A rising insurrection against Obama

[mahatmakanejeeves]

A rising insurrection against Obama

By Colbert I. King April 3 at 6:25 PM

It’s a scary thought, but here it is: If some red states were to openly defy the authority of President Obama in the exercise of his constitutional duties, would today’s Republican Congress side with him? Or would they honor the insurrection?

I wish it could be said with confidence that the legislative branch would oppose a rebellion against the executive branch of government. But I’m not so sure.

Last month, the Republican-led Arizona House of Representatives passed, on a 36-to-24 party-line vote, a bill sponsored by tea party Rep. Bob Thorpe (R-Flagstaff) that “prohibits this state or any of its political subdivisions from using any personnel or financial resources to enforce, administer or cooperate with an executive order issued by the President of the U.S. that has not been affirmed by a vote of Congress and signed into law as prescribed by the U.S. Constitution.”

If adopted by the Arizona Senate and signed into law, executive orders issued by the president would have no force or effect in that state. What’s more, the Arizona House has passed a number of other bills aimed at nullifying policies, rules and regulations of the Obama administration that have not been approved by Congress.

[Sinistrous]

1. Didn't George Wallace try something along these lines a several years ago?

I seem to remember he ran into a bit of resistance to his posturing.

[2naSalit]

2. That is totally

what is conspiratorially going on in the north and central Rocky Mountain states. See it going on in the legislatures as we speak.

Problem for them is that federal law trumps state and local laws in this country and these guys are so wrapped up in their hatred and bigotry that any ploy that fucks up the country as punishment for electing him twice. The only remedy is ugly and I fear too many citizens are apathetic about it all these days. They can't seem to find efficacy so they give up because it takes too much time to get enough info to make a real choice... which is part of what the bad guys are banking on and why education is dying.

The only way they can win is to cheat and that's what they plan on from every possible angle non-stop until they achieve whatever sick goal they are after.

[Pakid]

3. The Republican party is out of control

To them all that matters is what they want and to hell with the rest of us. Sit down and shut up if you won't kiss are ass is the new motto of todays party of hate. Given the chance they will end everything that is good about America and in it place will be a nation where it's citizens get to live in hell! Everything will be taken from us and given to our new masters the dark times will fall upon America and it will take a long time (if we ever get back the power) to undo the damage that these idiots will do!

[blkmusclmachine]

4. https://thatsmyphilosophy.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/7-mountains.jpg

[salib]

5. At least the bill in Arizona does not seem so insurrectionist

As it does difficult and perhaps passive aggressive.

My understanding is that an executive order by the President is only binding on the Executive Branch. Thus, with the text:

“prohibits this state or any of its political subdivisions from using any personnel or financial resources to enforce, administer or cooperate with an executive order issued by the President of the U.S. that has not been affirmed by a vote of Congress and signed into law as prescribed by the U.S. Constitution.”

The language is actually fairly consistent, except that the "cooperate" part could lead to rather passive aggressive responses which could be interfering with the Federal Gov't. And, yes, in that case the State has no grounds for doing so.

I believe we need to be careful here. Simply because federal law may "trump" local (and state) law, does not mean that the states are "subservient to" the federal gov't, or its executive. We really should not be subscribing to notions that simply lead to arguments that something then becomes "seditious" or "insubordinate". That is just the authoritarians playbook. We can and must do better.