2016 Postmortem
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Is Hillary a Shill for Monsanto?
How is Hillary personally involved in supporting big agriculture? The Clinton Global Initiative (CGI), which gathers leaders to solve the world's problems, promotes Monsanto, the maker of RoundUp® and RoundUp Ready® seeds. Hugh Grant, Monsanto's Chairman and CEO spoke at the Clinton Global Initiative conference in September, 2014. Ms. Clinton's top campaign advisor, Jerry Crawford, was a lobbyist for Monsanto for years and is now the political pro for her Super PAC, "Ready for Hillary." Clinton spoke in favor of the government's Feed the Future (FtF) program, a USAID funded, corporate-partnered program that brings RoundUp Ready® technology to the most vulnerable populations of the world. Monsanto and Dow Chemical support Hillary and Bill's 'Clinton Foundation' with generous donations.
Last year, at a San Diego biotech conference, Hillary coached her audience in messaging. "Genetically modified sounds Frankensteinish. Drought-resistant sounds like something you'd want. Be more careful so you don't raise that red flag immediately."
It's also highly unlikely for Hillary Clinton to stand up against her benefactors, saying she favors a review of RoundUp, 2,4-D, and the even more toxic poisons used by farmers worldwide when she has friends in the industry telling her that they will "feed the world" someday with their agricultural methods.
https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/hillary-vs-bernie-frankenfood
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Monsanto controls her puppet strings.
okasha
(11,573 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Not. Is Tom Villsack lurking around her campaign? Monsanto Tommy.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)The Man from Monsanto is STILL the Secretary of Agriculture, appointed by Obama in 2009.
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Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)This Guy still advocates anything Corporate Ag wants or does. Same crap as when he was Governor. So not supporting anything third way and you can pretty much tell we are Progressives all the way. Trying to make a difference with in the ranks. Might be my last campaign and plan on going out in style. Shades of my Avatar.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Miles of Monocrops, Genetically Modified Frankenfood, and meat (for Harkin that would be pigs) full of antibiotics, steroids, and hormones.
Yum!
BTW: Monsanto also runs the FDA (Food & Drug Administration).
See: Michael Taylor...another Obama appointment.
Talk about the foxes guarding the hen house.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)the picture became very clear. Very apparent we have our selves a very Conservative President,and,to think the other choice was totally out of the picture. One of Mr. Obama's lines went something along this,if you want a very liberal agenda,you will have to push me in that direction. When your advisers are loan sharks and weasel types like Rahmn Emanuel you just suck it up and the rest is history. Much like Hillary allowing the chief Lobbyist from Comcast to join her campaign.
Hopefully Bernie Sanders and Liz Warren are able to change the landscape to a more progressive issue oriented campaign. It is very apparent the Populace is either going to chose a Ding Bat Hate filled person or a very Progressive one. This is my last Campaign and we are going out in Wellstone Style. No more half baked Candidates.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)necessary in order to see the complete picture. I have no idea whether or not these appointments were his idea or whether the presidency itself has been hi-jacked.
I get the impression from Bernie Sanders that he is fully aware, as he has repeatedly stated, that no one person can fight these forces that have taken over our government.
That it will be necessary for the people to form an enormous army of millions of people to support a president who wants to end these anti-Constitutional, anti-American people infiltrations into our government.
Monsanto is under Global Attack and it appears we may be their only 'friends' so it is imperitive to stop this criminal organization from controlling the world's food supply and there is no candidate running in this election other than Bernie, who has any interest in doing so.
Man of Distinction
(109 posts)Thanks! My former asshole Senator happens to have his mug in there... Salazar... and he's an ass
bvar22
(39,909 posts)This is far from the "team of rivals" he promised during his campaign.
These people all have the same agenda,
and are Mouth Pieces for the 1% and Corporate Governance.
The day Obama did that, I realized that Hope & Change, and Yes. We. Can!
were nothing but empty campaign slogans delivered by a blank slate.
We already knew Hillary, so most of us took a chance on the unknown.
^M^O^N^S^A^N^T^O
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)brooklynite
(94,609 posts)Hes not making his popular childrens science show anymore, but Bill Nye the Science Guy is still making a public impact by going after pseudoscience and science denial. Hes railed against the idea of teaching creationism in public schools, and hes come to the defense of climate science and vaccines.
But on another hot-button issue involving science genetically modified organisms (GMOs) Nye has actually angered many scientists. Over the years, including in a chapter in his 2014 book Undeniable, Nye has suggested that theres something fundamentally problematic with foods containing GMO crops. He has argued that GMOs may carry environmental risks that we can never rule out with certainty.
Now, Nye seems to have changed his mind. Backstage after an appearance on Bill Mahers Real Time, Nye said an upcoming revision to his book would contain a rewritten chapter on GMOs. I went to Monsanto, Nye said, and I spent a lot of time with the scientists there, and I have revised my outlook, and Im very excited about telling the world. When youre in love, you want to tell the world.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/03/03/proof-hes-the-science-guy-bill-nye-is-changing-his-mind-about-gmos/
Perhaps science isn't as simplistic as a good old-fashioned "Big Chemical" conspiracy theory.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)He "spent a lot of time" with Monsanto scientists?
--imm
bvar22
(39,909 posts)..as he left Monsanto.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)So what did Nye learn at Monsanto headquarters that changed his mind? In a recent interview with the Huffington Post, Nye said that he does not believe genetically engineered crops are inherently bad. To the contrary, he said he now believes that they have been beneficial to agriculture.
To illustrate his point, he explained that GMO crops put the herbicides and pesticide inside the plant, rather than spraying it on them and having it run down into streams.
In the case of herbicides, Nye is simply incorrect, and its an important error to point out.
http://civileats.com/2015/06/03/what-bill-nye-got-wrong-in-his-about-face-on-gmos/
More Herbicides, Not Less
GMO herbicide-resistant crops are made to withstand the spraying of herbicides, primarily glyphosate (or Roundup), in quantities that would otherwise kill them. GMO Bt crops, on the other hand, are engineered to produce an insecticidal toxin within the plant. Rather than decreasing toxic pesticides in streams, the former products contribute to their presence. Glyphosate is now widely detected in our countrys water, according to government scientists. And recently, a major, independent body of scientists determined that glyphosate is probably carcinogenic, raising the stakes.
I wanted to love GMO's, but Monsanto earned a reputation as a fickle lover, at best.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)That would imply that Monsanto contributed large sums of money to her, her campaign, or her personal interests.
Did that happen?
Huh? Huh?
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)He supported the most reprehensible pro-gun NRA-backed (and possibly written) legislation in recent memory.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2015/05/bernie_sanders_on_guns_vermont_independent_voted_against_gun_control_for.html
okasha
(11,573 posts)Unreliable and probably useless T-35's go for $257 million a pop. LM also makes missiles and drones Sanders votes to fund every time a military spending bill comes up. Hmmm...
artislife
(9,497 posts)But use deflection. You can always start your own thread on your concerns. We are talking about the food supply here.
okasha
(11,573 posts)84 posts since you joined up on Tuesday! That's impressive.
Perhaps you should leave policing the group to the Hosts, at least until you have a better feel for how this place works.
So glad to know you're concerned about GMO''s. So am I, which is why I plant only heirloom varieties in my garden.
Are you also concerned about the wasted trillions of dollars going down the drain for a faulty aircraft that represents a huge barrel of pork for Vermont? Can you think of better ways to use that money? I sure can.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Gosh, it so good to see the Hillarians haven't changed since 2008. I think its great that you guys vet all new posters...wish you were as vigilant with your candidate! Not everything has merit because of the time spent at one thing...
okasha
(11,573 posts)Inquiring minds want to know.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Just read. I was into minority sites and feminist sites. I found this site late in the game and it was in shambles...lots of hurt feelings. I would watch the videos but was too spent to jump in...The Tennesse Guerilla women was my baptism of fire by the PUMAs. They were not really interested in a Latina viewpoint that was pretty excited that H was running against an AA. Since I felt both were huge steps in our country finally being inclusive. But they had the same fear and the same tactics about anyone who was not ready for H that I see being recreated now. I see the wheels starting to rattle, just like when Obama started having a little bit of traction.
I can still hear the screaming "It's her turn!"
So I was warned first by another poster here not to be intimidated by what would be directed at me. So thank you, not that you are the first,but I get it. You gotta go to bat for your girl. But I am hopeful and I feel like Bernie is going to win the nomination.
So your reaction and others feeling the same way as you do, it is like a muscle memory for you all. It's like your joints hurt before you know the rain is coming.
okasha
(11,573 posts)I do see a lot of projection from Bernie fans who are perhaps beginning to realize that the Democratic Party does not have a death wish and isn't going to slit its wrists for a niche candidate again.
artislife
(9,497 posts)People want to engage in conversation. Some nice, some thought provoking and some....meh.
But it's like crack, I am sure I will calm down after a week or so. I am already recognizing names and memes. So thanks. I am not sure what you wanted to really accomplish, because I don't feel like this was really a conversation, but thanks for ...spending time on me. I feel ...like I will still be voting for Bernie. And you for H.
And there we are.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Has Bernie ever taken money from them? Has he ever spoken at a conference promoting their interests? Did he use his position on committee to push for them? You got one vote, and you will keep hammering it, but it really doesn't accomplish what you hope it will.
This article is about using her position within the government and as part of the CGI to push for big ag. If you have something to say about it, then do so.
Man of Distinction
(109 posts)NRA rated Bernie Sanders D- and F respectively.
You Hillarians are making yourselves look silly beating a dead meme.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Hillarians
I think I am going to try to make "Fetch" happen.
*reference Mean Girls
okasha
(11,573 posts)Suggest you look up the difference before propounding on the subject again.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Think she won't use the Oval Office?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leslie-hatfield/new-analysis-of-wikileaks_b_3306842.html
New Analysis of Wikileaks Shows State Department's Promotion of Monsanto's GMOs Abroad
Flash forward to May 2013. Our friends at Food & Water Watch have revived it with a new report, Biotech Ambassadors: How the U.S. State Department Promotes the Seed Industry's Global Agenda. The venerable watchdog organization analyzed a total of 926 diplomatic cables, sent between 2005 and 2009, containing the words "biotech" or "GMO." (GMO refers to genetically modified organisms, including crops grown from genetically engineered -- or GE -- seeds. Biotechnology encompasses, but does not always refer to, GE technology, but no other biotech methods are mentioned in the report.) The study "reveals a concerted strategy to promote agricultural biotechnology overseas, compel countries to import biotech crops and foods they do not want, and lobby foreign governments -- especially in the developing world -- to adopt policies to pave the way to cultivate biotech crops."
A number of issues stand out in the report:
1 ) The cozy nature of the relationship between State Department officials and biotech companies. According to the report, "one strategy memo even included an 'advocacy toolkit' for diplomatic posts," and in Indonesia, in 2005, diplomats continued to lobby on behalf of Monsanto, the country's largest biotech firm -- with a total of 49 cables -- after the company paid a $1.5 million fine for bribing an Indonesian official "to relax or repeal an environmental rule governing the planting of GE crops." The same year, ambassadors to South Africa passed along information about job openings in the government's biotech regulatory agency to Pioneer and Monsanto, suggesting the companies "could advance 'qualified applicants' to fill the positions."
2 ) The questionable honesty of the State Department's messaging. For example, "the State Department encouraged embassies to 'publicize that agricultural biotechnology can help address the food crisis," when evidence that it could was simply not there. In fact, a 2009 report from the Union of Concerned Scientists debunked the industry line that GE crops outperform conventional ones, and as herbicide-resistant weeds have become more common, GE crops yields have fallen. Besides, when it comes to hunger we know the problem has more to do with money than food, since we currently produce much more food than it would take to feed the entire world's population. Much of the world just can't afford it.
3 ) During those five years, the number of cables dealing with the promotion of biotechnology grew at a faster rate than overall cables. Politically, it makes sense that a nation with a major interest in GMOs specifically would ramp up efforts as the technology remained unpopular around the globe -- but as it remains controversial both stateside and abroad, it's hard not to wonder how much more these efforts have ramped up even further between 2009 and today.
Her supporters are trying to distract on this thread as usual. But the facts speak for themselves. And they keep piling up.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)food and water availability and climate change are going to be big issues in the time to come. which of the candidates are going to be in bed with Monsanto? Or with Nestlé who basically wants to own all of the world water and make us buy it and doesn't believe water is a basic human right? Which candidate supports honest labeling of food products so that we can choose whether or not we want to buy genetically modified product?
I think all the candidates need to come out very honestly and cleanly about this issue and where they stand. If she supports be gag then she should say so if she doesn't then she should say so.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)If she's elected, by 2020 there will be nothing left of the public sector.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)is a "shill" is disgusting.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)and then say them over and over until people who decide to forgo critical thought believe it and repeat it.
That sounds just like Karl Rove.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)...Front Man or Roper for Monsanto while she was at the State Department?
Would that be OK with you?
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)Bushes romneys Clintons Obama's and GMO scientists at Monsanto, all eat organic foods But American consumers who can't afford organic get the stuff they help peddle so it's OK
Chan790
(20,176 posts)All those "Global Initiatives" don't fund themselves, you know.