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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:45 PM Jul 2015

Bernie Sanders gets slimed by the New York Times: This is what a smiling, condescending hit job

looks like.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/06/bernie_sanders_gets_slimed_by_the_new_york_times_this_is_what_a_smiling_condescending_hit_job_looks_like/

On the fourth of July, the New York Times gave its readers a first extended look at the political history of Bernie Sanders in Vermont. The article, by Sarah Lyall, is titled “Bernie Sanders’s Revolutionary Roots Were Nurtured in ’60s Vermont.” This sketch of the young Sanders is free of obvious malice. It would serve its purpose less effectively if it were malicious.

The attitude that Lyall adopts toward Sen. Sanders is, instead, mildly and cheerfully disparaging — affectionate, but at the proper distance of condescension; ironically agreeable, as you are allowed to be in dealing with a second cousin or an eccentric uncle who is a bit of a blowhard. Hers is not the first such article to appear on Sanders in the Times. Is it safe to predict that this will remain the paper’s approach to his campaign for as long as he stays in the race?

Though malice is absent, the pejorative shading here begins with the title. Does Sanders today describe himself as a revolutionist? “Revolutionary roots” implies that he does. Sanders indeed calls himself a democratic socialist. But it was a pretty steady difference between socialists and communists, throughout the 20th century, that socialists would choose not to describe themselves as revolutionists. They were radical reformers and tended to reject the violence that revolutionists embrace. “Radical reformist roots” would have made a truer but a less eye-catching headline....

Did he in fact come to Vermont to execute a plan? The word suggests that Sanders was a bit deluded. More likely, he came to Vermont with no plan except to organize and reform: something that people with political convictions have been known to do. The word “upending” is curious. It comes from football: A linebacker who tackles a charging halfback by grabbing his ankles and tossing him head-over-heels is said to upend him. You can’t do that to something as heterogeneous and extended as American society. The word suggests as much without having to say so. But it is unlikely that he ever used the word “upend”; once again, the relevant missing word and idea is reform.


The NYT, NPR and other Bernie-bashers should have to report this tripe as in-kind contributions to the Hillary campaign.
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Bernie Sanders gets slimed by the New York Times: This is what a smiling, condescending hit job (Original Post) KamaAina Jul 2015 OP
so you can't criticize: his voting record, past statements, current positions. What else? arely staircase Jul 2015 #1
And exactly where are HRC's past positions being criticized? truedelphi Jul 2015 #5
+1000 LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #10
I know. arely staircase Jul 2015 #11
misrepresentation is not synonymous with criticism. nt magical thyme Jul 2015 #13
Nope, and mind you, these are the same folks accusing Obama supporters of being "Swooners" and stevenleser Jul 2015 #17
They all scratch each others' backs. closeupready Jul 2015 #2
same nyt that helped lie us into war questionseverything Jul 2015 #3
we have to expect more of this. restorefreedom Jul 2015 #4
Purchase thicker skin. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #6
You know Bernie's a contender when the hit pieces appear. Vinca Jul 2015 #7
Well at least he's got Salon on his side LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #8
It means Bernie is significant and is a threat in this campaign Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #9
I would give the journalists at least a little slack. Stevepol Jul 2015 #12
Positive way to look at it. RiverLover Jul 2015 #14
right this is the same NYT dsc Jul 2015 #15
Did anyone here read the story in the NYT or Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #16
"...then they laugh at you, then they patronize you, Ron Green Jul 2015 #18
Since so many Sanders supporters do that to Hillary, she's going to win! nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #20
Always remember money is the life blood of politics. Even moreso today. mmonk Jul 2015 #19

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
5. And exactly where are HRC's past positions being criticized?
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:17 PM
Jul 2015

Every other night, if not every single night, ABC, NBC and CBS shower favorable coverage on Former Senator Clinton.

you would never know she was in the WH when Bill took this country done the NAFTA route. You would never know she served as Sam Walton's private attorney during a time when WalMart brutalized the small mom and pop stores across the south and the Midwest. (Of course she made up, or at least covered up, for her helping the Walton family by publishing her book, "It Takes A Village.&quot

You would never know that she voted for the Iraq War Resolution, or that she stands for fracking and for GMO's and for Big Banking and endless wars.

 

LordGlenconner

(1,348 posts)
10. +1000
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:52 PM
Jul 2015

And consider, these are many of the same people who accuse Obama supporters of "swooning" over everything he does.

Irony alert.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
11. I know.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 06:15 PM
Jul 2015

It is basically heresy to even bring up illiberal things he still believes.Like protecting gun manufacturers.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
17. Nope, and mind you, these are the same folks accusing Obama supporters of being "Swooners" and
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 10:11 AM
Jul 2015

"Cheerleaders" and various other nasty descriptions connoting the same thing.

But you can't criticize Saint Bernard.

I think the irony meter of some of these folks isn't just broken, it's shattered to smithereens.

Edited to add: Oh and their criticisms of Hillary are completely over the top, so irony, hypocrisy, etc.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
4. we have to expect more of this.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:15 PM
Jul 2015

msm/corporate masters are getting worried. this is happening, and they may not be able to stop it. a sanders presidency will upset their 0.01% power structure.

They will dismiss him, ridicule him until and even after he gets in the white house.

they are scared.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
6. Purchase thicker skin.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:18 PM
Jul 2015

Thank me later. This is the type if shit (and worse) Hillary's been dealing with for over 20 years.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
7. You know Bernie's a contender when the hit pieces appear.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:44 PM
Jul 2015

FYI, I was also in Vermont in the late 1960's and it was a wild and crazy place. Bernie's beginnings were not all that unusual for the time and place. We're old now . . . all grown up . . . and many of our views have evolved.

 

LordGlenconner

(1,348 posts)
8. Well at least he's got Salon on his side
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:50 PM
Jul 2015

It's a Bernie love fest over there day in and day out so he's got that going for him.




Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
12. I would give the journalists at least a little slack.
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 12:00 PM
Jul 2015

Just because a reporter isn't already an avid supporter doesn't mean the writer is secretly doing a hatchet job.

This article is just a reporter trying to find a unique way of treating Bernie to make the article more interesting or appealing. I don't see any evidence of condescension. Maybe it's there, but I don't see it.

Besides, the article draws attention to Bernie and every little bit helps. When readers start following Bernie (maybe because they're curious after reading this article), they will discover right away that he's beyond being pigeon-holed by any article.

Bernie is the exact opposite of Grimes in the KY senate race recently when she refused to answer McConnell's question about who she voted for. She wouldn't even say she voted for Obama. In politics, a direct answer is nearly always better than evasion of any kind. Bernie is the best I've seen in answering directly and honestly. If Grimes had reacted as Bernie would have she could have beaten the Turtle: "Of course I voted for Obama. I'm a Democrat. Do you think I'd vote for Romney? Look what Obama has done and what Romney would have done for the country." Then she could have spent a half-hour riffing on Obama's successes. She might have put a qualifier in like "I don't agree with everything Obama has done BUT ........" After Grimes refused to say what was an obvious truth, I knew she had lost that election. Probably one of her political ADVISORS schooled her to be evasive instead of direct but the damage was done.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
15. right this is the same NYT
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:19 AM
Jul 2015

which told us tales of illegality in the emails which turned out not to be true. Spend years and years pimping whitewater which was a nothing scandal. And I could go on for hours.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
19. Always remember money is the life blood of politics. Even moreso today.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:01 AM
Jul 2015

It ain't going to stop. Learn to accept it. Then fight hard and see how well we do against it.

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