2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumJeb’s clueless Bush privilege: The arrogant dynasty debacle he won’t get away with - By Joan Walsh
He thinks he can avoid weighing in on his brothers wars while trashing Obamas foreign policy. Can it work?JOAN WALSH
Theres something quaint about the way Jeb Bush is trying to get around critiquing or endorsing his big brothers disastrous presidency, especially when it comes to the unpopular wars President George W. Bush began and mishandled. Its almost as if the commoners are trying to get him to gossip about family matters, and voters will understand if hes too much of a gentleman to do so.
Asked by the Washington Posts Philip Rucker whether his foreign policy speech next week would deal with his brothers wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Bush wouldnt answer:
I wont talk about the past. Ill talk about the future. If Im in the process of considering the possibility of running, its not about re-litigating anything in the past. Its about trying to create a set of ideas and principles that will help us move forward.
Does Bush really think hes going to get away with not talking about his brothers wars or his tax policies or the surplus he spent into a deficit or the economy that cratered on his watch? And how will the Florida governor square the fact that he rips President Obama regularly in 2013 he called him a complete and utter failure with his unwillingness to weigh in on the presidency that preceded Obamas?
While Bush is talking about creating a set of ideas and principles for his foreign policy, I hope journalists remember that he was one of just 25 signatories to the original statement of principles issued by the hawkish Project for a New American Century alongside Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Scooter Libby, Elliott Abrams, Norman Podhoretz, Frank Gaffney and other card-carrying neocons. He didnt sign subsequent PNAC declarations, but as a first-term Florida governor and son of the last president, Bushs name stood out on that founding document.
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http://www.salon.com/2015/02/17/jebs_clueless_bush_privilege_the_arrogant_dynasty_debacle_he_wont_get_away_with/
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Hmmm. That has a familiar ring. Where have I heard something like that about Bushco before? Let me think.
Mr. Obama added that he also had a belief that we need to look forward as opposed to looking backwards.
And part of my job, he continued, is to make sure that, for example, at the C.I.A., youve got extraordinarily talented people who are working very hard to keep Americans safe. I dont want them to suddenly feel like theyve got spend their all their time looking over their shoulders.
The Bush administration has authorized interrogation tactics like waterboarding that critics say skirted federal laws and international treaties, and domestic wiretapping without warrants. But the details of those programs have never been made public, and administration officials have said their actions were legal under a presidents wartime powers.
There was no immediate reaction from Capitol Hill, where there has been a growing sense that Mr. Obama was not inclined to pursue these matters. In resisting pressure for a wider inquiry, he risks the ire of influential Democratic lawmakers on Congressional judiciary and intelligence committees and core constituencies who hoped his election would cast a spotlight on President Bushs antiterror efforts.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/12/us/politics/12inquire.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
FSogol
(45,525 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Maybe you need a dictionary?
Darb
(2,807 posts)Obama was President elect and was moving forward, Bush is running for President and wants to dodge questions by saying he wants to move forward.
Comparing the two is a big fat stretch, so I do not doubt that that is why the poster called it bashing, because you reached to far to make a dishonest comparison.
Nothing about that post is dishonest.
You need to be careful of accusations like that.
FSogol
(45,525 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)FSogol
(45,525 posts)Jeb is scummy enough to bash without ever bringing up various Democrats. Not sure why bashing Jeb would require anyone to defend him by making a false equivalency involving HRC or the Pres.
* Oops, now it is 4.
merrily
(45,251 posts)though I considered it a dishonest and substance-free one.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)We are seeing the biggest of the big money campaigns ever. With all of the so called M$M in the hands of a few Mega Wealthy people,and,with money coming from the Koch Bros.as well as the Casino owners Katz,Adelson,and Wynn,it's off to the races. Noticed the major increase of false equivalency and strawman stories hitting the airwaves as well as the print media. Social Media is getting smoked with fake stories and that is the new media of choice.
Propaganda sells and we are getting slammed and the Rethugs are pulling out all the stops to win in 2016. Appears to be another Bush 2000 theft coming.
polynomial
(750 posts)Quaint; No, but Yes, that curious privilege of the arrogant crime dynasty with that natural air of corporate Nazi secret record keeping all the way back to Prescott Bush.
Yep, all enhanced by his brother, George W. Bush in the Booze Allen Hamilton profiling Americans that are ignorant just waiting to snap, using a personal data base to match behavior.
The best part is laundering in the money you want in mainstream media commercial advertising, or breaking news through the cash cow money news media.
Is what is, is very close friends with Isis, or if you like Al Qaeda, a Bin Laden is and has been business partners with the Bin Laden family making transformation with new modern hooded mercenaries that need your head.
Sometimes I think they need these Bush people for Jihad to exist.
Sure to be on in the breaking news theater displaying head decapitations with the Bush plan to stop them.
All the while the right wing country western singers begging for sixty five cents a day in American legion advertisements on cable to prevent American service man from committing suicide because of post-traumatic stress.
Much of the time just after Rudy Giuliani makes his pitch for life lock and identity theft. Oh those 911 files are everywhere. America is going to have to abandon the social security system and invent a Da Vinci Code for everyone.
Was, has been, and will be dedicated to the sinister war profiteering fossil fuel world extremist looking for those seventy five virgins in the afterlife.
Now every American is told about the Clinton fatigue but so far its two to one. One Clinton presidency and two Bush trillion dollar swindles.
One Clinton to two Bushs in post-traumatic stress game leading Americans into an ancient religious warring perversion called Jihad fine-tuned with Arab oil, and the slogging oil sludge, and rail road infrastructure that is cracking up with outdated technology.
That is the latest IED Al Qaeda game, let Americans blow each other up profiteering in oil. LOL
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)The only thing they have going for them are the Koch Bros. millions, and that scares me shitless!!!!!!
Hekate
(90,793 posts)charles d
(99 posts)He was talking about Palin at the time. Jeb is a "kinder, gentler" version of the Loon from Wasilla. Don't be surprised if fools are fooled!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)He also never had to answer for the obvious war crime of torture. Hell, the spoiled brat didn't have to answer for at least one stolen presidential election.
Essentially the right wing media has excused Dubya for everything or they pretend it never happened.
Because of a carefully crafted official narrative it is entirely possible that Jeb could become the next president.
That is why looking forward was such an egregious sin.
LibGranny
(711 posts)pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)The fact is, I agree that Bush shouldnt have to answer for his brothers mistakes because he probably shouldnt be running for president.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)Last I looked we were still in Iraq and Afghanistan, one way or the other.