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Divernan

(15,480 posts)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 06:18 PM Jun 2015

OMG! DNC using picture of Bernie to solicit funds!

The ad popped up on my screen when I was checking out a fracking article. It has a photo of Bernie, with another photo of Hillary slightly behind him. The wording includes the incredible statement, "send a progressive like Hillary or Bernie to the Oval Office."

I'd say they're taking Bernie and the large number of people who have donated to his campaign in such a short time quite seriously! And what a stretch to promote Hillary as a progressive.

Trying to siphon off funds that would be donated to Bernie. I sincerely trust that none of Bernie's supporters on DU are gullible enough to send funds to the Democratic National committee. I stopped doing that years ago - always give directly to candidates at federal, state and local level.

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on edit: this was the link on which the ad appeared: http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/08/nuns-bluegrass-pipeline-loretto?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+motherjones%2Fmain+%28MotherJones.com+Main+Article+Feed%29
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OMG! DNC using picture of Bernie to solicit funds! (Original Post) Divernan Jun 2015 OP
Bait & Steal orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #1
Time for an extra donation to Bernies campaign. Autumn Jun 2015 #2
Excellent idea MissDeeds Jun 2015 #4
+ 1000 !!! orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #8
Great idea. mother earth Jun 2015 #27
Excellent idea! K&R nt TBF Jun 2015 #31
You want to own Move-on and the DNC huh? upaloopa Jun 2015 #3
And they don't own me MissDeeds Jun 2015 #5
No but we can let the DNC know we will donate to Bernie and not them Autumn Jun 2015 #6
Especially when they are planning to limit debates, and we all know who that helps. cui bono Jun 2015 #13
The DNC is past and fading into irrelevancy. Autumn Jun 2015 #15
Find another thread to post your faux quotes & suppositions, pretty please! Divernan Jun 2015 #7
You mean PLOY nice, Usurping Funds isn't progressive, orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #9
Here's MoveOn's message to Hillary Divernan Jun 2015 #11
Why so hostile? cui bono Jun 2015 #12
Reminds me of a maxim from my trial lawyer years. Divernan Jun 2015 #16
Hillary's History w/ the DNC - it ain't pretty! Divernan Jun 2015 #14
+ 1000 !!! orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #20
Attempt to gain favor by association. NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #17
+ 1000 !!! orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #18
K&R! stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #19
I''ll never understand why professed Democrats on a Democratic website are so opposed to the FSogol Jun 2015 #21
The perptually disgruntled will always find a reason to be displeased. JoePhilly Jun 2015 #24
I suppose. I want the DNC to raise so much money that'll look like this: FSogol Jun 2015 #25
LOL!! JoePhilly Jun 2015 #26
+1 Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #29
Since he is a Democrat, what exactly is the problem? hack89 Jun 2015 #22
Why do I get the feeling this is a heads I win, tails you lose situation? Nitram Jun 2015 #23
K & R for an extremely timely, informative OP...now is the time to donate to Bernie Sanders, like mother earth Jun 2015 #28
Bernie could have avoided any negative association by running under his Socialist banner. He.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #30
I will take that as a concession Kalidurga Jun 2015 #32
Also Clinton, O'Malley and Chaffee... brooklynite Jun 2015 #33
so what you're saying is that Bernie and his supporters aren't interested in building geek tragedy Jun 2015 #34
Fundraising assistance flouts DNC's own presidential primary neutrality rules. Divernan Jun 2015 #35
No way in hell Bernie supports a "stronger DNC" as it currently operates. Divernan Jun 2015 #36
You do not speak for Bernie. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #39
"DNC uses Bernie Sanders to hit new low in sleazy, misleading grab for $$$" Divernan Jun 2015 #37
So Bernie wants the DNC to lay off all of its employees and cease operating? geek tragedy Jun 2015 #38
Who RU replying to? I never said any of that! Get a grip! Divernan Jun 2015 #42
You are saying that raising money for the DNC is something geek tragedy Jun 2015 #44
You continue to make up quotes while ducking and dodging challenges for links Divernan Jun 2015 #45
OMG! DNC using picture of Chafee to solicit funds! brooklynite Jun 2015 #40
OMG! DNC using picture of O'Malley to solicit funds! brooklynite Jun 2015 #41
Linkie-poos, sweetie Pie? Divernan Jun 2015 #43
UP on their Twitter feed brooklynite Jun 2015 #46

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
2. Time for an extra donation to Bernies campaign.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 06:21 PM
Jun 2015

And maybe I'll send a note to the DNC thanking them for a reminder.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
4. Excellent idea
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 06:28 PM
Jun 2015

I've sent the DNC a few heated notes in the past, looks like another one is in order. And Bernie is due for another donation from me.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. You want to own Move-on and the DNC huh?
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 06:25 PM
Jun 2015

I give to both and I am a member of Move-on. I support Hillary.
You don't own the word progressive and you won't own Move-on or the DNC.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
15. The DNC is past and fading into irrelevancy.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 07:03 PM
Jun 2015

It's always best to donate to the candidate that fits your values and supports your issues. I see no reason for my money to go to blue dogs who don't support me. Their idea on the debates is disgusting.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
7. Find another thread to post your faux quotes & suppositions, pretty please!
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 06:31 PM
Jun 2015

Obviously, I never said what you attributed to me. Now play nice!

And linking MoveOn.org to the DNC is even more preposterous than calling HRC a progressive. Actually, I've supported MoveOn.org for many years. They've done some great pieces on Bernie.

http://front.moveon.org/tag/bernie-sanders/#.VW4vslKnaDE

Bernie Sanders
A Republican Blames A 'Global Warming Hoax' On MoveOn, But Bernie Sanders Isn't Having It

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Bernie Sanders Reveals The Truth About The Deficit

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Bernie Sanders On The Devastating Effects Of The Farm Bill

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Citizens United explained like only Bernie can.

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A powerful Bernie Sanders speech, illustrated via melting ice sculpture. Watch:

Bernie Sanders Slays The GOP ''Debt'' Monster With 5 Minutes Of Pure Common Sense

Response to upaloopa (Reply #3)

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
11. Here's MoveOn's message to Hillary
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 06:47 PM
Jun 2015


http://front.moveon.org/moveon-reacts-to-hillary-clintons-comments/#.VW4yJlKnaDE
MoveOn Reacts to Hillary Clinton's Comments
By Brian Stewart. Tuesday, August 12 2014

Statement from Ilya Sheyman, Executive Director of MoveOn Political Action, in response to reported comments from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton:

“Secretary Clinton, and any other person thinking about seeking the Democratic nomination in 2016, should think long and hard before embracing the same policies advocated by right-wing war hawks that got America into Iraq in the first place and helped set the stage for Iraq’s troubles today. These hawkish policy stances are also threatening to undermine the peaceful international resolution of Iran’s nuclear program.

Voters elected President Obama in 2008 to bring the war in Iraq to an end. MoveOn members will continue to stand with elected officials who oppose military escalation that could put us back on a path to endless war.”

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
16. Reminds me of a maxim from my trial lawyer years.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 07:06 PM
Jun 2015

The Rule Of Law: 1. If The Facts Are Against You, Argue The Law.

2. If the law is against you, argue the facts.

3. If the facts AND and the law are against you, yell like hell and call the other lawyer names!

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
14. Hillary's History w/ the DNC - it ain't pretty!
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 07:01 PM
Jun 2015

Thank you, history and the web - the truth shall set us free!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/15/us/politics/15donate.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&ref=politics&adxnnlx=1205594133-dqwJKQD5QfyPdnTN623rfA&
Delegate Battles Snarl Democrats in Two States

By MICHAEL LUO and JOHN M. BRODER
Published: March 15, 2008

Democrats in Michigan and Florida struggled Friday to resolve the impasse over their disputed January primaries, coming up with a plan to hold a June primary in Michigan while remaining deadlocked in Florida.

Reflecting how tense the situation has become, influential fund-raisers for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton have stepped up their behind-the-scenes pressure on national party leaders to resolve the matter, with some even threatening to withhold their donations to the Democratic National Committee unless it seats the delegates from the two states or holds new primaries there.

Pushing to seat the Florida delegates, at least one top Clinton fund-raiser, Paul Cejas, a Miami businessman who has given the Democratic National Committee $63,500 since 2003, has demanded Democratic officials return his 2007 contribution of $28,500, which they have agreed to do. “If you’re not going to count my vote, I’m not going to give you my money,” said Mr. Cejas, who was the United States ambassador to Belgium from 1998 to 2001.

Christopher Korge, a Florida real estate developer who is another top fund-raiser for Mrs. Clinton, held an event last year in his home that brought in about $140,000 for the national party, which was set aside in a special account for the general election battle in Florida. But he told committee officials this week that if Florida’s delegate conundrum was not settled satisfactorily he would be asking for the money back. “If we do not resolve this issue,” Mr. Korge said, “I think it’s safe to say there will be a request for a return of $140,000.”

http://americablog.com/2008/03/hillary-urging-donors-to-blackmail-dnc-into-stealing-the-election-for-her.html
Written by: John Aravosis is the former editor of AMERICAblog, which he founded in 2004. He has a joint law degree (JD) and masters in Foreign Service from Georgetown (1989); and worked in the US Senate, World Bank, Children's Defense Fund, and as a stringer for the Economist.

Hillary urging donors to blackmail DNC into stealing the election for her
3/15/08 1:12pm by John Aravosis
I’m really getting sick of Hillary’s crap. Fighting tough is welcome. Fighting dirty is not. I liked Hillary. Joe and I reached out to her campaign to help them two years ago. Now, I’m starting to wonder if even a small portion of the past vilification of the Clintons wasn’t justified. I mean, urging your donors, for all intents and purposes, to blackmail the Democratic party? In essence, telling your donors that if you can’t be the nominee then the Democrats should lose the election? (And that’s exactly what’s happening. Hillary wants the DNC to seat the delegates from the non-election that happened in Florida after the state willfully violated DNC rules, knowing full well what would happen if they did. Now Hillary wants all those delegates seated, from the non-election, so she can steal the election from Obama). Is it any wonder that 25% of Hillary’s supporters say they won’t support Obama in the general election? Hillary is the one telling them that they shouldn’t support Obama, that they shouldn’t support their own party. Howard Dean should tell Hillary Lieberman stop her crap, now, or resign from the Democratic party. Contrary to Her Majesty’s thinking, there are other Democrats worthy of leading our country. Read more about Hillary’s latest attempt to steal the election, from the NYT.
 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
17. Attempt to gain favor by association.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 07:20 PM
Jun 2015

Big deal, the debates and the campaigns will shake the wheat from the chaff.

FSogol

(45,524 posts)
21. I''ll never understand why professed Democrats on a Democratic website are so opposed to the
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 12:44 PM
Jun 2015

Democratic Party trying to raise funds. I don't get it.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
22. Since he is a Democrat, what exactly is the problem?
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 12:49 PM
Jun 2015

one would expect all Democratic candidates to help the DNC raise money.

Nitram

(22,861 posts)
23. Why do I get the feeling this is a heads I win, tails you lose situation?
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 12:59 PM
Jun 2015

The Democratic establishment is either "ignoring" Bernie or "using" him. Perhaps it's not that dire, folks. I don't have a dog in this fight yet, but the attacks on Hillary by Bernie supporters, and the constant complaining about Bernie's uphill battle are wearing thin. Please support the Democratic candidate you prefer, and let the GOP attack the one you don't, if you must. Let's not do their job for them.

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
28. K & R for an extremely timely, informative OP...now is the time to donate to Bernie Sanders, like
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 01:55 PM
Jun 2015

Autumn suggests. Brilliant idea.



Limiting debates is not good for the American people.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democrats-debate-debates/story?id=30846345

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
30. Bernie could have avoided any negative association by running under his Socialist banner. He....
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 02:05 PM
Jun 2015

knew that wouldn't fly, so he decided to run as a "Democrat" to take advantage of the infrastructure built by others. Quite frankly, I wish they had told him to take a hike. I agree with the socialists who he has pissed off, he should not join the Democratic Party. If he's been a so-called Independent all this time, I think it's fake.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
34. so what you're saying is that Bernie and his supporters aren't interested in building
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:31 PM
Jun 2015

a stronger DNC?

As a Bernie supporter, I have to say that's not only false, but a really foolish argument to make when you're trying to get him elected as the party's nominee.

Can't have it both ways.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
35. Fundraising assistance flouts DNC's own presidential primary neutrality rules.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 09:12 PM
Jun 2015

‘Impartial’ DNC finance chief helps Hillary Clinton
DNC rules, designed to ensure all candidates get a fair shake in presidential primaries, state: “The Chairperson shall be responsible for ensuring that the national officers and staff of the Democratic National Committee maintain impartiality and even-handedness during the Democratic Party Presidential nominating process.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/impartial-dnc-finance-chief-helps-hillary-clinton-118558.html#ixzz3c3EIUaXK

And don't try to duck and dodge the subject matter by trashing Politico or its reporter of this story as a source.

If in fact you ARE a Sanders supporter, you will just love this piece Ben Schreckinger/Politico did on Bernie:

In 1988, toward the end of Sanders’ four-term tenure — long after a local Democratic leader predicted the movement that swept Sanders into office would be gone in a decade — the U.S. Conference of Mayors named Burlington the most livable city in the country with a population of under 100,000 (in a tie). Then Sanders’ director of community and economic development succeeded him in the mayor’s office and Inc. Magazine named Burlington the best city in the Northeast for a growing business.

And what about the guy who told UPI “Everyone’s scared” when the Lenin of Lake Champlain first stormed to power in 1981? That was the state’s then-Democratic Party chairman, Mark Kaplan. Today, he’s on board with a socialist in the White House.

“I actually donated to him,” said Kaplan. “I’m kind of excited about it.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/how-bernie-sanderss-radical-ideas-entered-the-municipal-mainstream-118447.html#ixzz3c3FLJT4Z

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
36. No way in hell Bernie supports a "stronger DNC" as it currently operates.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 09:24 PM
Jun 2015

It would be fair to state that all true progressive Democrats, including "Bernie and his supporters" would like to see the augean stable known as Debbie Wasserman's DNC swept clean of it's wheeling/dealing - but pray tell, do tell us how sending money to the pro-Clinton DNC during the primary season would benefit Sanders one red cent!

And/or do provide any, I repeat ANY link quoting Bernie as pro DNC.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=410036

Now as to Hillary and her supporters, it's a different story.
Hillary's History w/ the DNC - it ain't pretty!

Thank you, history and the web - the truth shall set us free!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/15/us/politics/15donate.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&ref=politics&adxnnlx=1205594133-dqwJKQD5QfyPdnTN623rfA&
Delegate Battles Snarl Democrats in Two States

By MICHAEL LUO and JOHN M. BRODER
Published: March 15, 2008

Democrats in Michigan and Florida struggled Friday to resolve the impasse over their disputed January primaries, coming up with a plan to hold a June primary in Michigan while remaining deadlocked in Florida.

Reflecting how tense the situation has become, influential fund-raisers for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton have stepped up their behind-the-scenes pressure on national party leaders to resolve the matter, with some even threatening to withhold their donations to the Democratic National Committee unless it seats the delegates from the two states or holds new primaries there.

Pushing to seat the Florida delegates, at least one top Clinton fund-raiser, Paul Cejas, a Miami businessman who has given the Democratic National Committee $63,500 since 2003, has demanded Democratic officials return his 2007 contribution of $28,500, which they have agreed to do. “If you’re not going to count my vote, I’m not going to give you my money,” said Mr. Cejas, who was the United States ambassador to Belgium from 1998 to 2001.

Christopher Korge, a Florida real estate developer who is another top fund-raiser for Mrs. Clinton, held an event last year in his home that brought in about $140,000 for the national party, which was set aside in a special account for the general election battle in Florida. But he told committee officials this week that if Florida’s delegate conundrum was not settled satisfactorily he would be asking for the money back. “If we do not resolve this issue,” Mr. Korge said, “I think it’s safe to say there will be a request for a return of $140,000.”

http://americablog.com/2008/03/hillary-urging-donors-to-blackmail-dnc-into-stealing-the-election-for-her.html

Christopher Korge, a Florida real estate developer who is another top fund-raiser for Mrs. Clinton, held an event last year in his home that brought in about $140,000 for the national party, which was set aside in a special account for the general election battle in Florida. But he told committee officials this week that if Florida’s delegate conundrum was not settled satisfactorily he would be asking for the money back. “If we do not resolve this issue,” Mr. Korge said, “I think it’s safe to say there will be a request for a return of $140,000.”

http://americablog.com/2008/03/hillary-urging-donors-to-blackmail-dnc-into-stealing-the-election-for-her.html
Written by: John Aravosis is the former editor of AMERICAblog, which he founded in 2004. He has a joint law degree (JD) and masters in Foreign Service from Georgetown (1989); and worked in the US Senate, World Bank, Children's Defense Fund, and as a stringer for the Economist.

Hillary urging donors to blackmail DNC into stealing the election for her
3/15/08 1:12pm by John Aravosis
I’m really getting sick of Hillary’s crap. Fighting tough is welcome. Fighting dirty is not. I liked Hillary. Joe and I reached out to her campaign to help them two years ago. Now, I’m starting to wonder if even a small portion of the past vilification of the Clintons wasn’t justified. I mean, urging your donors, for all intents and purposes, to blackmail the Democratic party? In essence, telling your donors that if you can’t be the nominee then the Democrats should lose the election? (And that’s exactly what’s happening. Hillary wants the DNC to seat the delegates from the non-election that happened in Florida after the state willfully violated DNC rules, knowing full well what would happen if they did. Now Hillary wants all those delegates seated, from the non-election, so she can steal the election from Obama). Is it any wonder that 25% of Hillary’s supporters say they won’t support Obama in the general election? Hillary is the one telling them that they shouldn’t support Obama, that they shouldn’t support their own party. Howard Dean should tell Hillary Lieberman stop her crap, now, or resign from the Democratic party. Contrary to Her Majesty’s thinking, there are other Democrats worthy of leading our country. Read more about Hillary’s latest attempt to steal the election, from the NYT.
Written by: John Aravosis is the former editor of AMERICAblog, which he founded in 2004. He has a joint law degree (JD) and masters in Foreign Service from Georgetown (1989); and worked in the US Senate,

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
39. You do not speak for Bernie.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 10:05 PM
Jun 2015

His goal is not the destruction of the Democratic Party.

If it were, he would be a manifestly unfit candidate.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
37. "DNC uses Bernie Sanders to hit new low in sleazy, misleading grab for $$$"
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 09:43 PM
Jun 2015

DNC uses Bernie Sanders to hit new low in sleazy, misleading grab for $$$$
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/01/1381733/-DNC-uses-Bernie-Sanders-to-hit-new-low-in-sleazy-misleading-request-for#

I was greeted by an email this morning that is copied below, exactly as it appeared in my inbox, including the blaring typography and the large chunk of white space towards the bottom, requiring that you scroll down to find the fine print. Does anyone believe that even one penny of the $$$$ raised by this grab for cash by the DNC will go to Bernie's campaign?

But SURELY, this must have been done with Bernie's blessing, right?

Of course not. If you're not in a rush and you have your reading glasses on and scroll down to find and read the fine print at the bottom of the email or the box at the bottom of the web page, you'll see that this was "not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee". But the DNC is clearly counting on the fact that many people will be so thrilled that Bernie is running, that they will quickly send off a contribution without bothering to consider the fine print. We're all so used to the boilerplate that it's very easy to ignore it.

This is especially disgusting, given that one of Bernie's passions and major goals in running for the presidency is to work to get the money out of politics. (Notice that the DNC chose not to include this goal in the list of his priorities in the email.)


Some interesting comments to the above article:

"If the DNC was at all serious about helping Bernie,they would have linked to Bernie's campaign website."
and

"We get pictures of Bernie Sanders to deceptively solicit funds to be spent on people who will work diligently to undermine Bernie Sanders. I guess that's payback for Bernie horning in on their neatly-laid-out plans for a coronation of the status quo candidates they prefer. Republican gerrymandering works out awfully well for certain key people who care more about access and favors than good governance or actually winning elections to improve the lives of Americans."
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
38. So Bernie wants the DNC to lay off all of its employees and cease operating?
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 10:04 PM
Jun 2015

Or is that only your goal?


Because, you know, without any of that icky, dirty money, the DNC wouldn't exist. It's GOTV efforts would cease. Etc etc etc.

I reject the assumption that one must hate the Democratic Party to support Bernie Sanders.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
44. You are saying that raising money for the DNC is something
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 12:31 AM
Jun 2015

that is inconsistent with his candidacy.

I reject that formulation. He is running to be leader of the Democratic Party. He is not running to destroy it.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
45. You continue to make up quotes while ducking and dodging challenges for links
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 12:34 AM
Jun 2015

to your claims. And obviously the DNC raising money for Hillary or any other Democratic primary candidates IS inconsistent with his candidacy.

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