2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary's Campaign Manager: “A lot of the public polling is not very reliable"
Taken from:
Hillary Clinton Aides Shed Light on Bills Role in Her Campaign
http://time.com/3920153/bill-clinton-hillary-campaign-adviser/
Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)not as rich as the Clintons mysteriously got from public office, but still
does this mean the HRC loyalists will stop telling us the polls say we need to bend over and accept the inevitable?
antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Her sudden changes of position and newly claimed championship of those who aren't rich/banksters/etc appears to be fooling no one.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)brooklynite
(94,740 posts)Clinton lead: it's "name recognition" or "too early to be meaningful"
Sanders gaining: "the Clinton campaign is collapsing"
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Those are two very different things.
It is name recognition and it is too early to be meaningful because the debates have not even started yet.
Going into full on denial is completely different.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Sorry, couldn't resist.....
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)elleng
(131,129 posts)NO WAY Webb is beating O'Malley!
Bernie 2016
(90 posts)This is an excellent weapon against Ms. Clintons supporters touting polls this early saying Hillary is inevitiable.
That means the Clinton campaign may be *very* nervous about the polls earlier than expected. Their internals aren't good.
antigop
(12,778 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)We've seen 8 seasons of The West Wing and 3 seasons of House of Cards, lol. We know your tricks, Mookie.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)not reliable after all?
I remember arguing that since there were no other candidates in the race, they probably didn't mean much. But that argument was dismissed completely with 'who else can compete with her'?
Well, now we know.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Whenever the media mentions polls, I can never find the actual questions that were asked.
How were the questions worded?
MisterP
(23,730 posts)the two spectra have been heavily conflated
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)All the candidates we've seen so far have gone extensively on the record over the years. Their associates, and donors, and supporters, and beneficiaries of their actions, are also known, and will receive more and more attention.
This isn't the general election where one gets compared to the champion of the ethically and morally bankrupt Republican party.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)the campaign where all of the candidates will be forced to talk about issues.
I also think that NEGATIVE ADS are going to become an issue, and not a good one for those who go that route. Eg, O'Malley's negative attack ad on Bernie has backfired on him already, causing former supporters to back away from his candidacy comparing his tactics, so early in the game, to the far higher standards Bernie is adhering to.
It's a shame as I liked him as a second choice had Bernie not been in the race. But not anymore, that exposed him as part of the old status quo regarding our low standards for what passes for 'discussion'.
Btw, Bernie wiped the floor with that ad, addressing again ONLY THE ISSUE, not O'Malley who he never mentioned, on Stephanapoulis show this morning.
He is a class act and the more the difference is seen the more people will demand his standards of running a campaign.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Food for thought, and thanks for the heads-up about the Stephanapoulis show. Interesting to consider what GS thinks of Bernie; IIRC he was noted for being a bit of an idealist, back in the day.
I was prepared to forgive some rough delivery if Sanders was going to energetically get out there and give lots of interviews and speeches, and take on the hard questions and issues.
A bit surprised and very pleased that Sanders is performing well above my estimation. And I wasn't setting the bar low at all. Not much precedent for his performance, and I think it's partly how he's giving energizing talks that is causing the upheaval we're seeing.
kath
(10,565 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)OhioChick
(23,218 posts)DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)I could not find one image anywhere with him wearing a red shirt
marble falls
(57,247 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)She can afford to buy the polling she wants.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)for the nomination?
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Oh boy, his attitude suggests a campaign that is operating from deep within a bubble. Time to raise more cash, and spend lots of it, to dispel these numbers.
JHB
(37,162 posts)And started with "M"....
Hmmm.
Was it Meep? No. Maapp? No, just one set of doubles. Hmmm. Mill? No, but there's something about that... Mitt! Yeah, that's the guy! How did that whole "poll unskewing" thing go for him, anyhow?
Might want to remember that, Mookie.