of them trusted him to get elected.

[Sunlei]

8. I like them both. They both have to much class & party loyality to ever 'attack' each other

They both have different styles of speaking. Both have spoken for decades to quite different audiences. I doubt Senator Sanders would make a good SOS, but he would be a good president or VP.

[Indepatriot]

9. "Shame on you Barack Obama"....

[artislife]

10. I remember. nt

[AtomicKitten]

14. Samantha Power summed it up nicely.

"She's a monster."

[Indepatriot]

11. You can hear the desperation in her voice.

She knows it's slipping away. BONUS POINTS for her touching story about offshoring. Seems Candidate Clinton "evolved" from pro-labor to pro-TPP.

[SunSeeker]

12. Not cringe-inducing at all, other than she was losing her voice.

So what if she did a riff on "Yes We Can" by saying "Yes We Will"? As in, not only CAN we do it, we WILL do it. That simply reflects her hard working "will do" attitude. As far as the things she was saying, she's still saying them now, and so is Bernie. If you keep watching past the first minute, the video shows she genuinely cares about people. She noticed someone in the audience was not doing well in the heat and passed down her water bottle to them from the stage. It was a very human moment (probably why you instructed the readers to watch just the first minute).

This video does not encapsulate why she lost to Obama. She lost to Obama because Obama is a once in a lifetime leader. Even then, she almost beat him. Technically, she got more total votes than Obama.

Another Hillary smear fail.

[delrem]

13. I don't like that her real record as SoS was to ramp up the war in the ME.

She hired Victoria Nuland, a top Cheney advisor, and as SoS she fine tuned it.

The total lack of *caring* scares the shit out of me.
Please, USA, do not do this.

[msongs]

16. she was doing what obama told her to do nt

[delrem]

17. I don't like it. Do you like it?

Also, I don't believe your claim that Hillary Clinton was nothing more than a robot, controlled by Obama, who did what she was told and had no input. That story is ridiculous on every single level.

It's beyond lame.

[Sheepshank]

41. She didn't ramp up Jack Shit as SOS

what a strange statement to make.

[DesertFlower]

15. i've never been a fan of hillary. goes back

to when she was first lady. something about her "rubbed me the wrong way". i'm voting for bernie in the primary, but if she is the nominee she will get my vote. she's better than any republican.

[delrem]

18. Is she?

Is it better to have the Democratic party reduced in that extreme way, so it'll reduced even further in future elections?
Even more extreme warmongering, war profiteering, more extreme corporatist control?

I think it'd be better to swallow a loss and rebuild, so at least the future has a hope of having a real opposition.

[DesertFlower]

20. look what 8 years of bush did. we still

haven't been able to undo all the damage he did. the repubs running today will do far more damage than he did. i fear we'll never recover if that happens.

in '04 many dems did not like kerry. one was my late husband who refused to vote. i spoke to a lot of people after that election who said they didn't like kerry and felt bush were the lesser of 2 evils. look how well that went.

[delrem]

21. With Hillary Clinton as SoS the USA doubled down on the WoT.

You now have ISIS.
Some pretend that Bush was alone in causing it, as if there was no continuity up to the present.
But that's a flat out lie.

The Obama admin didn't even TRY to undo the damage that Bush did in the WoT. Pres. Obama called torturers "patriots". At best, it tried to paper it over and hide it with SoS Clinton's "leading from behind" and "Friends of Libya" and "Friends of Syria", using drones and mercenaries and puppet gov'ts directing puppet armies (which also run mercenary armies), claiming that "no US boots on the ground" was sufficient moral justification for the continuing slaughter. Sick. Sick. Sick.

[SunSeeker]

23. What's sick is you repeating right wing talking points.

"Leading ftom behind"? Obama caused ISIS? Really?

Worse, you suggest it would be better for Dems if we lose than if Hillary wins. Unfuckingbelievable.

[delrem]

24. "Leading from behind" is Hillary's description.

The continuity exists.

The destruction of Libya is fact. The intent to institute "regime change" in Syria is fact.

Deal with it. But don't try to lie yourself out of it.

[SunSeeker]

25. You're blaming ISIS on Obama leading from behind. That is standard Fox propaganda.

You should be embarrassed.

[delrem]

26. I state simple and well known facts.

[SunSeeker]

27. Those are not facts. nt

[delrem]

30. Of course they are!

This is just ridiculous!

[SunSeeker]

35. Well, it is a fact you're blaming ISIS on Obama.

And yes, that is ridiculous.

[Sheepshank]

42. Well known facts in Freeperville.

The rest of the world realized what Bush did tht lead to the birth of Isis.

That you fail to recognize this and double down on RW talkig points is a fucking embarassment for DU.

[TwilightGardener]

43. Letting up on the WOT wouldn't have prevented ISIS.

They were hiding out in the chaos of Syria, biding their time, and re-entered Iraq when the Maliki government had sufficiently pissed off and alienated the Sunni population in places like Mosul. But ISIS' origins are in the jails of Iraq during the time of the insurgency.

[Flying Squirrel]

22. No way I'm swallowing another loss

The Supreme Court is too important, not to mention everything else that could go wrong with Repukes in charge of the House

[Hoyt]

31. +1.

[onehandle]

33. Ralph Nader? That you? nt

[quickesst]

28. just another gathering...

...of those bearing far more hatred of Hillary Clinton than support for Bernie Sanders. Kind of pathetic desperation.

[Metric System]

29. Nope, not even worth responding to this crap.

[Cosmocat]

32. She lost to barrack obama on october 16, 2002

BHO never has the air to challenge her if she does not make that vote.

[PDittie]

34. I watched on a Jumbotron at the TX Dem Party state convention

in the Austin Convention Center as she conceded. It was a Saturday afternoon. I saw grown men in blue jean overalls and Cat Diesel Power caps with tears running down their face.

The next day, at the general assembly of delegates, I saw two people from a Deep East Texas Senate district wearing black T-shirts with NOBAMA on the back. That was a first.

Those folks are going to be real mad all over again if Hillary chokes a second time.

[whatchamacallit]

36. Wow, was that ever inspiring!

Had to turn it off 1/2 way through.

[Beacool]

37. I should bookmark all these anti-Hillary posts, but they are too many.

Therefore, I will just chuckle and lift my glass in a toast when Sanders does not win the nomination.

[DCBob]

38. LOL... what a load!

I smell fake concern.

[Fearless]

44. Not actually concerned at all. She will lose again.

[George II]

39. Hillary Clinton never lost to President Obama, she was defeated by Candidate Obama...

....and hopefully when Senator Sanders loses to Candidate Clinton he'll be as loyal to the person who defeats him as she has been to the person who defeated her.

For some reason I don't think that will be the case.

[karynnj]

40. Well, maybe if President Clinton gives Bernie a position in her administration as important as Obama

gave her, he would be as loyal. He might not even run his department, abiding by any agreements she makes with him. I really would not expect him to run his email out of his home in Burlington.