If Bernie Sanders, a socialist, wins in 2016

[flamingdem]

What will Fidel Castro say?



Congratulations comrade?

[winter is coming]

1. I'm not sure that a Socialist would be much interested in congratulating a Democratic Socialist,

but if he is, so what?

[flamingdem]

3. Does Bernie state he is a democratic socialist?

I guess it's the media that just says he's a socialist.

The so what? is that Fidel is a socialist and Cuba is socialist and due to that fact, whatever your definition is of democracy, we've been blockading them for 50 odd years.

Kind of ironic to then elect a socialist here..

[winter is coming]

7. Yes, Bernie states that he is a Democratic Socialist.

He'll even tell you what his specific positions are, and his career matches his rhetoric. Check them out; you'll see they're nothing like what's been going on in Cuba. Or you could go on red-baiting, and discover that "socialism" isn't the scare term it was fifty years ago.

[flamingdem]

9. I'm not being terribly serious

but I see you are!

[appalachiablue]

10. If you're not serious, why did you post the OP comments with two questions to respond to?

To use up space, kill time, make a point or whatev? We're responding yet you say you're not serious. Maybe you're not responsible.

[RobertEarl]

13. Appears to be mere flamebait

What's great is that Obama has opened up Cuba. If anyone wonders what Fidel might say, they might wonder what Obama and Fidel have said. Far as I can tell it's all good.

[flamingdem]

26. I think that maybe after Judy Lynne

I post the most optimistic and positive news about Cuba.

Maybe my comment assumed to much of this forum.

[RobertEarl]

28. Lemme guess..

You are for Hillary?

Heck, you really want to get some replies just go all out and call Bernie a commie. Or is that assuming too much?

Thing is, Hillary is pretty much as much a socialist as Bernie is.

Heh... THEY'RE BOTH COMMIES!

[flamingdem]

32. I'm not a Hillary-ite

and as I wrote below I met Bernie Sanders in Nicaragua.

My point was more the irony of the US having it's foot on Cuba's back for over 50 years because of their professed socialism, then electing a socialist. I was inspired to have that thought because Bernie appears to be a real contender. I certainly would favor his election given the chance.

[winter is coming]

30. Uh huh.

[LWolf]

8. The media always leaves "democratic" out.

http://www.dsausa.org/what_is_democratic_socialism

In reality, if you read look at his policies, he's advocating for what is a more heavily regulated capitalism...and I've been saying that we need to re-regulate since Reagan.

[Ken Burch]

18. Democrats aren't supposed to red-bait. n/t.

[flamingdem]

21. That's what you're getting out of it

and it seems that you are so very, very serious oh my gosh! No joking or irony allowed with you I see.

In fact you wrote me a personal message here on DU:

really? really? redbaiting? in 2015?

Mail Message
You should just admit you're right-wing and be done with.

Chill pill time dear Ken Burch.

[Man of Distinction]

2. Nothing because he is not a socialist

he is a Democratic socialist. Most likely Castro will just send a congratulations and looking forward to working with him as head of state.

[HooptieWagon]

4. If Hillary wins, will the fascist Kochs congratulate her?

They did back the DLC, of which Hillary was a founding member. They'd probably congratulate one of their own...

[appalachiablue]

11. +10

[onecaliberal]

17. +100000

[daleanime]

27. +1

[appalachiablue]

39. How ironic that for her campaign opening event which went well, Hillary chose the fine FDR

Four Freedoms Plaza in New York, yet never explained what those 4 freedoms are or that FDR was a democratic socialist. Strange and confounding for a Democratic presidential candidate especially one that recently added progressive issues to the agenda.

[Agnosticsherbet]

5. Castro would tell the Democrat that he wants Guantanamo bay back.

[flamingdem]

6. He might even get it

if we get congress back.

[wyldwolf]

12. If he LOSES...

... and by that I mean wins the nomination then loses (in spectacular fashion) the general, the American 'progressive' movement is done.

[appalachiablue]

20. No the progressive movement has started, again & will continue whether Sanders wins or loses.

That's an integral part of movements by people, they live on and revive like the labor, civil rights, womens rights, environmental, social justice, ant-war and other movements in modern history.

[wyldwolf]

35. It will be the McGovern - Nader - Sanders trifecta

[appalachiablue]

38. My comment was about movements, specifically the progressive one we are seeing revived now.

With your Trifecta comment, and earlier one if Sanders LOSES you're concerned with the presidential candidates. Sanders has nothing to to with the tired, worn comparisons to McGovern who ran 43 years ago on the anti-war platform in 1972 in very different times when the country was economically strong, or with Nader who ran as an Independent. And Bernie Sanders will WIN.

The momentum for Sanders is increasing like his resounding populist, progressive message that's reaching millions in a post 2008 Crash world. Sanders only relates to those candidates for the concern he creates among centrists and conservatives now who believe he threatens the status quo. Even Hillary realizes how disillusioned Americans are with establishment politics in her new found progressive approaches. Good luck with that. And she will finally speak to the media tonight, which is timely.

[99Forever]

14. At least your name fits.

Too bad you know jack shit about who Bernie Sanders is or what his ACTUAL political philosophy is.

This is the sort of crap I'd expect from Freepers..

[Diclotican]

15. flamingdem

flamingdem

If Bernie Sanders was elected President of the United States - I will believe Fidel Castro would at least give thanks to whatever good he have - as I suspect it would be somewhat more easy for the US - Cuba relationship in the future - as I fear the far-right in the US would do everything they could do - to undo the work that the current Obama administration have made possible with the more normal contacts between Cuba and US - even diplomatic ties between US and Cuba..

I think - if Sanders was to be elected President - in many ways a new day had broken out in the US - and for the world - as I do hope mr Sanders would be less inclined to go to war than others have been - and maybe even been able to repair the damage 40 year of reagan-economic have given the US also...

And if anything - Fidel Castro is able walking to his grave - knowing even americans is able to do the sensible thing in the end - even if it took 50 years for them to do it - and elect the first democratic socialist into office.... It would be reason for celebrating in Havanna if that ever happend...

Diclotican

[flamingdem]

22. A very rational response

I think it would be well received in Havana but that Fidel wouldn't be able to resist an ironic comment or three.

It would in some ways vindicate his own project, at least the best of what he meant to accomplish.

[Diclotican]

36. flamingdem

flamingdem

Old Fidel Castro would not resist getting in a few ironic comments about it, that is true - but I think he would hold it low key compared to others, who would have blown it up to a big news story...

And it would in some way vindicate him for the rest of history - if Sanders was elected President of the United States in 2016 - and I think Castro would enjoy the election of Sanders greatly - and maybe even celebrate a little - smoking a cigar or two - he had to give it up a few years ago - to his great sorrow - as he really was glad in a cigar and some brandy...

I just hope enough americans is rationale about it all - after the "election" of mr Bush - my belife in the US got a shoot it have yet to reqover for to be honest - and it is still a long time before the election is there in honest - a lot of thing could happend between now and november next year... Not that I suspect the current clown cars drivers in the GOP is able to really harm Sanders if he was to be the candidate for the democratic party... But you never know...

Diclotican

[Ken Burch]

16. Socialist doesn't equal Cuban Communist.

Bernie and Fidel have nothing in common.

[Cheese Sandwich]

19. Actually he might. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.

[flamingdem]

23. FYI comrade is not such a negative term in Cuba

It's companero, and I mean it, he would very well use that term.

Some of us are still living in the cold war. You know who you are!

[JaneyVee]

24. Comrade Sanders 2016

[flamingdem]

25. That's the spirit!

I like Bernie, in fact I met him in Nicaragua at a Sandinista event. Meanwhile this thread inspired someone to label me a conservative. To which I responded "huh"?

Irony can be difficult on the interwebs.

And/or the Bernie issue is more caliente than I realized.

[Indepatriot]

29. I like Mr. Sanders suggestion that if he is going to be reffered to as a socialist at all times,

then all the other candidates should rightfully be labeled capitalists at all times.

[flamingdem]

34. A great touche

though I enjoy the Republican reaction to the word socialist.

[brooklynite]

31. Wouldn't it be embarrassing for Cuba to congratulate the US for freely electing a Socialist...

...when Cuba never has?

[flamingdem]

33. True that

is an irony of another kind.

[Hepburn]

37. I'm a socialist...

...and so far, I have had NO urges to communicate with Fidel.