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NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:46 PM Jun 2015

House votes 218-208 to approve Fast Track

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The House votes 218-208 to approve a motion allowing for fast track Trade Promotion Authority legislation.?This TPA would allow for U.S. trade agreements entered into before July 1, 2018 to be voted up or down but not amended.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?326582-1/us-house-passes-tpa-218208&live


Ten Democrats made up the deficit needed to pass this bill.

UPDATE: Debbie Wasserman Schultz, DNC chair, was one of the Democrats voting FOR.

UPDATE: With the MSM fully occupied with Dylann Roof, it is likely that Mitch McConnell will arrange for a vote VERY fast, probably today.
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House votes 218-208 to approve Fast Track (Original Post) NorthCarolina Jun 2015 OP
So basically we're fucked. 99th_Monkey Jun 2015 #1
It happened fast because they were able to take advantage NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #2
In politics, nothing happens by accident 99th_Monkey Jun 2015 #3
Either way NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #4
Next step is this: dixiegrrrrl Jun 2015 #5
And look to get Wyden, Murray, and Bennett voted out in 2016... cascadiance Jun 2015 #17
I hope you guys on DU will keep me informed when the vote is davidpdx Jun 2015 #28
I thought it would take a week or 2 before they snuck it in FreakinDJ Jun 2015 #6
There is no way they could pass up NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #7
Oh we KNOW who the traitors are! davidpdx Jun 2015 #29
If one thinks TAA Bill passes, Wellstone ruled Jun 2015 #8
But senators need to be reminded that what they have in front of them DOES NOT INCLUDE TAA! cascadiance Jun 2015 #11
The fact that a TAA is required is more than I need to know NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #13
They should be reminded of that as well... cascadiance Jun 2015 #14
I'm afraid it's likely that far too much money has changed hands NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #15
It may be a bought deal, but they still haven't put in a bill to take away our voting process yet! cascadiance Jun 2015 #16
Watch McConnel pull a voice vote. Wellstone ruled Jun 2015 #18
TAA is not NEW, it has been used to benefit American workers for decades. Sunlei Jun 2015 #20
And this time they wanted to fund it... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #21
the federal gov has saved that much already from even one state that expanded medicare. Sunlei Jun 2015 #22
We need a petition to get DWS kicked out of leading the DNC! cascadiance Jun 2015 #9
I believe she was apointed to the position by Obama... NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #10
I think she can be voted out... cascadiance Jun 2015 #12
you really think Sen. Sanders and Mrs. Warren would ever back a D movement to take out some Sunlei Jun 2015 #23
Well, Obama "backed" removing Howard Dean to replace him with this crappy replacement... cascadiance Jun 2015 #24
Mr. Dean seems ok about his work . "I didn't do this for the spoils. I did this for the country." Sunlei Jun 2015 #25
without the part with worker protections funded, thats a couple decades old part that will expire. Sunlei Jun 2015 #19
190 Republicans voted for it. 28 Democratic Reps voted for it. UCmeNdc Jun 2015 #26
My horseshit Bluedog congressman ended up voting yes davidpdx Jun 2015 #27
 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
2. It happened fast because they were able to take advantage
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 02:05 PM
Jun 2015

of the window of opportunity provided by the Dylann Roof tragedy. The know the MSM can only handle one topic of discussion in any 24 hr period, and they take advantage of that.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
3. In politics, nothing happens by accident
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 02:11 PM
Jun 2015

In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.
~Franklin D. Roosevelt

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
5. Next step is this:
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 02:27 PM
Jun 2015

the next test comes in the Senate, where it will need the support of a dozen or so pro-trade Democrats.
They'll have to act without knowing for certain whether a second piece of legislation that will provide aid to workers who lose jobs in overseas deals, also voted down last week, will make it to the president's desk. That measure must now face a Senate vote first, before being sent back to the House

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
17. And look to get Wyden, Murray, and Bennett voted out in 2016...
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:17 PM
Jun 2015

... through primaries if they do vote for cloture and/or to pass this crap!

Make it clear that they are voting for their resignations to be heard!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
28. I hope you guys on DU will keep me informed when the vote is
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:19 AM
Jun 2015

being so far over here in Korea. I swear to god I'm going to call in to Wyden's office everyday leaving a message. We need to absolutely pound the phone lines.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
7. There is no way they could pass up
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 02:41 PM
Jun 2015

a chance for slipping it in under the radar with the MSM totally occupied by the Dylann Roof issue.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
29. Oh we KNOW who the traitors are!
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:21 AM
Jun 2015

I'm shocked that so many are from Oregon. Goddamn nearly all of them from both the House and Senate in Oregon have voted for it except Congressman DeFazio and Senator Merkley. Those guys have steel balls.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. If one thinks TAA Bill passes,
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 02:52 PM
Jun 2015

not going to happen. This TAA thing is just a piece of cover for certain Dems who might be primaried in 2016. When I first seen this POS hit,called a person who worked on the Hill,and she said,it was a done deal and watch for the Lipstick. TAA is just Lipstick. It is all about money in campaign coffers,which by the way can be kept by the Senator or Congressperson if and when they bail for office.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
11. But senators need to be reminded that what they have in front of them DOES NOT INCLUDE TAA!
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 02:55 PM
Jun 2015

like it didn't when they earlier filibustered it. We should make sure that they don't get pushed in to voting for this crap on some empty and manipulative promises. It should be clear that they should filibuster it this time and stick to their guns, even if Republicans try to link it to other legislation. It should be voted down no matter and those who bend should be threatened with primaries in 2016. Three senators (Wyden, Bennett, and Murray) are up for reelection in 2016.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
14. They should be reminded of that as well...
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:08 PM
Jun 2015

That someone even feeling this bill was needed at all is a reminder that there was some general consensus that middle class jobs were going to be lost or at least adversely affected by free trade bills enabled by TPA.

And with or without TAA, this bill is a bad idea, but especially without. And if they want to appear to be consistent in their votes and not manipulated by money this week, they should stick with the same filibuster vote that they had the first time. And people should tell Carper that he will be forced to take a hike for not even filibustering it the first time.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
15. I'm afraid it's likely that far too much money has changed hands
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:12 PM
Jun 2015

for TPP to fail. It's a bought deal.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
16. It may be a bought deal, but they still haven't put in a bill to take away our voting process yet!
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:15 PM
Jun 2015

Even though Republicans are wanting senators to be appointed like they used to be now too.

That will be on the ticket next if TPA passes.

We need to make sure that everyone is clear that those who vote for TPA are voting against democracy, and should be voted out of office as soon as possible.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
18. Watch McConnel pull a voice vote.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:18 PM
Jun 2015

Followed by a Electronic Vote and the Vote left open till the numbers are met. This is a done deal. More Lipstick.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
22. the federal gov has saved that much already from even one state that expanded medicare.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 06:22 PM
Jun 2015

700 million is nothing.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
9. We need a petition to get DWS kicked out of leading the DNC!
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 02:53 PM
Jun 2015

This is inexcusable. I think there is a way for grass roots campaigns in all of the different state Democratic organizations to do this if I remember times in the past. Though perhaps that's only just approval when a new one gets put in place. Would be good to find out if enough state organizations have votes to have her replaced if we can force her out of this position.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
10. I believe she was apointed to the position by Obama...
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 02:55 PM
Jun 2015

I'm pretty sure she's safe in her spot as long as he's in office. Especially now.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
12. I think she can be voted out...
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:03 PM
Jun 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Committee

The chairperson of the DNC (currently U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida) is elected by vote of members of the Democratic National Committee. The DNC is composed of the chairs and vice-chairs of each state Democratic Party Committee, two hundred members apportioned among the states based on population and generally elected either on the ballot by primary voters or by the State Democratic Party Committee, a number of elected officials serving in an ex-officio capacity, and a variety of representatives of major Democratic Party constituencies.


I think if you start a grass roots upward movement within PCP groups, they can put pressure on these higher ltevel chairs and vice chairs to vote her out of office or be subject to be replaced themselves.

Now is the time for everyone to start going to PCP meetings and taking over the party from the ground up. This process may take a while, but if we start now, perhaps we can have strength to force these kind of changes later when it is important for the 2016 election.

Yes, there is internal politics in many of these organizations. I've heard and witnessed some stories myself. But the bottom line is that we need to get power of numbers of those to use democratic rule to work for us. And I do believe there are already many PCPs in many places that really want what we want too. It's a matter of empowering them to help change happen.

I recall that this kind of effort helped get Howard Dean voted in as DNC chair earlier that helped him later push his 50 state strategy that helped us subsequently in taking back the House.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
23. you really think Sen. Sanders and Mrs. Warren would ever back a D movement to take out some
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 06:27 PM
Jun 2015

of the most loyal and hardworking people the party has? Who do you suggest they are replaced with?

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
24. Well, Obama "backed" removing Howard Dean to replace him with this crappy replacement...
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 06:57 PM
Jun 2015

Howard Dean would probably be better back where he was then when he helped the Democrats take back the House with a far better strategy than corporate hack DWS.

Obama started to show his hands when he named Rahmbo Emanuel to head his cabinet along with DWS to replace Dean.

I don't consider DWS as one of the "most loyal and hardworking people the party has" when she's voting AGAINST that party's constituency's future with this crappy TPA bill, along with a lot of other crappy things she's done.

And this kind of movement to vote her out by affecting who is in party chair positions can start from the ground up like it did to get Dean in to that position earlier.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
25. Mr. Dean seems ok about his work . "I didn't do this for the spoils. I did this for the country."
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 07:11 PM
Jun 2015
I'm going to go into the private sector, make a living making speeches, and do a lot of stuff on health care policy


Dean told Chris Matthews on MSNBC’s "Hardball" that "I didn't do this for the spoils. I did this for the country. I'm very happy that Barack Obama is president, and I think he's picked a great Cabinet. And I'm pretty happy. I wouldn't trade my position for any other position right now. I'm going to go into the private sector, make a living making speeches, and do a lot of stuff on health care policy."

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
26. 190 Republicans voted for it. 28 Democratic Reps voted for it.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 07:16 PM
Jun 2015

Why does the GOP not have to pay for this?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
27. My horseshit Bluedog congressman ended up voting yes
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 06:55 AM
Jun 2015

WTF! He was a solid no the last time around. It's time to primary these sons of a bitches. I hated him before, but now I'm pissed.

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