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What about a Sanders/Nader ticket? (Original Post) graywarrior Jul 2015 OP
Sanders would never choose Nader as a running mate. nt Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #1
I doubt that Nader would run as a Democrat. ibegurpard Jul 2015 #2
Great idea. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2015 #3
Nader needs to be the top of the ticket. Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #4
Someone finally got the nerve up to drop a Nader. How proud you must be. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #5
lol. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #178
How about Hillary - Trump? Impedimentus Jul 2015 #6
Don't be ridiculous. Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #30
Please don't mention chicken. Ilios Meows Jul 2015 #38
Mmmm, chicken with cornflakes and whiskers.... bettyellen Jul 2015 #41
Poultry of any kind is a dicey topic here. Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #50
Or BEEF! Did I spellcheck fix that again? bettyellen Jul 2015 #107
He would if the chicken was named Slutvanka. graywarrior Jul 2015 #43
Skeevy, Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #47
With his infamous stump and proportional rump. graywarrior Jul 2015 #51
Oh look.... Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #60
I'd shoot him in his 1% if you get my meaning.. bettyellen Jul 2015 #66
If I catch your drift, Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #76
I caught your whiff..... bettyellen Jul 2015 #80
lol. graywarrior Jul 2015 #132
I Sniffa well my friend! I Sniffa just fine. bettyellen Jul 2015 #156
I'm alerting Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #164
Ricky Gervais must love him graywarrior Jul 2015 #131
Not surprisingly one can usually count on any thread on DU to take a shot at Hillary, even still_one Jul 2015 #63
Pot meet kettle. onecaliberal Jul 2015 #105
you ever melt a pot with a kettle? snooper2 Jul 2015 #116
,+1 840high Jul 2015 #140
No and no. Vinca Jul 2015 #7
I've seen a few stupid people say they're the same n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #8
Trolling us, right? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #9
Nope 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #10
to be a spoiler you have to make the other guy lose MisterP Jul 2015 #134
I think Sanders / Swag would be better. I think Swag is going places! bettyellen Jul 2015 #11
Why is there no like button? graywarrior Jul 2015 #14
If there are buttons, we would like that! bettyellen Jul 2015 #15
Who cares what we like! graywarrior Jul 2015 #17
Nice trippy buttons and whiskers on kittens! Staring at fingers enrobed in silk mittens! bettyellen Jul 2015 #19
Are you trying to insult out intelligence? graywarrior Jul 2015 #22
All politics is personal! I'd like to see Chopper and Aitch in the whitehouse dammit. bettyellen Jul 2015 #31
Swag's into roller derby. graywarrior Jul 2015 #36
Roller derby would be elevated! And vinyl would rule the White House. Nader is a pill. bettyellen Jul 2015 #42
I've already disappointed too many people who have no idea who I am. graywarrior Jul 2015 #44
I'd settle for bringing back the 'unrec'. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #20
Oh god, how I miss unrec! graywarrior Jul 2015 #25
Sanders - Teachout Impedimentus Jul 2015 #16
Zephyr Teachout met with Martin O'Malley. No word on an edorsement yet. FSogol Jul 2015 #72
Oh yeah. Jamastiene Jul 2015 #175
Flame bait. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #12
no shit still_one Jul 2015 #64
No Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #13
Not enough cowbell BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #18
Now there is a DUzy Aerows Jul 2015 #24
LOL! Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #29
But Sanders is from Vermont! It doesn't get more cow than that. :-( bettyellen Jul 2015 #35
Hey, hey that's just not true! Scuba Jul 2015 #147
PLease, no. I could never vote for Nader. No Vested Interest Jul 2015 #21
What about Aerows Jul 2015 #23
As long as they run against a Clinton/Paul ticket. mmonk Jul 2015 #26
Or a Paul/Ringo ticket graywarrior Jul 2015 #27
Because a John/George ticket would be just plain stiff... Rhythm Jul 2015 #82
Like The Donald's Trump graywarrior Jul 2015 #85
Jean Georges? Pricey combos there, my friend. bettyellen Jul 2015 #86
I say to that....Bull Shit INdemo Jul 2015 #28
Is that your opinion? Avalux Jul 2015 #32
Hillary and Jeb same ticket :) CTBlueboy Jul 2015 #33
I just read that Nader & Sanders are not talking to one another graywarrior Jul 2015 #34
Sanders threw him shade at a party or something? bettyellen Jul 2015 #69
Or Hogans Heroes. graywarrior Jul 2015 #73
I know no-think, comrade. Nice stompers you got there, btw. bettyellen Jul 2015 #74
Your posts are useless. Maedhros Jul 2015 #108
Oh no...you mean ? graywarrior Jul 2015 #110
! helderheid Jul 2015 #150
Aww lets just go straight to Hill/ Hitler - because we know THAT shit is coming. bettyellen Jul 2015 #37
Great, Godwin the thread. Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #55
Lol. I'd love to think that upset people- but seems well received here! bettyellen Jul 2015 #57
You just hurt my feefees graywarrior Jul 2015 #77
Oh nooooo....I'm going to get you a pony! And then I'm going to bettyellen Jul 2015 #84
Is there such a thing as pony tape? graywarrior Jul 2015 #87
Loads coming out of Tijuana but mostly DVDs I think? bettyellen Jul 2015 #92
Nothing is rolls? graywarrior Jul 2015 #95
Naaaah, it's all digital now! bettyellen Jul 2015 #128
Digital tape? graywarrior Jul 2015 #130
Both excellent choices for her in light of the OP. GoneFishin Jul 2015 #177
Frankly, your post is insulting. Maedhros Jul 2015 #39
How about a Clinton/ Bush ticket? Bernie is running as a Democrat. eom Autumn Jul 2015 #40
I'd march jack-booted to that! Not really- just fulfilling the fantasy of an bettyellen Jul 2015 #46
Keep at it, you might get better with a lot of practice and effort. Autumn Jul 2015 #48
Word around here is that you're a rabble rouser. graywarrior Jul 2015 #49
Get a hearing aide- it's Scrabble mouser! this cat is a nerd, bettyellen Jul 2015 #56
Why does no one ever take me seriously ??? graywarrior Jul 2015 #59
Frank is the goose you held hostage and cooked, no? I am coming over to liberate your animals! bettyellen Jul 2015 #61
Are you referring to a certain.... graywarrior Jul 2015 #75
Speaking of which... whatever happened to that quacked-up duck? Rhythm Jul 2015 #78
You mean... graywarrior Jul 2015 #81
Better watch out if he gets loose again... Rhythm Jul 2015 #91
That don't scare me graywarrior Jul 2015 #96
They're bringing reinforcements!!! Rhythm Jul 2015 #159
Fuckin' motherduckers. graywarrior Jul 2015 #162
No. Sanders is a good man. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #45
No. Way. Not. Happening. DinahMoeHum Jul 2015 #52
Why isn't this post in the lounge? peacebird Jul 2015 #53
. helderheid Jul 2015 #163
Lounge isn't political... n/t Rhythm Jul 2015 #172
Your thread needs more pitbull Scootaloo Jul 2015 #54
What a sweet face Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #58
And Kudzu. bettyellen Jul 2015 #70
compatable ideas, but too many blame Nader for Bush in 2000 HFRN Jul 2015 #62
How about zappaman Jul 2015 #65
That GIF is useless without a coconut shell! bettyellen Jul 2015 #67
... zappaman Jul 2015 #83
Tks! Needed to refuel before I reload! bettyellen Jul 2015 #89
. graywarrior Jul 2015 #94
He cleaans up after the carnage. Like the Wolf. bettyellen Jul 2015 #100
Is that a wild or domestic cat? abakan Jul 2015 #103
Wild. It's called a Pallas. Stunning animals! bettyellen Jul 2015 #111
ick! jzola Jul 2015 #68
I see NO similarities between Sanders and Nader. Why would you post ladjf Jul 2015 #71
Even less likely to be elected. Hoyt Jul 2015 #79
Some Similarities...Some Differences floyd1 Jul 2015 #88
no daleanime Jul 2015 #90
ummm.... Kalidurga Jul 2015 #93
Lovely.. both not members of the Democratic party. DCBob Jul 2015 #97
Sanders/Brown (Sherrod Brown). nt valerief Jul 2015 #98
No! abakan Jul 2015 #99
Gee did you guys have a huddle and decide to make crazy threads? nt artislife Jul 2015 #101
Shit. You're on to us. helderheid Jul 2015 #152
How about Hillary and Huckabee? onecaliberal Jul 2015 #102
Now that is just funny the can be H squared nt artislife Jul 2015 #109
That was my thought. They hail from the same state as well. onecaliberal Jul 2015 #114
H2OMG! (nt) CoffeeCat Jul 2015 #141
Heee! nt artislife Jul 2015 #143
How about... graywarrior Jul 2015 #118
Oh my. I almost spewed my water when I saw that. onecaliberal Jul 2015 #124
No and NO. Agschmid Jul 2015 #104
WWLBD Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #106
Go to Olive Garden- NYC branch, of course. bettyellen Jul 2015 #112
They've got the cornflake chicken and breadstick Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #113
Who's gonna breast feed who? graywarrior Jul 2015 #119
The Pittbulls!!! Rhythm Jul 2015 #155
*snort* graywarrior Jul 2015 #161
How about Carter, Clinton (the male) snooper2 Jul 2015 #115
I think we need a conference call Rosie1223 Jul 2015 #117
In fifteen minutes? Dr. Strange Jul 2015 #167
Hey graywarrior.. you rebel rouser! Cha Jul 2015 #120
. graywarrior Jul 2015 #121
LOL.. your duck broke free! Excellent! Cha Jul 2015 #122
There will be a duck quiz at DU later graywarrior Jul 2015 #123
Where are his/her wings? And he's/she's been plucked! Stardust Jul 2015 #144
Locking swag Jul 2015 #125
I just had an ohgasm. graywarrior Jul 2015 #126
No. Don't be ridiculous. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #127
How about Clinton/Palin? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #129
Bill Clinton and Bristol Palin? CoffeeCat Jul 2015 #142
Nope. LWolf Jul 2015 #133
This message was self-deleted by its author whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #135
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #136
F@ck Ealph Nader Buzz cook Jul 2015 #137
is this about the election he didn't cost Gore? MisterP Jul 2015 #166
You know Ralph will be 82 next year, right? bluedigger Jul 2015 #138
Oscar would be a better running mate, I think. GoddessOfGuinness Jul 2015 #139
lol graywarrior Jul 2015 #148
Wrong. merrily Jul 2015 #145
Nader's funders were quite different. Very different. madfloridian Jul 2015 #146
Figures I'd see this on Bastille Day... helderheid Jul 2015 #149
Olive Garden. Hissyspit Jul 2015 #151
That would guarantee that I wouldn't vote for Sanders liberal N proud Jul 2015 #153
There is a feud between the two going back years. Sanders wont take his calls, respond to letters stevenleser Jul 2015 #154
Here you go...one of our Tampa locals would be right down Bernie's alley. Sancho Jul 2015 #157
I'll back the ticket if they include a barbeque featuring chicken. tenderfoot Jul 2015 #158
There is an old saying jeepers Jul 2015 #160
Seriously? RBInMaine Jul 2015 #165
mainly because half the people I was with believed it... Dr. Strange Jul 2015 #168
This message was self-deleted by its author Rhythm Jul 2015 #170
ALL THREE!!! Rhythm Jul 2015 #171
Surely 2016 will be his year! Dr. Strange Jul 2015 #173
Well, you could have Aerows Jul 2015 #169
Or a Clinton/Bush ticket! HappyMe Jul 2015 #174
Anybody out there admit to voting for Nader? redstateblues Jul 2015 #176
i think newhart says it best restorefreedom Jul 2015 #179
Well done. Jamastiene Jul 2015 #180
Its a Duzy ! olddots Jul 2015 #181

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
30. Don't be ridiculous.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:18 PM
Jul 2015

Trump would never eat cornflake crusted chicken dinners at those campaign stops. That's why he's a GOPer.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
50. Poultry of any kind is a dicey topic here.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:37 PM
Jul 2015

Chicken, duck, ... as God is my witness I thought turkeys could fly.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
66. I'd shoot him in his 1% if you get my meaning..
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 07:00 PM
Jul 2015

Some jackbooted ultra-violence to avenge my furry friends. (The anarchist referred to earlier)

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
156. I Sniffa well my friend! I Sniffa just fine.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:24 AM
Jul 2015

And look forward to being accused of being a dirty sock Masshole.

still_one

(92,444 posts)
63. Not surprisingly one can usually count on any thread on DU to take a shot at Hillary, even
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:56 PM
Jul 2015

threads that aren't about her.


 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
116. you ever melt a pot with a kettle?
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 08:24 PM
Jul 2015

depends on the iron content, but it is possible. You really want to get the slag off so the end molten steel isn't to brittle-

Got Kiln?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
9. Trolling us, right?
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:59 PM
Jul 2015

Nader did important things many decades ago, but showed himself as a total ass in the wake of the 2000 election, when he openly took pleasure in being called the 'spoiler', even though he wasn't actually the reason Florida was stealable.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
10. Nope
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:00 PM
Jul 2015

Sanders is running in the Democratic Primary 2016.

Nader ran three times for POTUS, twice (1996 & 2000) as a Green
Party candidate, and once as an independent 'spoiler' in the 2004 General.

BIG difference. Bernie is no spoiler. He's smarter than that.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
134. to be a spoiler you have to make the other guy lose
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:00 PM
Jul 2015

he didn't in '00 and Cobb fought harder for '04 than Kerry did

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
19. Nice trippy buttons and whiskers on kittens! Staring at fingers enrobed in silk mittens!
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:11 PM
Jul 2015

How ya like THOSE for some slogans?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
31. All politics is personal! I'd like to see Chopper and Aitch in the whitehouse dammit.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:19 PM
Jul 2015

Swag will update the spreadsheet, and the sitting in the back of the bus will regain the prestige it had during High School. It would be a game changer- at least for me it would.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
42. Roller derby would be elevated! And vinyl would rule the White House. Nader is a pill.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:31 PM
Jul 2015

You really need to rethink this.

Impedimentus

(898 posts)
16. Sanders - Teachout
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:05 PM
Jul 2015

Bernie and Zephyr would make a GREAT ticket, IMO. She's originally from Vermont and he's originally from NY. I guess that might pose some geographical problems, but it would be an exciting ticket.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
28. I say to that....Bull Shit
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:17 PM
Jul 2015

If that is really what you think, then you need to do some serious research on Ralph Nader..
When you do I imagine you will delete your OP

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
34. I just read that Nader & Sanders are not talking to one another
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:22 PM
Jul 2015

I guess that dream just went out the window or down the toilet.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
69. Sanders threw him shade at a party or something?
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 07:10 PM
Jul 2015

I give him guts points for that.
I would have upended a table, screaming Prostitution Whore! But that's more of a move for catholic school girls.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
37. Aww lets just go straight to Hill/ Hitler - because we know THAT shit is coming.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:24 PM
Jul 2015

And it's sexist, dammit!

Signed - Thirdy Third and a Turd Way Betty

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
57. Lol. I'd love to think that upset people- but seems well received here!
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:43 PM
Jul 2015

I shock myself, others shock me not so much!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
84. Oh nooooo....I'm going to get you a pony! And then I'm going to
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 07:28 PM
Jul 2015

Shoot it with my AK-47, and drop bombs on it from my F-35. Thanks, Bernie!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
46. I'd march jack-booted to that! Not really- just fulfilling the fantasy of an
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:34 PM
Jul 2015

Anarchist friend. They're actually pretty demanding for people with no rules.
Signed-Third way Betty

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
61. Frank is the goose you held hostage and cooked, no? I am coming over to liberate your animals!
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:51 PM
Jul 2015

Give me a minute to put on my new jack boots.
I bought them in GD!

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
62. compatable ideas, but too many blame Nader for Bush in 2000
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:54 PM
Jul 2015

rightly or wrongly

but that means tactically, Nader would be a minus on the ticket

floyd1

(20 posts)
88. Some Similarities...Some Differences
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 07:31 PM
Jul 2015

Ralph Nader says that Bernie entering the race is "good news", but he is not completely satisfied with Bernie's platform- particularly with Bernie's general lack of clarity on attacking the military-industrial complex and Bernie's stance on the Israel/Palestine conflict. Bernie has not come out explicitly against aid to Israel and does not totally condemn the attacks against Gaza by the right-wing Likuds. Bernie justifies the attacks (in the video below) based off of Israeli propaganda (Namely the fact that Hamas does not want Israel to exist). However, Bernie has stated in a recent town-hall meeting that the attacks on hospitals and sanctuaries by Israel in the latest attack on Gazans was "horrendous".
Ralph's other critique of Bernie would be his legitimating the Democratic/Republican Party by running within it. The two party system has been a big part of Ralph's critique. Recently on Ralph's weekly radio show "Ralph Nader Hour", reporter and activist Chris Hedges said that when he asked Bernie why "would he ever want to run as a Democrat?" (Bernie being a long-time Independent), Bernie said because he "didn't want to end up like Nader", a political pariah. Nader has rarely appeared on major television since 2000 and has been unable to garner connections with leading Democrats. Let's remember that Ralph Nader has said multiple times that Bernie Sanders has never replied to any of Ralph's mail or telephone calls. Sanders is still playing the 'game': Let's hope there is a miracle and he wins it- anything is better than flip-flopper "Generalissima Hillary R. Clinton" as Ralph Nader always says!

Here are some sources to back up the above comments:

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-http://ralphnaderradiohour.com/2015/07/11/chris-hedges-dr-nicholas-ashford/

P.S.:

More likely, and more politically savvy: Sanders/Warren ticket.

Cheers!


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helderheid

(38,039 posts)
149. Figures I'd see this on Bastille Day...
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 10:22 AM
Jul 2015

"...the activity of drinking underage and firing bottle rockets out of one's own anus constitutes an 'ultra hazardous' activity."

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
154. There is a feud between the two going back years. Sanders wont take his calls, respond to letters
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:01 AM
Jul 2015

My take is that like many of us, Sanders views Nader and his 2000 run for the white house as a destructive and vainglorious act that gave us Bush. Sanders own decision to run as a Democrat shows his quiet disdain for Nader's choice to run as an independent/3rd party.
__________________________________________________
Ralph Nader jabs Bernie Sanders in letter

In an unusual Wednesday letter, former long-shot presidential candidate Nader urged potential future long-shot presidential candidate Sanders to change the way he does business in the Senate and fulfill his “unfulfilled potential.”

“You are a Lone Ranger, unable even to form a core progressive force within the Senate,” Nader wrote the Vermont independent. “Without internal and external networking, there are no strategies to deploy, beyond speechifying, putting forward amendments that go nowhere and an occasional hearing where you incisively question witnesses.”

A Nader aide confirmed the veracity of the letter, which was sent to the senator as he informed The Nation that he is “prepared to run for president of the United States” in the form of a “very unconventional campaign.” An independent to the left of most Senate Democrats that he caucuses with, Sanders said he’s wary of running for president as an independent because it could help Republicans. In fact, he called it “the Nader dilemma.”

It sounds like Nader, a former Green Party and independent candidate for president, would like to discuss that very issue with Sanders but has been unable to reach him despite years of trying. So Nader wrote Sanders to get his attention and warn him that in Nader’s view, Sanders can have greater impact in the Senate — and perhaps beyond.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/ralph-nader-bernie-sanders-letter-104376.html

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
157. Here you go...one of our Tampa locals would be right down Bernie's alley.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jul 2015

First Dean Capone; followed by Bernie Sanders....

http://www.deancapone.com

Greg Pason is National Secretary of the Socialist Party USA. Greg is also a former Socialist Party candidate for Governor and U.S. Senate; former Co-Chair of the NJ Branch of the National Writers Union, former member of the Brandworkers International Board of Directors, former chair of the Coalition for Free and Open Election and ABC-No-Rio Collective member/volunteer.

http://vote-socialist.org/presidentialsearch2015.html
http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2015/02/greg-pason-socialists-and-the-living-wage-issue/

Excerpts from Greg Parson...you be the judge. Some sounds like familiar language to me:

The current left and progressive labor movement’s call for a $15 minimum wage poses the need for immediate improvements in compensation of the lowest-paid workers. But it falls short in some ways, and I believe democratic socialists can both strengthen the campaign and use the current focus on a $15 and hour minimum wage to put forward a democratic socialist vision.
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When we organize around wage and labor issues, we need to connect that work to a vision of the type of economy we are fighting for. The focus is not just to get a higher wage but also to challenge an economic model (i.e., capitalism) that takes power from the workers who provide the labor power and the communities affected by the decisions of business. We are clear in our principles that democratic socialism is not mass industrial plants run under a command economy. While that might be a type of “socialism” advocated by others, it is not a vision we share. We also need to be clear that democratic socialism is not welfare state capitalism, which allows capitalism to function but under stringent restrictive and directives.
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LeBron James Seems to Get it

A recent article in Salon magazine titled “A specter is haunting the NBA — the specter of socialism,” describes a demand by new NBA Union Executive Director Michele Roberts: that NBA revenue be roughly split between players and owners. Salon comments, “If the NBA currently operates according to a sort of Keynesian, redistributive model, Roberts has provoked an imagination of a socialistic league, a revolutionary model that is, strictly speaking, non-capitalist.” (It is socialistic in the broad sense of the term, not in the way the word “socialism” is used to describe welfare-state models. These are mostly capitalist economies with socialistic salves to grease the gears, smooth out cyclical troughs and ward off unrest.)

“Why don’t we have the owners play half the games?” challenged Roberts when asked about the revenue-split issue. A Marxist truism now becomes a joke when considered in the case of the NBA: it’s the workers who create the value, not the owners. No one wants to hear “And starting at power forward … Donaaaald Sterrrrrliiiing!”

Roberts drives the point home: “There would be no money if not for the players … There. Would. Be. No. Money.” Owners are expendable, she suggests: “Thirty more owners can come in, and nothing will change. These guys [the players] go? The game will change. So let’s stop pretending.”

It’s sad when Salon Magazine does a better job describing socialism than some labor organizations do. Even the NBAPA gets it: Owners are expendable.

Bernie Sanders:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/07/13/what-bernie-sanders-is-willing-to-sacrifice-for-a-more-equal-society/

The thing Bernie Sanders says about inequality that no other candidate will touch

There are very few unspoken rules among major-party candidates for president, and Bernie Sanders is breaking one of them. He’s saying that America’s leaders shouldn’t worry so much about economic growth if that growth serves to enrich only the wealthiest Americans.

“Our economic goals have to be redistributing a significant amount of [wealth] back from the top 1 percent,” Sanders said in a recent interview, even if that redistribution slows the economy overall.

“Unchecked growth – especially when 99 percent of all new income goes to the top 1 percent – is absurd,” he said. “Where we’ve got to move is not growth for the sake of growth, but we’ve got to move to a society that provides a high quality of life for all of our people. In other words, if people have health care as a right, as do the people of every other major country, then there’s less worry about growth. If people have educational opportunity and their kids can go to college and they have child care, then there’s less worry about growth for the sake of growth.”

Sanders’s position inverts decades of orthodoxy among liberal and conservative candidates alike, by prizing redistribution above all else. It taps into the mounting frustration in America, particularly among more liberal voters, with the widening gap between the rich and everyone else.

jeepers

(314 posts)
160. There is an old saying
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:09 PM
Jul 2015

I think it was Mark Twain who said to paraphrase, when I was young I could not believe how stupid my father was but as I got older he grew smarter.

then
Ralph Nader was Americas foremost consumer advocate, the leading anti corporate crusader, out spoken and distrustful of the two party system and you give him the big fuck you. Now in the same voice you heap praise on Bernie the anti corporate, consumer advocate and third party politico. Yeah, nobody fooled you

Dr. Strange

(25,926 posts)
168. mainly because half the people I was with believed it...
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 01:14 AM
Jul 2015

until Lee Mercer, Jr explained the situation to them (NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL).

Response to Dr. Strange (Reply #168)

Dr. Strange

(25,926 posts)
173. Surely 2016 will be his year!
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 04:03 PM
Jul 2015

Jeb Bush is all in my house with disease--and the only cure is more cowbell!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
169. Well, you could have
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 01:20 AM
Jul 2015

a (expressing a sexual function) (designation for yourself) (I'm kidding)

He's scaring a lot of Hillary supporters, and well he should. Obama has been our President because she lost.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
174. Or a Clinton/Bush ticket!
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 04:08 PM
Jul 2015

No, Sanders wouldn't pick Nader for dog catcher.
No, Sanders isn't 2016s Nader.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
176. Anybody out there admit to voting for Nader?
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 12:13 AM
Jul 2015

Amazing that very few of the fervent Nader voters actually own up to it

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