2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders gets slimed by the New York Times: This is what a smiling, condescending hit job
The attitude that Lyall adopts toward Sen. Sanders is, instead, mildly and cheerfully disparaging affectionate, but at the proper distance of condescension; ironically agreeable, as you are allowed to be in dealing with a second cousin or an eccentric uncle who is a bit of a blowhard. Hers is not the first such article to appear on Sanders in the Times. Is it safe to predict that this will remain the papers approach to his campaign for as long as he stays in the race?
Though malice is absent, the pejorative shading here begins with the title. Does Sanders today describe himself as a revolutionist? Revolutionary roots implies that he does. Sanders indeed calls himself a democratic socialist. But it was a pretty steady difference between socialists and communists, throughout the 20th century, that socialists would choose not to describe themselves as revolutionists. They were radical reformers and tended to reject the violence that revolutionists embrace. Radical reformist roots would have made a truer but a less eye-catching headline....
Did he in fact come to Vermont to execute a plan? The word suggests that Sanders was a bit deluded. More likely, he came to Vermont with no plan except to organize and reform: something that people with political convictions have been known to do. The word upending is curious. It comes from football: A linebacker who tackles a charging halfback by grabbing his ankles and tossing him head-over-heels is said to upend him. You cant do that to something as heterogeneous and extended as American society. The word suggests as much without having to say so. But it is unlikely that he ever used the word upend; once again, the relevant missing word and idea is reform.
The NYT, NPR and other Bernie-bashers should have to report this tripe as in-kind contributions to the Hillary campaign.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Jeez Loooeeeez.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Every other night, if not every single night, ABC, NBC and CBS shower favorable coverage on Former Senator Clinton.
you would never know she was in the WH when Bill took this country done the NAFTA route. You would never know she served as Sam Walton's private attorney during a time when WalMart brutalized the small mom and pop stores across the south and the Midwest. (Of course she made up, or at least covered up, for her helping the Walton family by publishing her book, "It Takes A Village."
You would never know that she voted for the Iraq War Resolution, or that she stands for fracking and for GMO's and for Big Banking and endless wars.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)And consider, these are many of the same people who accuse Obama supporters of "swooning" over everything he does.
Irony alert.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)It is basically heresy to even bring up illiberal things he still believes.Like protecting gun manufacturers.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)"Cheerleaders" and various other nasty descriptions connoting the same thing.
But you can't criticize Saint Bernard.
I think the irony meter of some of these folks isn't just broken, it's shattered to smithereens.
Edited to add: Oh and their criticisms of Hillary are completely over the top, so irony, hypocrisy, etc.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)questionseverything
(9,656 posts)and rushed to get acorn defunded
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)msm/corporate masters are getting worried. this is happening, and they may not be able to stop it. a sanders presidency will upset their 0.01% power structure.
They will dismiss him, ridicule him until and even after he gets in the white house.
they are scared.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Thank me later. This is the type if shit (and worse) Hillary's been dealing with for over 20 years.
Vinca
(50,278 posts)FYI, I was also in Vermont in the late 1960's and it was a wild and crazy place. Bernie's beginnings were not all that unusual for the time and place. We're old now . . . all grown up . . . and many of our views have evolved.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)It's a Bernie love fest over there day in and day out so he's got that going for him.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Stevepol
(4,234 posts)Just because a reporter isn't already an avid supporter doesn't mean the writer is secretly doing a hatchet job.
This article is just a reporter trying to find a unique way of treating Bernie to make the article more interesting or appealing. I don't see any evidence of condescension. Maybe it's there, but I don't see it.
Besides, the article draws attention to Bernie and every little bit helps. When readers start following Bernie (maybe because they're curious after reading this article), they will discover right away that he's beyond being pigeon-holed by any article.
Bernie is the exact opposite of Grimes in the KY senate race recently when she refused to answer McConnell's question about who she voted for. She wouldn't even say she voted for Obama. In politics, a direct answer is nearly always better than evasion of any kind. Bernie is the best I've seen in answering directly and honestly. If Grimes had reacted as Bernie would have she could have beaten the Turtle: "Of course I voted for Obama. I'm a Democrat. Do you think I'd vote for Romney? Look what Obama has done and what Romney would have done for the country." Then she could have spent a half-hour riffing on Obama's successes. She might have put a qualifier in like "I don't agree with everything Obama has done BUT ........" After Grimes refused to say what was an obvious truth, I knew she had lost that election. Probably one of her political ADVISORS schooled her to be evasive instead of direct but the damage was done.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Good post, thanks.
dsc
(52,162 posts)which told us tales of illegality in the emails which turned out not to be true. Spend years and years pimping whitewater which was a nothing scandal. And I could go on for hours.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)are you just taking some salon editor's word for it?
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)then they fight you..."
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)mmonk
(52,589 posts)It ain't going to stop. Learn to accept it. Then fight hard and see how well we do against it.