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antigop

(12,778 posts)
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 07:14 PM Jun 2015

Hillary's Campaign Manager: “A lot of the public polling is not very reliable"

Taken from:
Hillary Clinton Aides Shed Light on Bill’s Role in Her Campaign
http://time.com/3920153/bill-clinton-hillary-campaign-adviser/

Mook also dismissed recent poll numbers that suggest Hillary Clinton’s favorability numbers are slipping. According to a CNN poll published last week, 57% of Americans think the former secretary of state is not trustworthy. “A lot of the public polling is not very reliable,” Mook said. “I don’t pay a whole lot of attention to it.



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Hillary's Campaign Manager: “A lot of the public polling is not very reliable" (Original Post) antigop Jun 2015 OP
oh this is rich Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #1
I thought it was pretty funny. antigop Jun 2015 #3
feel free to use it. antigop Jun 2015 #5
let me womansplain this to you: "Its only good if it favors us. Bad otherwise." roguevalley Jun 2015 #13
IOKIYAC? nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #20
It only counts if you're a Clinton??? nt antigop Jun 2015 #24
It's OK if you're a Clinton. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #25
Funny thing; I've heard the Sanders people say the same thing... brooklynite Jun 2015 #27
We don't say it is wrong.. we are addressing why it exists Motown_Johnny Jun 2015 #37
Kick. n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #39
:D OK. :D roguevalley Jun 2015 #38
BOHICA! SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #19
Baghdad Bob...is that you? HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #2
Thought so; elleng Jun 2015 #4
Too perfect. Bernie 2016 Jun 2015 #6
yeah, I thought so. antigop Jun 2015 #7
Boomerang! nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #26
hat tip to Divernan who posted the article antigop Jun 2015 #8
Who you think you're foolin:, Mook? demwing Jun 2015 #9
So all those polls we saw here over the past year, where Hillary was 80% with Liberals, were not sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #10
^^^this^^^ L0oniX Jun 2015 #12
I also noticed something... antigop Jun 2015 #18
interestingly a strong explanation was that "more liberal" was just code for "very Democratic" MisterP Jun 2015 #22
Even more serious than the competition, is the contrast Babel_17 Jun 2015 #32
Yes, this won't be the kind of campaign we are so used to and bored by. It will be sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #35
Food for thought, and thanks ... Babel_17 Jun 2015 #36
Laughing. My. Ass. Off. kath Jun 2015 #11
ROTFLMAOPMP!!! RoccoR5955 Jun 2015 #14
Oh them fickle fickle polls. 99Forever Jun 2015 #15
LMAO OhioChick Jun 2015 #16
What an unfortunate lastname... n/t DRoseDARs Jun 2015 #17
He's genre-savvy about it though Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #21
Unfortunate? Apt. marble falls Jun 2015 #30
Of course. Hillary only believes in the very expensive, very secret private polling. morningfog Jun 2015 #23
I guess he has the math. n/t winter is coming Jun 2015 #28
Does her campaign take that view about the polls that supposedly show her with a big lead Ken Burch Jun 2015 #29
His pay depends on the attention paid to his numbers Babel_17 Jun 2015 #31
Where have I heard that before, some guy whose name had double-letters... JHB Jun 2015 #33
Two words... Fumesucker Jun 2015 #34
 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
1. oh this is rich
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 07:17 PM
Jun 2015

not as rich as the Clintons mysteriously got from public office, but still

does this mean the HRC loyalists will stop telling us the polls say we need to bend over and accept the inevitable?

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
13. let me womansplain this to you: "Its only good if it favors us. Bad otherwise."
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 07:51 PM
Jun 2015

Her sudden changes of position and newly claimed championship of those who aren't rich/banksters/etc appears to be fooling no one.

brooklynite

(94,740 posts)
27. Funny thing; I've heard the Sanders people say the same thing...
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:11 AM
Jun 2015

Clinton lead: it's "name recognition" or "too early to be meaningful"

Sanders gaining: "the Clinton campaign is collapsing"

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
37. We don't say it is wrong.. we are addressing why it exists
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:48 PM
Jun 2015

Those are two very different things.


It is name recognition and it is too early to be meaningful because the debates have not even started yet.

Going into full on denial is completely different.


 

Bernie 2016

(90 posts)
6. Too perfect.
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 07:22 PM
Jun 2015

This is an excellent weapon against Ms. Clintons supporters touting polls this early saying Hillary is inevitiable.

That means the Clinton campaign may be *very* nervous about the polls earlier than expected. Their internals aren't good.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
9. Who you think you're foolin:, Mook?
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 07:28 PM
Jun 2015

We've seen 8 seasons of The West Wing and 3 seasons of House of Cards, lol. We know your tricks, Mookie.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
10. So all those polls we saw here over the past year, where Hillary was 80% with Liberals, were not
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 07:34 PM
Jun 2015

not reliable after all?

I remember arguing that since there were no other candidates in the race, they probably didn't mean much. But that argument was dismissed completely with 'who else can compete with her'?

Well, now we know.

antigop

(12,778 posts)
18. I also noticed something...
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 09:45 PM
Jun 2015

Whenever the media mentions polls, I can never find the actual questions that were asked.

How were the questions worded?

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
22. interestingly a strong explanation was that "more liberal" was just code for "very Democratic"
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 11:28 PM
Jun 2015

the two spectra have been heavily conflated

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
32. Even more serious than the competition, is the contrast
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 10:53 AM
Jun 2015

All the candidates we've seen so far have gone extensively on the record over the years. Their associates, and donors, and supporters, and beneficiaries of their actions, are also known, and will receive more and more attention.

This isn't the general election where one gets compared to the champion of the ethically and morally bankrupt Republican party.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
35. Yes, this won't be the kind of campaign we are so used to and bored by. It will be
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 12:33 PM
Jun 2015

the campaign where all of the candidates will be forced to talk about issues.

I also think that NEGATIVE ADS are going to become an issue, and not a good one for those who go that route. Eg, O'Malley's negative attack ad on Bernie has backfired on him already, causing former supporters to back away from his candidacy comparing his tactics, so early in the game, to the far higher standards Bernie is adhering to.

It's a shame as I liked him as a second choice had Bernie not been in the race. But not anymore, that exposed him as part of the old status quo regarding our low standards for what passes for 'discussion'.

Btw, Bernie wiped the floor with that ad, addressing again ONLY THE ISSUE, not O'Malley who he never mentioned, on Stephanapoulis show this morning.

He is a class act and the more the difference is seen the more people will demand his standards of running a campaign.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
36. Food for thought, and thanks ...
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:59 PM
Jun 2015

Food for thought, and thanks for the heads-up about the Stephanapoulis show. Interesting to consider what GS thinks of Bernie; IIRC he was noted for being a bit of an idealist, back in the day.

I was prepared to forgive some rough delivery if Sanders was going to energetically get out there and give lots of interviews and speeches, and take on the hard questions and issues.

A bit surprised and very pleased that Sanders is performing well above my estimation. And I wasn't setting the bar low at all. Not much precedent for his performance, and I think it's partly how he's giving energizing talks that is causing the upheaval we're seeing.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
23. Of course. Hillary only believes in the very expensive, very secret private polling.
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 12:17 AM
Jun 2015

She can afford to buy the polling she wants.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
29. Does her campaign take that view about the polls that supposedly show her with a big lead
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 04:50 AM
Jun 2015

for the nomination?

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
31. His pay depends on the attention paid to his numbers
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 10:42 AM
Jun 2015

Oh boy, his attitude suggests a campaign that is operating from deep within a bubble. Time to raise more cash, and spend lots of it, to dispel these numbers.

JHB

(37,162 posts)
33. Where have I heard that before, some guy whose name had double-letters...
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 10:53 AM
Jun 2015

And started with "M"....

Hmmm.

Was it Meep? No. Maapp? No, just one set of doubles. Hmmm. Mill? No, but there's something about that... Mitt! Yeah, that's the guy! How did that whole "poll unskewing" thing go for him, anyhow?

Might want to remember that, Mookie.

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