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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 09:54 AM Jul 2015

Voters’ summer flings with candidates typically don’t last

By James Pindell GLOBE STAFF JULY 10, 2015

As self-described socialist Bernie Sanders and reality television star Donald Trump surge into second place in the Democratic and Republican presidential contests, some may wonder what’s happening to American politics.

The answer: It’s nothing new.

For the past three decades, there has been a rhythm in presidential politics. Every four years, in the summer before Iowa and New Hampshire vote, some candidate comes out of nowhere, surges in the polls, gets buzz, and then eventually returns to nowhere.

This is what UCLA professor Lynn Vavreck dubs the “discovery, scrutiny, decline” pattern. Party activists discover a shiny new candidate as an alternative to the race’s front-runner, usually when the campaign is just beginning. The insurgent faces press scrutiny and then, typically, declines.

“It is not unlike products that debut and get people to try them out,” said Vavreck. “But what news coverage giveth, news coverage taketh away.”

Four years ago, everyone was talking about former Minnesota US representative Michele Bachmann. From April to June 2011, Bachmann had picked up 8 percentage points in a University of New Hampshire poll. She was in second place behind former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. She would go on to perform so badly in the Iowa caucuses that she didn’t even make it to the New Hampshire primary.

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Voters’ summer flings with candidates typically don’t last (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2015 OP
Oooh, oooh! TWO memes in one day! Bernie = Trump, and we will all come to our senses in the fall djean111 Jul 2015 #1
Another trash thread. 99Forever Jul 2015 #2
+ 1000 TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #3
By golly, you are correct: corkhead Jul 2015 #4
This is the meme they want to try to sell to the public? NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #5
David Axelrod said the same thing on msnbc last week: Bernie's a "fling.” Its their latest meme. Stardust Jul 2015 #16
OMG, I'd forgotten all the Bill Bradley buzz, but now that I'm reminded, there was a lot of chat MADem Jul 2015 #6
I try to forget that woman. Switzerland should keep her there to promote world peace. freshwest Jul 2015 #10
Seem not to be the only summer fling that has happened. William769 Jul 2015 #7
If it survives through the fall, you can enjoy a cozy winter. Just beware of next summer. n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #11
People get tired in a long, fruitless relationship, too artislife Jul 2015 #8
And then some keep coming back to it. Agschmid Jul 2015 #21
I am sick of the 'horse race' media coverage. Few people get a chance to learn anything. It's inane. freshwest Jul 2015 #9
It remains the Summer of Sanders Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #12
Who said I'm not supporting him now?... DonViejo Jul 2015 #13
You seem to enjoy posting hit pieces on Sanders... Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #14
I enjoy them?.... DonViejo Jul 2015 #15
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #18
"Hit Pieces" Agschmid Jul 2015 #20
That is what they are hoping when they only have 6 debates and they end before the first primary. jwirr Jul 2015 #17
Bernie is not a flash in the pan. Agschmid Jul 2015 #19
I don't recall your being the type to be so ready to marginalize folks. madfloridian Jul 2015 #22
This type of attitude TSIAS Jul 2015 #23
So we can expect the real pants shitting to start in the Fall when Sanders hasn't gone away. frylock Jul 2015 #24
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. Oooh, oooh! TWO memes in one day! Bernie = Trump, and we will all come to our senses in the fall
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 10:06 AM
Jul 2015

and support Hillary! With a side of Bernie = Michelle Bachmann for a garnish!
Nope. And nope!

Is today Try a New Meme Day? Because it won't work on Bernie's supporters. Waste of time.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
5. This is the meme they want to try to sell to the public?
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 10:41 AM
Jul 2015

Bernie is just a summer fling? LOL...pathetic. They really have nothing on him.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. OMG, I'd forgotten all the Bill Bradley buzz, but now that I'm reminded, there was a lot of chat
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 11:34 AM
Jul 2015

about him! And there was plenty of Michelle Bachmann talk even here on DU (with no small amount of horror, of course!)....remember when she confused John Wayne with John Wayne Gacy, the serial killer?

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
8. People get tired in a long, fruitless relationship, too
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 11:38 AM
Jul 2015

And they start to think about the times they were disappointed, taken for granted and ignored.

Healthy people get out.

 

Man of Distinction

(109 posts)
12. It remains the Summer of Sanders
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:21 PM
Jul 2015

and entering the August Debates, it only gets better.

Nice hit piece, DonViejo. Will you be supporting Bernie at the end of this if he succeeds in securing the nomination?

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
15. I enjoy them?....
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:35 PM
Jul 2015

Really? Please show me how I am enjoying them. And the posts I make that are positive towards the Senator, are they also "hit pieces?"

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
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Sun Jul 12, 2015, 01:42 AM
Jul 2015

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TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
23. This type of attitude
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 07:24 PM
Jul 2015

Is what turns a lot of people off to Clinton. They did it with supporters of Bradley. The did it especially with Howard Dean. Whenever a liberal candidate emerges the establishment portrays their supporters as out of touch elitists.

To compare Sanders to the likes of Bachmann and Trump is intellectually dishonest as I've seen.

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