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NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 02:18 PM Jun 2015

Sanders Statement on House Trade Vote

Sanders Statement on House Trade Vote
Thursday, June 18, 2015

WASHINTON, June 18 – Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) issued the following statement today after the House, in an about face, revived a bill to give President Barack Obama authority to send Congress trade agreements it can reject or ratify but not change:

“I am extremely disappointed but not surprised that the House put the interests of powerful multi-national corporations, drug companies and Wall Street ahead of the needs of American workers.

“I will work to defeat the measure once and for all when the bill returns to the Senate. This disastrous trade deal is opposed by all of organized labor in America, virtually every environmental group in the country and many religious groups. They all know that it will make it easier for corporations to abandon the United States and move good-paying American jobs to low-wage countries overseas.

“I believe that trade is good but we need a new approach that benefits the working families and not just corporate America.”

Link:http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-statement-on-house-trade-vote
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Sanders Statement on House Trade Vote (Original Post) NorthCarolina Jun 2015 OP
They will never stop and neither will we! Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #1
Has Secretary Clinton made a statement on the House trade vote? TheProgressive Jun 2015 #2
For good, against bad. -H frylock Jun 2015 #12
Would it matter if she did? FiveGoodMen Jun 2015 #29
If she did or does it would go something like this, "It is important for our President to be able rhett o rick Jun 2015 #39
Anyone have link to roll call of vote? rbnyc Jun 2015 #3
Roll Call vote john978 Jun 2015 #5
Thank you! rbnyc Jun 2015 #7
wrong bill roll call canoeist52 Jun 2015 #16
Bummer rbnyc Jun 2015 #17
The real vote canoeist52 Jun 2015 #21
Thank you so much again. nt rbnyc Jun 2015 #31
My congressman Xavier Becerra voted no. And I am going to thank him for that. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #23
mine voted no too rbnyc Jun 2015 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author canoeist52 Jun 2015 #15
Pleeeeez, I don't want to see that. I'm ok with tar and feathers. nm rhett o rick Jun 2015 #40
Go Bernie! SoapBox Jun 2015 #4
Thank you. Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 #36
obama hasn't been terrible redruddyred Jun 2015 #46
Generally agree. Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 #47
leadership is weird redruddyred Jun 2015 #48
K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #6
Has Hillary released a statement about this yet? Indepatriot Jun 2015 #8
All you need to know about Hillary and the TPP is that NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #10
THIS FACT PLUS HER DEAFENING SILENCE ON THE CURRENT TPP MATTER, SAYS IT ALL drynberg Jun 2015 #44
Also, I should have pointed out NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #11
Hey, it takes more than 30 minutes to get afocus group together. Fuddnik Jun 2015 #14
And to stick her finger in the wind MissDeeds Jun 2015 #28
If only she'd stick her finger in the wind. She clearly knows who she supports, her people rhett o rick Jun 2015 #41
Her stance is the bill is a lemon, but we are going to have to make lemonade out of it. Kalidurga Jun 2015 #26
Thank you Bernie for sticking up for us! Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #9
Yes!!!!! Thank you, Bernie! LongTomH Jun 2015 #13
I hope more Americans understand why this man has called for a political revolution in this country Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #18
You nailed it. nt bunnies Jun 2015 #19
This blow against us is devastating..how we recover is up to us. Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #20
And the thing that really gets me is that so many Americans, bunnies Jun 2015 #24
He is our chance, if not him, the problems will only get worse..so yea, I can only say Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #25
Couldnt agree more. nt bunnies Jun 2015 #32
K&R. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #22
Agree with Sanders, "we need new approach that benefits working families.' Doing nothing ain't it. Hoyt Jun 2015 #27
. Fuddnik Jun 2015 #30
Who suggested doing nothing? rbnyc Jun 2015 #34
... rbnyc Jun 2015 #35
More horseshit about "trade" and not a single mention of corporate tribunals-- eridani Jun 2015 #37
Right on time. n/t tazkcmo Jun 2015 #38
k & r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Jun 2015 #42
Rec'd ibewlu606 Jun 2015 #43
K & R L0oniX Jun 2015 #45
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
39. If she did or does it would go something like this, "It is important for our President to be able
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:25 AM
Jun 2015

to negotiate trade agreements for the goodness and wonderfulness of the American people. This decision will allow us to go forward and make lives much better for our hard working Americans."

rbnyc

(17,045 posts)
3. Anyone have link to roll call of vote?
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 02:36 PM
Jun 2015

Every rep who voted for TPA should have to do Cersei Lannister's walk of atonement all the way from Washington D.C. back to where they came from. I will walk behind them with the fucking bell.

rbnyc

(17,045 posts)
33. mine voted no too
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 06:16 PM
Jun 2015

He sent out a letter about his no vote that was pretty strong.

I thanked him too.



Response to rbnyc (Reply #3)

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
4. Go Bernie!
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 02:51 PM
Jun 2015

What the fuck Obama?

You send the Senate this pile of shit...and if the majority approve it...well, I will have lost all respect for you. And to think I actually worked hard, locally to get you in office.

Never again.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
36. Thank you.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 12:59 AM
Jun 2015

I feel encouraged when I see people who are willing to admit they were wrong! We are lucky because this time we have the real deal. He is that rare presidential candidate who doesn't lie. Gore was the closest thing to a truth teller I can remember before that. I think Jimmy Carter and RFK were pretty close.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
46. obama hasn't been terrible
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 06:05 PM
Jun 2015

we knew coming into it that he was a bit of a mystery, and his election would be primarily symbolic. I think he's done a better-than-average job considering. a clinton democrat, but, then again, clinton wasn't a awful president either.

of course, they are both wrong on trade and we should continue to oppose them on this issue.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
47. Generally agree.
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 10:19 PM
Jun 2015

But their neoliberalism is repugnant to me. Not just the trade deals, but Arne Duncan and his privatization philiosophy, lobbyists becoming regulators, etc. While I agree they could have been a lot worse, Bernie will be so much better. His record is incredibly strong.

Prior to Bernie, I believed in Gore and RFK. I now have some mixed feelings on Gore, but I still think he's a great man. So, I don't feel easily deceived and to me Bernie is a once in a generation type.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
48. leadership is weird
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:31 PM
Jun 2015

I think obama has some legitimate claim due to talent, etc, but a lot of the people who are running for prez seem to be doing so because were born into that class. for example the bush brothers.

anyhow, it seems strange and maybe a bit illogical to put all that hope and faith and trust into a single person.

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
8. Has Hillary released a statement about this yet?
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 02:58 PM
Jun 2015

And what EXACTLY is her position on the TPP? Not Nancy Pelosi's. What is HRCs position on this, for or against?

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
10. All you need to know about Hillary and the TPP is that
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:03 PM
Jun 2015

as Secretary of State, Hillary had a hand in helping to DRAFT the TPP. This was according to Bloomberg News in 2013 who listed it, at the time, as a major achievement for her.

She’s also taken a leading part in drafting the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the free-trade pact that would give U.S. companies a leg up on their Chinese competitors.

http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2013-01-10/hillary-clintons-business-legacy-at-the-state-department#p2
 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
11. Also, I should have pointed out
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:07 PM
Jun 2015

that Bernie issued his condemnation of this vote in less than 30 minutes after the vote was held. Hillary...crickets.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
14. Hey, it takes more than 30 minutes to get afocus group together.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:24 PM
Jun 2015

And have a wordsmith cobble together a bunch of non-committal weasel words.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
28. And to stick her finger in the wind
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:35 PM
Jun 2015

and see which way the political winds are blowing. Focus groups, advisors, and political posturing. Yeah, that's presidential.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
41. If only she'd stick her finger in the wind. She clearly knows who she supports, her people
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:31 AM
Jun 2015

most likely are advising to wait, maybe there will be a national disaster to deflect attention. And then you will hear the rhetoric. I gave an example in post #39 above.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
26. Her stance is the bill is a lemon, but we are going to have to make lemonade out of it.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:12 PM
Jun 2015

No sugar though.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
18. I hope more Americans understand why this man has called for a political revolution in this country
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:39 PM
Jun 2015

WHY would he do that after all the many years of service..WHY??

Wake the fuck up people and listen to him.


K&R

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
20. This blow against us is devastating..how we recover is up to us.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:44 PM
Jun 2015

I just don't know how strong a chance we have any longer to defeat it, bunnies..I hope we can.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
24. And the thing that really gets me is that so many Americans,
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:57 PM
Jun 2015

Democrats included, seem perfectly happy to follow TPTB into the oblivion. I don't understand how anyone can *not* support Bernie Sanders. I really, really dont.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
25. He is our chance, if not him, the problems will only get worse..so yea, I can only say
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:09 PM
Jun 2015

I agree. We need to work hard and hope all of us together can help support him and win this time...for the people.

He is not going to stay silent, neither should we.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
27. Agree with Sanders, "we need new approach that benefits working families.' Doing nothing ain't it.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:15 PM
Jun 2015

I don't think you avoid trade in this rapidly changing world, while you talk about an approach benefiting workers.

You do big trade deals, so you aren't behind the curve, and tax, and otherwise use some of, the money generated to protect, help, improve life for workers.

rbnyc

(17,045 posts)
34. Who suggested doing nothing?
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 06:18 PM
Jun 2015

Fast tracking this agreement and doing nothing aren't the only two choices.

As far as we can tell the bulk of this agreement isn't even about trade. It's about making people powerless.

rbnyc

(17,045 posts)
35. ...
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 06:28 PM
Jun 2015

TPP insiders: We promise we won't rape you, but let us just handcuff you to the bed.

The people: No, we need to renegotiate the terms of our relationship.

Hoyt: You can't just avoid being in a relationship. Let yourself be handcuffed to the bed and then try to make the best of it.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
37. More horseshit about "trade" and not a single mention of corporate tribunals--
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 01:04 AM
Jun 2015

--set over elected governments. If any of our so-called "representatives" cared about actual trade, they just would have pulled the 5 of 29 sections that relate to trade and voted to pass only those.

 

ibewlu606

(160 posts)
43. Rec'd
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 09:15 AM
Jun 2015

Here in Florida, Wasserman-Schultz voted yes on this corporate give away. It is important to remember that she is a HUGE supporter of HRC. That and Hillary's silence on TPP speaks volumes.

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