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Omaha Steve

(99,744 posts)
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 07:29 PM Jul 2015

AP: Democratic activists still not quite ready for Clinton



An audience guest tries to restrain an environmental activist who interrupted Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton during a town hall meeting in Dover, NH, Thursday, July 16, 2015. (AP Photo/Charles Krupa)

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/f71be1a730f84030b34c2380a3b279b3/democratic-activists-still-not-quite-ready-clinton


By KEN THOMAS and LISA LERER
Jul. 16, 2015 6:53 PM EDT

PHOENIX (AP) — Three months into Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign for president, there are fresh warning signs she may be falling short with some Democratic voters whose enthusiasm will be essential to her success in 2016.

While Clinton remains the front-runner for her party's nomination, new polling by Associated Press-GfK shows a drop in her favorability rating among Democrats. Financial disclosure documents filed by her campaign show the bulk of her money coming from big donors, hinting at low enthusiasm with average supporters. And she's facing pushback on her positions from some liberal activists on the campaign trail and at party gatherings.

Clinton was noticeably absent from the roster of speakers expected this week in Phoenix at the Netroots Nation convention, an annual gathering of about 3,000 liberal activists and organizers who frequently volunteer on presidential campaigns. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, a rival for the Democratic nomination, and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren planned to address the conference. Several attendees said the two liberal luminaries were pushing Clinton to the left but that they still had reservations about her candidacy.

"I think a lot of people will talk themselves into thinking what a great president Hillary Clinton will be," said Jose Martinez Diaz, a 36-year-old Democratic digital organizer from Washington, D.C.

FULL story at link.
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AP: Democratic activists still not quite ready for Clinton (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jul 2015 OP
Once Bernie fades from the picture, they'll be ready. nt DanTex Jul 2015 #1
2024 is to late for her Motown_Johnny Jul 2015 #3
LOL Fawke Em Jul 2015 #7
Nice. You win this round... DanTex Jul 2015 #22
That's all that Hillary ever seems to do...fade away. Fearless Jul 2015 #27
I have always said enthusiasm would be a factor London Lover Man Jul 2015 #2
"new polling by Associated Press-GfK shows a drop in her favorability rating among Democrats" L0oniX Jul 2015 #4
Oh, the frantic efforts to bury this LWolf Jul 2015 #8
They're ignoring the actual source, but claiming the image came from a right wing blog called London Lover Man Jul 2015 #14
Yeah ...had to LOL at the frantic thread trolling. L0oniX Jul 2015 #20
Just today, here, I saw a couple of polls that showed her favorability rating as rising... George II Jul 2015 #19
I think in a vacuum her campaign would be received better Doctor_J Jul 2015 #32
Oh look... lying Lisa Lerer again. DURHAM D Jul 2015 #5
Why does that man have his hands on her? BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #6
It looks creepy. bravenak Jul 2015 #10
It's unacceptable BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #11
Very sexist, imo. My husband would not have any hands after trying to push me down. bravenak Jul 2015 #12
LOL! BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #13
He would. To save the offender from me. :) bravenak Jul 2015 #15
ahahahahahaha BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #17
That is what is called battery. L0oniX Jul 2015 #21
Why isn't someone shouting at him to get his fucking hands off her? BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #24
In Florida he would be arrested and charged with battery. L0oniX Jul 2015 #26
there are enough conservative and republican activists on her side Doctor_J Jul 2015 #9
Same with Bernie William769 Jul 2015 #16
I'd rather get 95% of what I want in a candidate and work on the other 5% Fearless Jul 2015 #28
I know some people in South Carolina that would disagree with that. William769 Jul 2015 #29
They're quite free to disagree. Fearless Jul 2015 #37
That's why we're rallying behind Hillary Clinton. George II Jul 2015 #30
Then we have vastly different views for the future of this nation. Fearless Jul 2015 #38
/\_/\_This right here_/\_/\ Scuba Jul 2015 #41
95%? sheshe2 Jul 2015 #42
Number one I said 95% what I want in a candidate. Fearless Jul 2015 #43
Bernie supports background checks and ban on assault weapons Rockyj Jul 2015 #45
Actually, no Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #23
I can't remember a time when I saw an opinion poll anywhere... George II Jul 2015 #18
First Lady, US Senator, SoS Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #35
Re Picture: Dissent Must Be Silenced WillyT Jul 2015 #25
Bernie might push Clinton's rhetoric to the left, Unknown Beatle Jul 2015 #31
Rec'd ibewlu606 Jul 2015 #33
Totally wrong, but if it comforts you, shenmue Jul 2015 #46
Pretty telling that she's zentrum Jul 2015 #34
Hmmmm....might be something to that....nt artislife Jul 2015 #44
Hysterical shenmue Jul 2015 #47
Is that man a relative of the young lady ??? SamKnause Jul 2015 #36
This story tells is why we CAN NOT nominate Hillary if we want to win the GE Exilednight Jul 2015 #39
It does not look as if that lady sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #40

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
27. That's all that Hillary ever seems to do...fade away.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:55 PM
Jul 2015

Starts off "strong" and the moment someone else shows up, she fades.

 

London Lover Man

(371 posts)
2. I have always said enthusiasm would be a factor
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 07:35 PM
Jul 2015

Hillary is just as inspiring as watching paint dry. In other words, she's pretty predictable and boring, and represents the status quo. In other words, very little to no enthusiasm for Clinton. She has 100% name recognition, and she is losing supporters on a daily basis.

On the other hand, Bernie Sanders is very enthusiasm and appealing on all spectrum of the political system. From Marxist to Teabaggers, they hear Bernie's message and they LOVE it - he's speaking to their soul, and not their dollars. That's what is excites everyone - that Bernie is not thinking about the dollar amount that he can raise, but what he can do for them if he is elected as President of the United States. You can bet your bottom dollar that progressives will be riding on Bernie's coattails and recapturing both House and Senate - yes - even the House, despite the gerrymander - HIGH voter turnout can overcome gerrymandering.

 

London Lover Man

(371 posts)
14. They're ignoring the actual source, but claiming the image came from a right wing blog called
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:26 PM
Jul 2015

Powerline.

I say to them - WHATEVER. It's AP-GFK poll, and they're denying the facts. Period.

George II

(67,782 posts)
19. Just today, here, I saw a couple of polls that showed her favorability rating as rising...
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:41 PM
Jul 2015

....here's one:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/07/16/bernie-sanderss-limited-appeal-even-to-democrats/

I'll try to find the other one, but the "takeaway" from that one (gosh, I HATE that term, this is the first time I've ever used it, sorry!) was that of four candidates (Clinton, Sanders, Bush, and one other republican) she was the only one with a favorability rating higher than her unfavorability rating.

I guess it depends on which poll and which week we're looking at.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
32. I think in a vacuum her campaign would be received better
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 09:32 PM
Jul 2015

But with a straight shooter like Sanders in the race, her dodging, flip flopping, pandering, and corporate slant are really highlighted.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
6. Why does that man have his hands on her?
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 07:50 PM
Jul 2015

And why is nobody trying to stop him? What the fuck??? I don't care what this article is about, that is not ok under any circumstances.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
11. It's unacceptable
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:19 PM
Jul 2015

And people should be very angry about it in the photo but they are not. He's trying to physically force her to sit down (and shut up). That is not good and should be condemned.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
13. LOL!
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:25 PM
Jul 2015

I would not want to mess with bravenak! I hope your husband would also jump over a few rows of seats to get at any person who put is his hands on you. I know I would.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
9. there are enough conservative and republican activists on her side
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:05 PM
Jul 2015

She'll primarily be "reaching out" to them once elected anyway.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
28. I'd rather get 95% of what I want in a candidate and work on the other 5%
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 09:00 PM
Jul 2015

Instead of getting 5% of what I'm looking for in a candidate and work on the other 95%.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
43. Number one I said 95% what I want in a candidate.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:27 AM
Jul 2015

Number two, if you don't try you never succeed. I'm sick of this defeatist garbage.

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. I can't remember a time when I saw an opinion poll anywhere...
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:34 PM
Jul 2015

....that had the front runner at 100% and all the others at 0%. There will always be some who are "not quite ready" for a candidate.

We don't need everyone, just one more than the closest rival.

Omaha Steve

(99,744 posts)
35. First Lady, US Senator, SoS
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:16 PM
Jul 2015

They have known her for 25 years and she gets only 50-60% of Democrats?

Other than political junkies not many knew Bernie or O'Malley.

Those backing Bidden that isn't going to run already show she isn't a favorite of theirs. Where do those votes go in the primaries?

As long as she is seen as the front runner the right will keep unfairly singing Benghazi. They will whisper she is a woman. We know how the right thinks about women. They will misquote her. You know the drill.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
31. Bernie might push Clinton's rhetoric to the left,
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 09:23 PM
Jul 2015

but that's it, empty rhetoric. If Clinton is elected president, (which I don't think will happen) she will fall back to her old self, which is warmonger and wall streeter, among other things.

 

ibewlu606

(160 posts)
33. Rec'd
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 09:42 PM
Jul 2015

the guy in the video illustrates how the Clinton campaign feels about us "everyday Americans"........sit down and shut up.

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
36. Is that man a relative of the young lady ???
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 11:04 PM
Jul 2015

If not, he just assaulted her.

I would not react kindly to a stranger putting

their hands on me.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
39. This story tells is why we CAN NOT nominate Hillary if we want to win the GE
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 11:36 PM
Jul 2015
Republicans have been raising tens of millions of dollars to fuel their own nomination fight, yet they have already devoted significant time and resources to damaging Clinton's image.


They are beating her up so the independent vote peels away from her. Republicans don't want to be her to the point of Democrats not nominating her, but just to the point that undecideds won't elect her.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
40. It does not look as if that lady
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 11:50 PM
Jul 2015

is a threat to HRC. So is she using the same
tactics as W did?

That looks really bad.

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