Which of these is more likely to be a single-issue "dealbreaker" for you?

[Ken Burch]

Please elaborate in the thread as to why the "dealbreaker" you chose matters more. When elaborating, please state which candidate you support at this stage(if any), if you're willing to do so(obviously you can ski this step if your havea candudate logo as your avatar.

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	HRC's late-in-the-game support of same-sex marriage after previously opposing it.
	9 (90%)
	Bernie's vote against the Brady Bill.
	1 (10%)
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[MattSh]

1. Neither.

Hillary's war hawkishness is the deal-breaker for me.

[Ken Burch]

2. OK...that's valid...

I limited the poll options to the ones above because they've been big "talking points" this week.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

21. Yes

and her comfort zone with Wall Street

[PoliticAverse]

3. I'm sure the 'Iraq War vote' (a 2008 'dealbreaker' for many) is still one. n/t

[leveymg]

31. Her leading role in pressing regime change in Iraq, Libya and Syria, despite the recognized danger

that would create a regional safe area for the rise of Sunni extremists such as al-Qaeda and al-Nusra, which morphed into ISIS. It's now clear that danger was known since the beginning, and she pursued it anyway. Her judgement is defective, and she's too closely allied with the Saudis and Gulf states.

[joshcryer]

4. They were both practical votes.

Therefore irrelevant. If a politician makes a practical maneuver then it's not an issue to me.

[Kalidurga]

5. Corporate butt kissing

Hillary talks a good game. But, one of her speeches clearly supported the trickled on theory of economics.

[PADemD]

6. Hillary's Iraq War Vote

Same issue in 2008.

[IVoteDFL]

7. Technically neither

I am willing to believe that Hillary has evolved regarding same sex marriage, or that would be my dealbreaker. Now it is her love of war and money.

[rogerashton]

8. Neither

I don't like either, but neither is enough to make me oppose a nominee of the Democratic Party.

[abakan]

26. ^^This^^

[1StrongBlackMan]

9. My single issues weren't listed. They are (in no particular order) ...

HRC's pantsuits and/or Bernie's hair ... those are threshold issues for me!

[Agschmid]

10. Neither.

[upaloopa]

11. Let those who are perfect have a single issue deal breaker.

[djean111]

12. Neither of those. TPP, war, fracking. Corporate Wall Street coziness.

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I support Bernie.
Hillary's recent adoption of gay marriage rights is just illustrative of how one should look at all the deeds and words, not just the last few years' worth.

I can see why some would make Bernie's gun votes their own personal deal-breaker. It is not, for me, because I think the bills were flawed and most likely impossible to enforce in the real world. The only way to stop gun violence, IMO, is to stop making guns.

[99Forever]

13. I have never been a single issue voter.

My problems with neoliberals are multiple.

[TheKentuckian]

19. Exactly. I also find those most likely to be crying about "single issue voters" run closer to being

what they say causes them teeth gnashing.

Often I think it is code for being issues oriented at all.

[99Forever]

33. I think you are correct.

It really seems to upset some of them that I won't just turncoat when they dig up and totally misrepresent ONE thing Bernie did or said. Yet I can lay a lexicon of things in Clinton's history that truly troubles me and supposed to just "get over it."

[Chan790]

14. Neither. My single issue dealbreaker...

is Hillary's past association with economic center-rightists and close ties to the financial elite.

I'm okay with either O'Malley or Sanders as a nominee at this point.

[Cheese Sandwich]

15. The Iraq war vote

I don't have a single issue, but if I did that would be the one.

[ismnotwasm]

16. Neither

There is no deal breaker. I support Hillary now but will vote for the Democratic nominee. I support Hillary because I feel she is best qualified. I have no particular issue with Sanders.

[Bernie 2016]

22. For what's it's worth, Bernie is far better qualified than Ms. Clinton

and he does stand an excellent chance of defeating Ms. Clinton. Bernie's numbers continue to trend upward, and Ms. Clinton's numbers are trending downward because Clinton's support was always soft, and most people still don't know who Bernie Sanders is. Once they learn about him, the soft support for Clinton will be gone.

[ismnotwasm]

23. Well that's not how I see it

[LWolf]

17. Neither.

It's not a single issue that is a deal breaker with me when it comes to HRC; it's way too many issues, and they aren't "deal-breakers," because I have never been interested in "making a deal" with her to begin with.

[Jefferson23]

18. Neither, I have no single issue. If I have to label it, it would best be

described as neo-liberal policies that I do not support.

Case in point:

Deprogramming Progressives Indoctrinated into Supporting Austerity
Posted: 12/28/2012

A little bit of economics can be a truly terrible thing, for the introductory classes in micro and macro-economics are the most dogmatic and myth-filled part of the neoliberal curriculum. Dogmas that have been falsified for 75 years (such as austerity) are taught as revealed truth. The poor indoctrinated student is then launched into the world "knowing" that austerity is the answer and that mass unemployment and prolonged recessions are small prices to be paid (by others) to achieve the holy grail of a balanced budget. Students are taught that national budgets are really just like household budgets.

These dogmas are not simply false, they are self-destructive and cruel. Neoliberal economics is so bad and has gone downhill at such a rapid rate that it now worships the economic analog to bleeding patients -- austerity -- as a response to a Great Recession. Millions of people are indoctrinated annually into believing this long-falsified nonsense, and that includes people who consider themselves progressives.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-k-black/deprogramming-progressive_b_2375358.html

[Fumesucker]

20. I'm not an issues voter

I make my selection based on popularity, glitz, propaganda and M$M fawning over the candidates.

[Evergreen Emerald]

24. your premise is wrong

[MineralMan]

25. Too few choices, by far.

I'm not a single-issue voter, anyhow. Life's too complex for that.

[tymorial]

27. Neither.

I don't believe in single issue deal breakers.

[mainstreetonce]

28. Given only those choices

I chose the vote against'the Brady Bill.

Everyone came late to same sex marriage. Same sex marriage is now settled.

The fight for sensible gun laws still looms.

[Maedhros]

29. Neither of those.

For me, it was "We came, we saw, he died."

Bloodthirsty, jingoistic gloating is a deal-killer.

[HooptieWagon]

30. Corporatism is the deal-breaker for me.

However, HRC's late to the party evolutions don't reflect well on her. She didn't lead on Iraq or LBGT rights, she followed.

[corkhead]

32. I choose my candidate by deciding which one I would rather have a beer with

[Agnosticsherbet]

34. Sanders record on gun control is a negative.

Obama's record in 2008 did not affect my vote then. Hillary evolved, so it isn't an issue.

I am not a single issue voter. I keep a score card on issues, and will vote for the candidate with the best score in June next year

[OilemFirchen]

35. Pretty simple, really. The deal-breaker:

Is the the candidate the Democratic Party nominee?

If yes, I'm in.

If no, I'm not.

[Sheepshank]

36. Neither

[PatrickforO]

37. My problem is I simply don't trust Hillary because I think she has been in the pocket of

neoliberal corporatist billionaires for many years; I know her husband has.

The issues on which I disagree with Hillary Clinton:
1. Vote for the Iraq war
2. Her practice of 'economic statecraft' in helping create the TPP
3. Her donor list versus Bernie's
4. Her refusal during the 2008 Dem primary debates to define health care as a basic human right

I just can't get behind her, because I feel like she's too in tune with focus groups and polls and not enough in tune with her heart.

[DonCoquixote]

38. There is one circumstance

where I would not vote for a Democratic candidate, and only one..

Vice President: Rahm Emmanuel.

[davidpdx]

39. Honestly, neither

Because neither of these issues have influenced my thinking on who I might support. I think you could put quite a few other issues in there that could have been "dealbreakers" in terms of supporting one or the other.

[Populist_Prole]

40. Neither. Trade / Corporatism is mine

[NCTraveler]

41. Pieces of shit attempting to make Hillary look anti-equality.

Pieces of shit attempting to make Sanders look anti-equality.


Go O'Malley.

[Skittles]

42. Hillary's dealbreaker for me will always be her vote for IWR

to me that is indefensible