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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 02:40 PM Feb 2015

Jeb’s clueless Bush privilege: The arrogant dynasty debacle he won’t get away with - By Joan Walsh

He thinks he can avoid weighing in on his brother’s wars while trashing Obama’s foreign policy. Can it work?

JOAN WALSH


There’s something quaint about the way Jeb Bush is trying to get around critiquing or endorsing his big brother’s disastrous presidency, especially when it comes to the unpopular wars President George W. Bush began and mishandled. It’s almost as if the commoners are trying to get him to gossip about family matters, and voters will understand if he’s too much of a gentleman to do so.

Asked by the Washington Post’s Philip Rucker whether his foreign policy speech next week would deal with his brother’s wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Bush wouldn’t answer:

“I won’t talk about the past. I’ll talk about the future. If I’m in the process of considering the possibility of running, it’s not about re-litigating anything in the past. It’s about trying to create a set of ideas and principles that will help us move forward.”

Does Bush really think he’s going to get away with not talking about his brother’s wars – or his tax policies or the surplus he spent into a deficit or the economy that cratered on his watch? And how will the Florida governor square the fact that he rips President Obama regularly – in 2013 he called him a “complete and utter failure” – with his unwillingness to weigh in on the presidency that preceded Obama’s?

While Bush is talking about creating “a set of ideas and principles” for his foreign policy, I hope journalists remember that he was one of just 25 signatories to the original “statement of principles” issued by the hawkish Project for a New American Century — alongside Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Scooter Libby, Elliott Abrams, Norman Podhoretz, Frank Gaffney and other card-carrying neocons. He didn’t sign subsequent PNAC declarations, but as a first-term Florida governor and son of the last president, Bush’s name stood out on that founding document.

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Jeb’s clueless Bush privilege: The arrogant dynasty debacle he won’t get away with - By Joan Walsh (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2015 OP
How about "Read my lips. No new taxes." That one went well. Not. libdem4life Feb 2015 #1
“I won’t talk about the past. I’ll talk about the future." merrily Feb 2015 #2
Why does criticizing Jeb require Obama bashing? FSogol Feb 2015 #4
A copy and paste of a NY Times article containing direct quotes is "Obama bashing?" merrily Feb 2015 #5
Not bashing, just apples and oranges. Darb Feb 2015 #17
Baloney. merrily Feb 2015 #18
Why does criticizing Jeb require the bashing of Democrats? FSogol Feb 2015 #6
See Reply 5. (Stalking me much?) nt merrily Feb 2015 #7
Replying to you 3 times* in two threads is stalking? Plus you never answered the question. FSogol Feb 2015 #8
At least as much as pasting a NY Times article is "bashing." And I did answer the question, even merrily Feb 2015 #11
Hey Guy's. Wellstone ruled Feb 2015 #3
Quaint; No, but Yes, that curious privilege of polynomial Feb 2015 #9
Two Republican front-runners for 2016. Both have been absolute disasters for their states!!!!! LongTomH Feb 2015 #10
Is PNAC still online? I sure hope so--complete with signature page. Hekate Feb 2015 #12
"I wouldn't put ANYTHING past this stupid country!" - Bill Maher charles d Feb 2015 #13
Dubya never had to answer for the faked up intelligence used to justify the Iraq War. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #14
He gets his arrogance from his mother! LibGranny Feb 2015 #15
Love this: pablo_marmol Feb 2015 #16
"I won’t talk about the past. I’ll talk about the future." The past is the future numnuts. yellowcanine Feb 2015 #19

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. “I won’t talk about the past. I’ll talk about the future."
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 02:50 PM
Feb 2015

Hmmm. That has a familiar ring. Where have I heard something like that about Bushco before? Let me think.

Mr. Obama added that he also had “a belief that we need to look forward as opposed to looking backwards.”

“And part of my job,” he continued, “is to make sure that, for example, at the C.I.A., you’ve got extraordinarily talented people who are working very hard to keep Americans safe. I don’t want them to suddenly feel like they’ve got spend their all their time looking over their shoulders.”

The Bush administration has authorized interrogation tactics like waterboarding that critics say skirted federal laws and international treaties, and domestic wiretapping without warrants. But the details of those programs have never been made public, and administration officials have said their actions were legal under a president’s wartime powers.

There was no immediate reaction from Capitol Hill, where there has been a growing sense that Mr. Obama was not inclined to pursue these matters. In resisting pressure for a wider inquiry, he risks the ire of influential Democratic lawmakers on Congressional judiciary and intelligence committees and core constituencies who hoped his election would cast a spotlight on President Bush’s antiterror efforts.



http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/12/us/politics/12inquire.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. A copy and paste of a NY Times article containing direct quotes is "Obama bashing?"
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 03:44 PM
Feb 2015

Maybe you need a dictionary?

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
17. Not bashing, just apples and oranges.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 08:05 AM
Feb 2015

Obama was President elect and was moving forward, Bush is running for President and wants to dodge questions by saying he wants to move forward.

Comparing the two is a big fat stretch, so I do not doubt that that is why the poster called it bashing, because you reached to far to make a dishonest comparison.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
18. Baloney.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:49 PM
Feb 2015

Nothing about that post is dishonest.

You need to be careful of accusations like that.

FSogol

(45,525 posts)
8. Replying to you 3 times* in two threads is stalking? Plus you never answered the question.
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 04:05 PM
Feb 2015

Jeb is scummy enough to bash without ever bringing up various Democrats. Not sure why bashing Jeb would require anyone to defend him by making a false equivalency involving HRC or the Pres.


* Oops, now it is 4.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
11. At least as much as pasting a NY Times article is "bashing." And I did answer the question, even
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 05:24 PM
Feb 2015

though I considered it a dishonest and substance-free one.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Hey Guy's.
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 03:04 PM
Feb 2015

We are seeing the biggest of the big money campaigns ever. With all of the so called M$M in the hands of a few Mega Wealthy people,and,with money coming from the Koch Bros.as well as the Casino owners Katz,Adelson,and Wynn,it's off to the races. Noticed the major increase of false equivalency and strawman stories hitting the airwaves as well as the print media. Social Media is getting smoked with fake stories and that is the new media of choice.

Propaganda sells and we are getting slammed and the Rethugs are pulling out all the stops to win in 2016. Appears to be another Bush 2000 theft coming.

polynomial

(750 posts)
9. Quaint; No, but Yes, that curious privilege of
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 04:34 PM
Feb 2015

Quaint; No, but Yes, that curious privilege of the arrogant crime dynasty with that natural air of corporate Nazi secret record keeping all the way back to Prescott Bush.

Yep, all enhanced by his brother, George W. Bush in the Booze Allen Hamilton profiling Americans that are ignorant just waiting to snap, using a personal data base to match behavior.

The best part is laundering in the money you want in mainstream media commercial advertising, or breaking news through the cash cow money news media.

Is what is, is very close friends with Isis, or if you like Al Qaeda, a Bin Laden is and has been business partners with the Bin Laden family making transformation with new modern hooded mercenaries that need your head.

Sometimes I think they need these Bush people for Jihad to exist.

Sure to be on in the breaking news theater displaying head decapitations with the Bush plan to stop them.

All the while the right wing country western singers begging for sixty five cents a day in American legion advertisements on cable to prevent American service man from committing suicide because of post-traumatic stress.

Much of the time just after Rudy Giuliani makes his pitch for life lock and identity theft. Oh those 911 files are everywhere. America is going to have to abandon the social security system and invent a Da Vinci Code for everyone.

Was, has been, and will be dedicated to the sinister war profiteering fossil fuel world extremist looking for those seventy five virgins in the afterlife.

Now every American is told about the Clinton fatigue but so far its two to one. One Clinton presidency and two Bush trillion dollar swindles.

One Clinton to two Bush’s in post-traumatic stress game leading Americans into an ancient religious warring perversion called Jihad fine-tuned with Arab oil, and the slogging oil sludge, and rail road infrastructure that is cracking up with outdated technology.

That is the latest IED Al Qaeda game, let Americans blow each other up profiteering in oil. LOL

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
10. Two Republican front-runners for 2016. Both have been absolute disasters for their states!!!!!
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 05:02 PM
Feb 2015

The only thing they have going for them are the Koch Bros. millions, and that scares me shitless!!!!!!

 

charles d

(99 posts)
13. "I wouldn't put ANYTHING past this stupid country!" - Bill Maher
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 07:24 AM
Feb 2015

He was talking about Palin at the time. Jeb is a "kinder, gentler" version of the Loon from Wasilla. Don't be surprised if fools are fooled!

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
14. Dubya never had to answer for the faked up intelligence used to justify the Iraq War.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:16 AM
Feb 2015

He also never had to answer for the obvious war crime of torture. Hell, the spoiled brat didn't have to answer for at least one stolen presidential election.

Essentially the right wing media has excused Dubya for everything or they pretend it never happened.

Because of a carefully crafted official narrative it is entirely possible that Jeb could become the next president.

That is why looking forward was such an egregious sin.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
16. Love this:
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 01:51 AM
Feb 2015

The fact is, I agree that Bush shouldn’t have to answer for his brother’s mistakes – because he probably shouldn’t be running for president.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
19. "I won’t talk about the past. I’ll talk about the future." The past is the future numnuts.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 03:40 PM
Feb 2015

Last I looked we were still in Iraq and Afghanistan, one way or the other.

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