Testing a new procedure for alerts and jury duty

[marym625]

Last edited Tue Jul 7, 2015, 02:18 PM - Edit history (1)

During the testing phase, we ask you to do the following:

Before you hit that "alert" button, drink a glass of wine, do a shot, take a toke or eat a special brownie.

If you receive a jury alert, before you vote and comment, drink a glass of wine, do a shot, take a toke or eat a special brownie.

We'll be testing this throughout the primaries. Please help out in this test.

Thank you,

Me and a friend here

On edit: perhaps some people need to use this procedure before hitting "send mail" too.

[leveymg]

1. What's changed?

And, is that procedure still mandatory for those selected for DU juries?

[marym625]

2. LOL!

I don't think most people are doing this right now.

Yes, if you are selected for a jury, this procedure should be followed

[hollysmom]

26. are you kidding?

being on a jury here is driving me to drink. Some of the alerts are just vengeance, Ridiculous. Others are alerted by people who can't read, I mean sometimes it is justified, but most times - not.

[marym625]

35. of course I'm kidding!

I am just trying to get people to laugh. To chill. I agree on the the juries I'm on.

[hollysmom]

100. thye are you kidding me was because I had just got off another pay back Jury, the person did

not like what was said to them after they themselves had just been rude to the person reported on, I was so - ugh, - disgusted in the immaturity. You helped me blow off steam.

[marym625]

101. It's all good

See how much better it will be to join in the testing phase?

[99Forever]

3. Can I...

...drink a glass of wine, take a toke, and eat a special brownie?

[marym625]

4. of course!

Even better!

[cui bono]

106. No.

You should always toke before you drink to avoid the spins.

+ =

[-none]

5. Some people need to do that before even logging on to DU.

[marym625]

7. There's that too.

Just as long as this procedure is followed throughout the primaries. If needed prior to logging on as well, it's all good!

[-none]

11. :thumbsup: 8-)

(To bad the smilies don't work in the Reply title.)

[marym625]

12. Yeah, I don't get that

[-none]

14. Not only that, but I

agree with your profile. There is way too much profit taking going on that should not be.

[marym625]

18. amen to that!

[RKP5637]

104. Yep! K&R!

[arcane1]

6. I'm always excited when called for jury, and almost always disappointed.

It's almost always a stupid alert.

[marym625]

8. Same here!

Hence the test

[Snotcicles]

9. As much as I get called I'll be drunk by noon.nt

[marym625]

10. LOL!

It's all good!

I thought you can only be called once every 12 hours or so?

[bigtree]

13. this is all 'sailing completely over my head'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=428974

It's easy to make fun and light of the problems with the jury system when it's not affecting you or your political group. A poster yesterday remarked to another poster that "everything sails completely over your head" and had his post locked by the jury.

The jury system here at DU is seriously flawed, to have a remark as innocuous as that one threaten a member's participation here.

[marym625]

16. I really was just trying to put some levity into the place

I am not aiming this at anyone at all. It is not personal.

[bigtree]

24. this is something that I don't think is wise to mock, lest we find ourselves mocking those affected

...notwithstanding your obvious good intentions, Mary.

Still, I may just be a little sore.

[passiveporcupine]

25. She was not mocking those affected.

She was trying to use humor to make a good point. Think before you post. Walk out of the room and cool down before you respond to something that makes you angry. Stop and re-read what you are upset about and see if maybe you misread it, or are taking something personally that was not aimed at you. Maybe even sleep on it.

There are so many reasons fights get started here, and most of them could be completely avoided if people weren't so uptight and ready to fight to begin with.

I do think we should leave alcohol out of these new rules though...lots of people get feisty on alcohol. Toking is a much better way to calm down and just laugh at yourself and the world around you. Maybe taking a walk or meditating might help. Or just go have some sex.

Maybe there should be penalties for someone who alerts too often for questionable posts. You know, in the real world, if you call the cops out for something false, you might even go to jail or have to pay a fine for it.

[bigtree]

34. again

...there is a real and pressing issue behind the concern over DU juries which isn't at all amusing to me - on any level.

I don't know why you assume people are acting out of unwarranted or pure emotion. I regard most of what is posted here as sincere; a lot of it calculated and deliberate.

I don't agree at all with minimizing what's occurring with the juries. Like I said, if it doesn't affect you, if you've been censored for something critical about a candidate, but a innocuous as the example I related above, I'd imagine you'd take a different view.

[marym625]

43. I'm not minimizing anything

It's possible to find humor in something you have no control over. We can't change the jury system. That's been made obvious. We can't control others. Also obvious. I am asking people to control themselves and to not take everything so seriously.

As far as people who are now on a vacation because of stupid hides, it sucks. And it's all across the board. Cali had at least a couple ridiculous hides. 1SBM had a couple ridiculous hides. Obviously, there are more.

People need to chill the fuck out. Before they alert and when they vote. Saying take a toke before you alert seemed much better than chill the fuck out

[Fuddnik]

49. Should there be a policy against dropping acid before logging on?

I got spanked a few times a few years ago for posting on vodka.

[marym625]

51. I make no judgment

You are an adult, you drop what you want

I want to know how anyone knew you had been drinking vodka. Was the brand mentioned? Would it have been OK if it was Patron and not vodka?

These are very important questions!

[passiveporcupine]

52. I think what you are not getting

is that this was a plea to stop alerting on stuff that doesn't deserve an alert. LIke the one you referred to. Instead of yelling at people, MaryM was just trying to reach them with humor. A much better way to calm things down than yelling and reprimands.

[HappyMe]

55. Taking this so very seriously is, to me, a mistake.

Nobody is going to change any minds (I don't believe) at this point.

It's pretty easy to not get a hide. Don't insult (or imply) that others are lacking in intelligence. Walk away, log out, or join real life. It's pretty much what I have done. I sometimes don't even log in. I'm busy with getting Sanders stuff together. People are still hungry, how about people give a thought to their local food pantry.

This place is great, but it is NOT life or death.

The jury system is what it is.

[marym625]

38. SEX! YES!

That's a great idea!

Thank you.

[marym625]

29. I'm mocking ridiculous alerts

And ridiculous hides. They're all over the place. I wish the alert button was gone. Then no one could complain about the jury process, censorship, "alert stalking" etc. You don't like something, ignore it or say so to the person.

Hence the get relaxed before you do anything post.

Yes, my intentions were to make people laugh and hopefully stop the alerts. I would say 95% of the juries I'm on, the alert shouldn't have happened. Including an alert on the host of a group, on their post in that group.

So that's all this is. We all need to chill.

[marym625]

19. There are quite a few hides I find completely ridiculous

That's the whole point of my post.

[oldandhappy]

15. giggle!

[marym625]

17. Thanks

I thought it was funny. Guess not for everyone. Seriously, I would have thought people who had ridiculous hides would have found it funnier than anyone. Guess I was wrong

[HappyMe]

20. I don't alert.

I rarely get called to be on juries. I am more than happy to follow your advice though.

[marym625]

21. nor do I

Good! So we're on the same page. Thanks!

[virtualobserver]

33. I have never alerted, I have never been alerted on, and I refuse to be on a jury.

There are people on juries who print out the results
and then criticize the response of individual jurors.

I've even seen people demanding that someone be banned
from DU based on their vote on a jury.

Once I saw that, I turned off the jury option.

[HappyMe]

41. Geeze louise, that's weird!

Some take this way, way too seriously.

I don't make any comment on my decision, if I am called. If I find the alert silly - then that is all I will say.

[Fla Dem]

57. How would you know who voted on a jury?

Jurors are anonymous. So how could anyone demand a juror be banned?

[virtualobserver]

60. I didn't say that anyone actually knew who voted

what I said was

"I've even seen people demanding that someone be banned
from DU based on their vote on a jury"

They demanded that in a thread in which they printed out the vote.

I saw this occur more than once.

[GeorgeGist]

22. Is pre-emptive toking allowed?

[marym625]

23. Why yes!

In fact, it's encouraged!

[Omaha Steve]

27. If I could find the alert button I'd push it on this OP

Ya right.

[marym625]

30. LOL!

See now that's what I'm talking about!

[abakan]

28. I would never alert, I would...

drink a glass of wine, do a shot, take a toke and eat a special brownie. That is more fun and after doing that none of this would be important enough for me to care about. Thanks for the advice.

[marym625]

31. You're welcome!

Thanks for joining the testing phase.

[HappyMe]

37. Yeah, if I had a toke and a cocktail

I might just log out and go have some fun!

In the end this is only a discussion board, not a life or death situation.

[Playinghardball]

32. Love the take a toke or eat a special brownie...

OK!

[marym625]

36. Awesome!

So glad you're on board!

[jtuck004]

39. That might even be better advice for people who attempt to admin forums. n/t

[marym625]

44. omg!

That's hilarious! I completely understand what you are saying. Made me laugh out loud.

[tularetom]

40. Good idea!

I've been here ten years and to the best of my recollection I've alerted on just one post and that one was a no brainer involving the n-word.

I take a pretty liberal approach to posting, and I have no intention to start alerting just because I don't agree with the content of a post, or even with the attitude displayed by the poster.

But I agree whole heartedly with the idea of ingesting a mind altering substance before alerting.

In fact, I may carry it one step further and do it before posting. I finished off a can of beer before I posted this.

[marym625]

45. and see how chill the post is?

Awesome! Thanks!

[tularetom]

67. Well, it seemed like a good idea when I posted it

But I've posted twice since then, and I'll be 74 in a couple months and I think my bladder is 110.

So I may have to rethink my original idea or it's gonna be drink-post-pee the rest of the day.

[marym625]

71. LOL!

It's a great idea. Was then, is now. If you have to pee between posts, it's all good!

[SheilaT]

42. I turned off the jury option quite a while ago

in part because I noticed that my vote almost never matched the other four. If I'm that much out of step, I thought, I don't belong on a DU jury.

But recent jury results have made me wonder if some significant portion of DU has opted out, leaving jury duty to a relatively small group who are now out of step with everyone else. Maybe I should return to jury eligibility and see what happens.

[marym625]

46. You should return

Just following the testing phase procedures and it should all be good!

Thanks!

[SheilaT]

69. I do like the testing phase procedures,

and sincerely hope they bring about a more tolerant and happy DU.

[marym625]

72. Me too!

Let's hope so!

[truebluegreen]

47. We can all use some inner piss...

I am passing this on because it worked for me
today. A doctor on TV said that in order to have
inner peace in our lives, we should always finish
things that we start. Since we all could use more
calm in our lives, I looked around my house to
find things I'd started and hadn't finished. I
finished a bottle of Merlot, a bottle of Chardonnay,
a bodle of Baileys, a butle of wum, tha mainder
of Valiuminun scriptins, an a box of choclutz. Yu
haz no idr how fablus I feel rite now. Sned this to
all ur frenz who need iner piss. An telum u luvum

[marym625]

48. LMAO!

Thanks for that!

[passiveporcupine]

54. This works for me!

[Divernan]

63. That's great - put it on my FB page.

[marble falls]

50. Already do this. I am will quite content with the jury systems as it stands. Without any sort of ...

prior contact with any other juryists I find I agree with 90% of the results. I don't see how anyone fixes jury results. Over alerting on someone like 1strongblackman has to be able to be proven by who is repeatedly alerting and how many alerts get laughed out. This is something I am sure admin could look into if it isn't already being done now.

[marym625]

53. I assume it can be seen who alerts often

And who is alerted on often.

I agree that saying anyone can stack a jury seems HIGHLY unlikely. And I usually agree with most other jurors as well.

There are plenty of hidden posts, all over the place, that shouldn't be IMHO. But we can't do anything about the jury system than not alert at the drop of a hat, and don't hide unless truly egregious.

[marble falls]

59. Some of he stuff is hidden by MIRT. Trust me, there's a lot of consideration before zotting...

someone. I was on MIRTfor two terms and found I agreed with 80% of hides and denial of service.

Of all the forums I've been on since Abuzz before Sept 11, this place seems the safest and most civil. I sorta wish the rules on who can post here were a little more open but this is Democratic Underground, not Progressive Underground.

I can live with that in return that we can be relatively troll free.

[marym625]

62. Yes, MIRT rocks!

No two ways about it. I bet they're all ready following this, they're so cool!

No sarcasm. I think MIRT is awesome!

[fadedrose]

56. Excellent suggestions -

It's easier just to have a drink, eat the brownie, and vote Leave It.

Lately I sympathize with the bad guys and want to chew out the good guy. There have been a few exceptions, very few.

[marym625]

61. Not sure who the good guys and the bad guys are

It's all conjecture anyway. Glad you like the suggestion. Hopefully, this will help us be a chill du.

[fadedrose]

70. One bad guy

was that NYC_SKP (I think I got the nick wrong).

I never thought he said what they said he said....so I favored him.

[marym625]

73. so not going there

I just hhad a lovely brownie.

[fadedrose]

75. Hey Hon, what's in that brownie?

_

[marym625]

76. Good stuff!

Really good stuff!

[Hoyt]

58. I like it. When sober, the key seems to be DON'T ALERT just because you disagree

with someone or they hurt your feelings.

Now if someone calls you a really bad name or threatens you, go ahead. Otherwise, respond to what you don't like.

[marym625]

64. or

Ignore them altogether and let the nastiness speak for itself.

[Flying Squirrel]

65. Someone didn't do that

Before alerting on a post that just said, "Why don't you get lost!"

whatever happened to growing a thicker skin?

[marym625]

66. thicker skin comes with pot

It does. Really!

[rhett o rick]

68. "Grow a thicker skin" yes that's good. Also, "Don't be such a baby."

or "Waaaaah". How about "Cry baby!"

[marym625]

74. see, special brownies

Contain skin thickening agents

[rhett o rick]

87. I think they have an agent that makes everything cool. HeyMan!

Is that a hippy emoticon?

[marym625]

89. What emoticon?

Oh dude! That emoticon yeah. Hippie

Peace

[rhett o rick]

92. What state do you live in? I live in Washington The State. Yeah! nm

[marym625]

95. Illinois

Shhhh! DUDE! Don't tell anyone! They're listening!

you too! thanks!

[rhett o rick]

96. Best of luck. Did you hear that in Oregon it's legal to possess marijuana and grow

a small amount for personal use. Still not legal to buy. So the pot shops in Vancouver, WA are making a bundle, just a short drive from Portland.

[marym625]

97. awesome!

It's practically legal here. Won't be long. Small amount gets you a ticket and medical is legal, they're just figuring out the logistics and diseases it can be prescribed for.

But, I'm moving to California. Funny, I am moving because I need a job. Just saw a post that the Illinois is in the top 5 places to work and California is in the bottom 5. Go figure!

I have never been to Portland but really want to go. Hope they make it fully legal before Washington gets all the profits!

(thank you for that one)

[Enthusiast]

85. That's easy for you to say. What if someone told you, "Get lost!"?

That would be real trouble right there. A terrible insult.

[HassleCat]

77. Better yet

If you think something is worthy of an alert, ask the OPer to explain, apologize, self-delete, etc.

[marym625]

78. There's that too.

See all the ways we can be chill? I have to admit, I'm digging the sex option the most

[olddots]

79. I just freebased my shoe laces

ask me anything .

[marym625]

81. LMAO!

What color is the sky?

[guillaumeb]

80. Must we only choose one of the 4 selections?

Just asking.

What an excellent idea. I have served on a few juries lately. Perhaps some here suffer from "premature eruption" of anger, so to speak.

May I add, before one posts anything with the title "HRC/Sanders/O'Malley/ better watch out" or "new polling shows that HRC/Sanders/O'Malley is in trouble" remember that the election is not until November of NEXT YEAR. A lot will happen between July 2015 and November 2016.

Again, great idea marym.

[marym625]

82. Thank you!

Great suggestions

No, we decided sex can also be used in the testing phase. With or without the use of any of the original four. Whatever floats your boat!


Thanks for participating in the testing phase

[bigwillq]

83. Bwah.

[marym625]

86. There ya go!

That's all I'm asking for

Thanks

[GP6971]

84. A Valium follwed by a shot works well too n/t

[marym625]

88. completely forgot about valium!

It's all those brownies!

Great idea! That's chill!

[GP6971]

90. I nickname it V2......Vodka and Valium....V squared. n/t

[marym625]

91. digging it!

V2. Good shit.

[PatrickforO]

93. I've served on a bunch of juries, but have never 'alerted' on anyone.

This is very good advice MaryM625. Very good advice indeed.

[marym625]

94. Why thank you!

Hope everyone participates. What a lovely du it will be!

[scarletwoman]

98. I wholeheartedly endorse this OP!

People need to stop being so uptight with their fellow DUers!

Whether you like a particular poster or not, we're all in this together - we are all being screwed over by the same forces, and it ain't our fellow DUers!

It's not that hard to just leave someone be if you don't agree with them. You don't have to challenge them, you can just click on a different thread. And for goshsakes don't friggin' alert on them! That's just cowardly backstabbing!

I totally agree with your premise - just chill out with the mind-altering substance of your choice. Instead of reaching for the damn 'alert' button, reach for a brewski or a doobie or a nice piece of dark chocolate. Raise your endophin level, be nice, be compassionate, be kind.

[marym625]

99. and sex!

We added sex!

Thanks for the support! I have learned to just ignore antagonizers, respond in a non confrontational way, and fuck alerting. I think I have alerted once, except for for actual trolls, mostly on my posts about Nazis or racists) since right after I started posting.

Toke that doobie!

[LWolf]

102. That's probably better

than my current compulsion.

I've reached the point in which I want to alert on every nasty thing someone says to/about another DUer. Direct and passive-aggressive.

Attack the candidates on issues? Fine. I've got no problem with that.

Attack the supporters of any candidate posting on DU? Complain about those supporters? No.

[marym625]

103. If we all follow these simple rules

It will be a much happier, safer, du..

The worst response under these rules, "DUDE! "

[demwing]

105. I was gonna throw out another alert

till I got high

I was gonna roll around in that dirt
till I got high

now jury duty's funny as hell, and I know why (why man?) yea heyy,
- cause I got high
- cause I got high
- cause I got high!

[marym625]

108. LMAO!

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See! It's working. Just need to follow the directions and take a toke before, uhm, before. Wow. Were you just talking to me? I thought. Wait. Yeah. Just take a toke before you alert and it's all good, man.

^^^^^ BEST SONG EVER^^^^^^^

[cui bono]

107. Alerted.

But only after I rec'd.

[marym625]

109. far out, man!

Thanks for the heads up! And the rec!

<-forgot about that guy

[bravenak]

110. This was great.

[marym625]

112. Glad you like it

Taking part in this test is completely voluntarily. Glad to see you're on board, my friend!

[raouldukelives]

111. Dude. I'm so tested.

[marym625]

113. awesome, DUDE!

Beautiful! Thanks for your participation!