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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:27 AM Jul 2015

Clinton warns GOP will repeal Obamacare

KEN THOMAS, ASSOCIATED PRESS

HANOVER, N.H. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton is warning New Hampshire voters that if the country elects a Republican president, the next administration will repeal President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul.

The Democratic presidential front-runner says she will offer continuity on the policies under Obama that have worked for the vast majority of Americans. And she says the federal budget was in order under her husband’s administration until it was “rudely interrupted” by Republicans.

Clinton tells 850 people at a park at Dartmouth College she hopes the U.S. will get a deal “that puts a lid” on Iran’s nuclear program. But she says Iran will still cause major problems as a sponsor of terrorism.

The event was moved outdoors and comes as rival Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders has drawn big crowds around the country.

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http://www.salon.com/2015/07/03/clinton_warns_gop_will_repeal_obamacare/

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Clinton warns GOP will repeal Obamacare (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2015 OP
Really? sgtbenobo Jul 2015 #1
Really? You don't think a GOP win in 2016 would be disasterous? DanTex Jul 2015 #3
They will definitely try. Most of the republican candidates have said as much. What many may not still_one Jul 2015 #27
When you don't have much else madokie Jul 2015 #4
+1 ...Hillary fear tactic. L0oniX Jul 2015 #32
Why is that weak? Seems pretty factual to me, and I am babylonsister Jul 2015 #19
clue.. DCBob Jul 2015 #23
Yeah I guess you're right, Republicans won't dismantle Obamacare... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #28
They will certainly try. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #2
Jeb Bush has already said he would go back in full force to Iraq. Iliyah Jul 2015 #9
IMO, the threat of a GOP president, with GOP control of the House, MoonRiver Jul 2015 #10
Well, "Imagine" by John Lennon won't mean a hill of beans Iliyah Jul 2015 #11
HRC offers free food on college campus - pretty slick! Divernan Jul 2015 #5
I wish that Hillary would campaign near me...I'm hungry! virtualobserver Jul 2015 #26
I really dislike fear as suasion HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #6
It isn't fear when it is the truth dsc Jul 2015 #39
K & R Iliyah Jul 2015 #7
No shit, Hillary? 99Forever Jul 2015 #8
Typical responses on this site. If Sanders had said it they would be praising him. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #12
Exactly MoonRiver Jul 2015 #13
Ditto Iliyah Jul 2015 #16
Presume to speak for other people much? 99Forever Jul 2015 #14
I have the ability to observe. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #15
And plenty of flamebait to post. 99Forever Jul 2015 #17
What flaimbait have i posted? hrmjustin Jul 2015 #18
... 99Forever Jul 2015 #21
. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #22
Some on this board have dehumanized her Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #20
The GOP will never stop trying to repeal this law Gothmog Jul 2015 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author jwirr Jul 2015 #25
Jeezus, she didn't even mention Bernie. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #29
Fine for you I will delete it. jwirr Jul 2015 #31
FACA Latrecia Bennett Jul 2015 #30
She is so off the mark on this one. abakan Jul 2015 #33
Bernie will call for single payer! L0oniX Jul 2015 #34
In all sincerity mythology Jul 2015 #36
It won't happen for decades. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #38
There are plenty on the left that don't realize that possibility exists Sheepshank Jul 2015 #35
Definitely HassleCat Jul 2015 #37

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
3. Really? You don't think a GOP win in 2016 would be disasterous?
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:44 AM
Jul 2015

Do you remember what happened last time the GOP won the presidency?

still_one

(92,304 posts)
27. They will definitely try. Most of the republican candidates have said as much. What many may not
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 01:39 PM
Jul 2015

realize is that Congress can play games with the purse strings, in addition to whittling down the ACA so it becomes ineffective without actually repealing it.

If Hillary came out and said if a republican wins the white house, they will appoint justices like Scalia, Thomas, or Alito. Would anyone have an issue with that, or because Hillary said it, reflexively say it isn't so?

madokie

(51,076 posts)
4. When you don't have much else
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:47 AM
Jul 2015

fear might work
What exactly is it that would make me want to vote for Hillary. Being a woman is the only one I can come up with and the reason for that is I so want to see a woman win the Presidency in my lifetime. I'll be damned if that in itself is enough for me to vote for someone though

Don't get me wrong I'll vote for our Nominee in the general no matter who it is. I'm a true blue democratic party member 100%

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
28. Yeah I guess you're right, Republicans won't dismantle Obamacare...
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 01:39 PM
Jul 2015

Even though that's exactly what they're running on. Thanks for being a voice of "reason".

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
2. They will certainly try.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:44 AM
Jul 2015

It is a real threat, and just one piece of all the damage that a Republican president could do, especially if s/he has a Republican controlled Congress.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
9. Jeb Bush has already said he would go back in full force to Iraq.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:15 AM
Jul 2015

Another GOP President with a GOP congress, oh my. Rove and Cheney's paradise.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
10. IMO, the threat of a GOP president, with GOP control of the House,
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:19 AM
Jul 2015

and quite possibly the Senate, is one of the greatest threats to humanity I can think of.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
5. HRC offers free food on college campus - pretty slick!
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:52 AM
Jul 2015

The event was originally scheduled to be held at a private Rope Ferry Road home listed on real estate websites for $3.8 million, with members of the public invited to attend by signing up ahead of time. Campaign spokesman Harrell Kirstein said the planned location was switched to the Bema on Thursday afternoon because of “large local interest.” Both the OP link and mine refer to an estimated 850 in attendance - I'd like to know the origin of that estimate.

Many people interviewed said that they had planned to attend the Rope Ferry Road event, but others said they came upon the Bema event by chance as the buzz spread downtown Friday. Hanover resident Joanna M. Long, 83, was among that group, saying she found out about the event at CVS when she was wondering what all the traffic was about.

Clinton spoke for about a half-hour at the sun-soaked amphitheater, which saw long lines for patriotic cookout fare like hamburgers, apple pie and lemonade before the former first lady and secretary of state took the stage about 2:30 p.m.

Plainfield’s Thom Wolke, 56, attended wearing a homemade shirt bearing Sanders’ name and the phrase “don’t waste your vote.” He said he found parts of Clinton’s remarks to be “disingenuous,” including her vows to fight Citizen’s United.

Wolke said he found it to be “distasteful” when Clinton brought up Freddie Gray, the black Baltimore man who died after being taken into police custody in April, calling it a “tragic, terrible incident that is obviously now in the court system.” Wolke said he was bothered that Clinton then talked about reports that Gray experienced lead poisoning as a toddler.
http://www.vnews.com/home/17603554-95/clinton-recalls-time-at-dartmouth
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
26. I wish that Hillary would campaign near me...I'm hungry!
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 01:30 PM
Jul 2015

She is right, though....some Repubs will try.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
6. I really dislike fear as suasion
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:52 AM
Jul 2015

I have no problem with HRC being a champion for the ACA...

But, fear strongly motivates -conservative- behavior, and I'm not at all into Dems persisting in conservative behavior. In my mind 'champions' are models of courage.

Oversimplifications of political opponents in this way pushes the 'us' vs 'them' nature of the general election as a contest against an evil stereotype. It diverts attention from what is going on now...the primary challenges.

I hope Sec Clinton's team will reshape this into something rather more positive and demonstrative of courageous leadership...perhaps she and her team can find a cause in championing the reshaping of federal support so that ACA is affordable to people in states where anti-social conserv-atarian legislatures rejected medicaid expansion.

dsc

(52,165 posts)
39. It isn't fear when it is the truth
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 03:20 PM
Jul 2015

every single, solitary, GOP candidate as explicitly stated, over and over again, that they would repeal ACA the very first chance they got. I don't know how much clearer they possibly could be.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
8. No shit, Hillary?
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:12 AM
Jul 2015

The Teapublicans don't like the ACA?

Wow, what a surprise to learn that.

And you're the onlyest one who can save it , right?



Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
20. Some on this board have dehumanized her
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:39 AM
Jul 2015

She has been dehumanized to the point where she is evil in the eyes of many on this board. Everything she says, no matter how accurate or benign is twisted and attacked.

ACA: The only reason they have not is due to fact that they do not YET have total power. What she says is not a "fear tactic"--it is the truth.


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Latrecia Bennett

(34 posts)
30. FACA
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 01:44 PM
Jul 2015

If you like your plan, we doubled/tripled the price...but you CAN still keep it if you can pay for it...

Free healthcare doesn't subsidize itself.

Hey don't worry folks, Chris Christie is going to replace it with something better once he is elected. Yup
that's what he said. Our government program is going to be better than their government program.

abakan

(1,819 posts)
33. She is so off the mark on this one.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 01:52 PM
Jul 2015

If you want to make people concerned about what the Republicans would do with the Whitehouse, House, and Senate. Tell the voters what will happen when the GOP has the chance to add more people like, Alito, Roberts, Thomas, and Scalia to the Supreme Court. The thought terrifies me, so after the primaries, I will whole heartily support whoever the nominee turns out to be.

Repealing Obamacare, I believe will be harder than is thought.

For all you Clinton folks, I am in no way denigrating your candidate so please don't act as if I am.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
36. In all sincerity
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 02:01 PM
Jul 2015

how will he actually get past just calling for it and instead enacting it. What's the path to do that given the general electorate and the make up of the House and Senate?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
35. There are plenty on the left that don't realize that possibility exists
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 01:54 PM
Jul 2015

They think it's a permanent fixture.

It good to realize their attendance at the polling station is incredibly important. I wonder if she might be concerned that her polling numbers against the Reps looks solid enough that some won't feel it's necessary to show up?

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
37. Definitely
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 02:04 PM
Jul 2015

With a Republican president, the GOP would pass a bill directly repealing Obamacare, and throwing health insurance into total chaos. Consumers would have to make the old "non-choices" between bad plans and worse plans. Except for wealthy people, of course, who would regain those "Cadillac" plans they used to have in the good old days.

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