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beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 04:39 AM Jul 2015

Bernie Sanders: "we are far from eradicating racism".

Sanders: Charleston Shooting Reminder Of 'Ugly Stain Of Racism' In US

Presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) on Thursday condemned the shooting at a historically black church in Charleston, S.C. as a "tragic reminder of the ugly stain of racism" tainting America.

"This senseless violence fills me with outrage, disgust and a deep, deep sadness," Sanders tweeted.

In a longer statement, the Democratic presidential contender said the killings, which were blamed on a white suspect whose victims included state Sen. Clementa Pinckney (D), showed that the U.S. had a long way to go in escaping its history of racial violence.

"The hateful killing of nine people praying inside a church is a horrific reminder that, while we have made significant progress in advancing civil rights in this country, we are far from eradicating racism," he said.

"Our thoughts and prayers are with the families and their congregation," Sanders added.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/charleston-shooting-bernie-sanders-racism




Sanders denounces racism, divisive politics of Trump in address to La Raza

U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, who is running for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016, addressed the annual convention of the National Council of La Raza on July 13, calling for comprehensive immigration reform and denouncing those who would divide Americans over race and national origin.

...

While “racism has plagued the United States since its inception,” Sanders said the nation has advanced. “We should be proud that in recent decades we have made real progress,” he said. But he cautioned that voices of division remain and must be forcefully rejected.

“Not Donald Trump, not anyone else will be successful in dividing us based on race or on our country of origin. America becomes a greater nation, a stronger nation, when we stand together as one people and in a loud and clear voice we say no to racism and bigotry,” Sanders said.

http://www.wisconsingazette.com/political/sanders-denounces-racism-divisive-politics-of-trump-in-address-to-la-raza.html



Bernie doesn't think we've overcome racism at all.

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Bernie Sanders: "we are far from eradicating racism". (Original Post) beam me up scottie Jul 2015 OP
+1 nt Live and Learn Jul 2015 #1
+1. nt silvershadow Jul 2015 #2
Thank you, Bernie. democrank Jul 2015 #3
Once again, Bernie's unafraid to raise progressive issues that some may not want to hear, but need to hear. That's what an authentic leader does. Go Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #4
You said it. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #5
ikr! and he'll answer questions too! without hedging or trying to straddle the issue like some politicians. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #6
K&R! marym625 Jul 2015 #7
Yes, at best it's disingenuous to claim that he thinks we've "overcome racism". beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #14
and we both know marym625 Jul 2015 #18
+1 dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #42
Talk about jumping the shark. n/t jen63 Jul 2015 #53
K&R Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #8
Giving this a kick cyberswede Jul 2015 #9
Disappointing but not out of character. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #15
It was disingenuous to suggest anything different. Curmudgeoness Jul 2015 #10
Exactly, thank you. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #17
It is very polite to call it disingenuous. arcane1 Jul 2015 #27
This. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #32
thanks Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #11
Kicking again Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #12
K&R LostOne4Ever Jul 2015 #13
Yes, it is. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #20
Kick again. Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #16
Bernie gets it. LiberalAndProud Jul 2015 #19
K&R CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #21
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #22
Hey you! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #24
Context is key Lordquinton Jul 2015 #23
Indeed it is. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #25
Please stop posting facts here, will you? You're destroying the sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #26
Yes I hear they're very expensive these days. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #29
Again, the focus should be on comparing what he says to what is said on the right. randys1 Jul 2015 #28
I let others decide what matters to them. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #30
Anyone can decide how they feel about anything, but no one has the right to make shit up. cui bono Jul 2015 #36
K & R historylovr Jul 2015 #31
rec'd for highlighting the truth Vattel Jul 2015 #33
Truth. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #34
"Bernie doesn't think we've overcome racism at all." cui bono Jul 2015 #35
Thanks! I don't mind at all, cui bono. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #37
It sure seems that way. cui bono Jul 2015 #39
Well the op made it to #5 on the Greatest. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #41
They are trying to ruin the reputation of a good man for sport. Juicy_Bellows Jul 2015 #43
My pleasure. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #44
Thanks for posting this. John Poet Jul 2015 #38
You're welcome. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #40
Kicking for Bernie! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #45
Every time that swift boating thread rises to the top, I kick! Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #46
Right there with ya, Luminous Animal. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #47
! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #50
There you go ruining a perfectly good smear. pa28 Jul 2015 #48
I know. I should be ashamed of myself. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #49
I've gotta kick again for truth. historylovr Jul 2015 #51
How many times must Bernie directly and adroitly speak to this issue Maedhros Jul 2015 #52
Kick! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #54

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
4. Once again, Bernie's unafraid to raise progressive issues that some may not want to hear, but need to hear. That's what an authentic leader does. Go Bernie!
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:17 AM
Jul 2015

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
6. ikr! and he'll answer questions too! without hedging or trying to straddle the issue like some politicians.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 09:22 AM
Jul 2015

Go Bernie Go!

marym625

(17,997 posts)
7. K&R!
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 09:27 AM
Jul 2015

Truly sick of the crap being posted saying Senator Sanders believes it has been eradicated. One sentence, taken out of context, doesn't and shouldn't overshadow work, record and every other comment on the subject before and after.

It's just disingenuous bullshit.

Luckily, thinking people, know better. Glad for the current endorsements by black people for Sanders. Looking forward to other Black Caucuses and people of color endorsing Sanders.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
14. Yes, at best it's disingenuous to claim that he thinks we've "overcome racism".
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 04:46 PM
Jul 2015

At worst it's deliberately dishonest to ignore what he said above and needlessly divisive.


dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
42. +1
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 04:52 AM
Jul 2015

I saw the most recent thread that I think you're referring to, surprised it wasn't hidden, total misrepresentation of Sander's statements.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
15. Disappointing but not out of character.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 04:48 PM
Jul 2015

I used to expect better from so called liberals but then 2008 happened.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
10. It was disingenuous to suggest anything different.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:02 PM
Jul 2015

Bernie is aware, as we all are, that racism exists in every corner of this country. I don't understand why there are people who feel the need to conjure up lies about any Democratic candidate. We should be leaving that up to the Republicans.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
17. Exactly, thank you.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 05:12 PM
Jul 2015

I refuse to attack Hillary Clinton using made up smears and quotes taken out of context.

Especially when it comes to something as important as racial injustice.

This isn't a game to me.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
27. It is very polite to call it disingenuous.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:22 PM
Jul 2015

Some people may be hearing these things and running with them, but the people originating the smears know exactly what they are doing.

LostOne4Ever

(9,290 posts)
13. K&R
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:17 PM
Jul 2015

Last edited Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:42 PM - Edit history (1)

[font color=teal size=4]It is ridiculous that we are resorting to these kind of baseless attacks on good democrats. Bernie Sanders or Clinton.[/font]

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
20. Yes, it is.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 06:47 PM
Jul 2015

Thank you.

I refuse to participate and I wish all supporters would try to remember that we're supposed to be better than that.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
25. Indeed it is.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:15 PM
Jul 2015

I'm not willing to let that kind of stunt go unchallenged.

Debate the issues with facts, not false claims.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
26. Please stop posting facts here, will you? You're destroying the
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:16 PM
Jul 2015

talking points, and as far as I know a lot of money is spent on those talking points!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
29. Yes I hear they're very expensive these days.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:32 PM
Jul 2015

So much so that people have decided to DIY on DU.

Can't argue the merits of your own candidate?

Just invent something about the other guy and post it as fact.

I mean it's not like he's a Democratic candidate who deserves better or anything.


randys1

(16,286 posts)
28. Again, the focus should be on comparing what he says to what is said on the right.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:24 PM
Jul 2015

I know about the concern about his comment about Obama winning and racism being overcome, and those comments are for the AfAm community to decide how they feel.

What matters outside of the AfAm community is that we contrast this comment about racism NOT being over with the assholes on the right, who not only dont see it as a problem but are doing everything they can to reverse the progress made.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
30. I let others decide what matters to them.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:45 PM
Jul 2015

Not challenging false claims made about my candidate is not an option, no matter which side of the aisle they come from.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
36. Anyone can decide how they feel about anything, but no one has the right to make shit up.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 01:12 AM
Jul 2015

And that OP was a swiftboat piece purposely posted in a protected group so as not to be defended. It was just as vile and incorrect as #1 and #2 swiftboat OPs from that poster.

There is no excuse for those RW type tactics.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
35. "Bernie doesn't think we've overcome racism at all."
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 01:07 AM
Jul 2015

But that's not what someone who thinks he's "not enough" says... and all those who applauded that person and rec'd that #3 swiftboat thread from Bernie's favorite RW impersonator.

You are blowing my mind beamie!!! (I hope you don't mind my nickname. )

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
37. Thanks! I don't mind at all, cui bono.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 02:07 AM
Jul 2015

The swift boaters for Hillary here don't care about truth, it's all a game to them.

It's not even political; they have no idea where she stands on the issues and they really don't care.

They are trying to ruin the reputation of a good man for sport.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
39. It sure seems that way.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 03:44 AM
Jul 2015

Especially the ones who used to post really nasty things about her when she was running against Obama.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
43. They are trying to ruin the reputation of a good man for sport.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 04:59 AM
Jul 2015

Sure seems that way to me.

Thank you for saying it.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
38. Thanks for posting this.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 02:41 AM
Jul 2015

I've been getting a little sick of reading that Bernie has "said nothing" or "doesn't care" about racism, blah blah blah.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
52. How many times must Bernie directly and adroitly speak to this issue
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:46 AM
Jul 2015

before the "he hasn't said enough" crew gives him at least some begrudging credit for doing exactly what they are asking for?

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