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tecelote

(5,122 posts)
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 06:49 AM Dec 2014

We're still stealing land from native Americans. Now, we're giving to foreign business interests!

“Since time immemorial people have gone there. That’s part of our ancestral homeland," Rambler said, referring to the overall area in question.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/03/ndaa-land-deals_n_6264362.html

This is not being done due to national interest, it is being given to British and Australian companies.

Obviously, this is only about greed. Nothing but greed.

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We're still stealing land from native Americans. Now, we're giving to foreign business interests! (Original Post) tecelote Dec 2014 OP
International FascismŽ acknowledges no borders. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #1
it's always been about greed heaven05 Dec 2014 #2
Strictly speaking, the entire SW US is somebody's "ancestral homeland." Igel Dec 2014 #3
K and R greatlaurel Dec 2014 #4
Aren't they trying to run the Keystone pipeline through Sioux land? Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2014 #5
Unbearable. Thanks for the information. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2014 #6

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
1. International FascismŽ acknowledges no borders.
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 07:34 AM
Dec 2014

Besides, where else are all those Indians going to get jobs?

Wouldn't Mussolini be proud?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
2. it's always been about greed
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 09:43 AM
Dec 2014

and hate. Does not surprise me in the least. The pile on is going to continue. This is truly, "business as usual".

Igel

(35,359 posts)
3. Strictly speaking, the entire SW US is somebody's "ancestral homeland."
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 05:06 PM
Dec 2014

If the Apaches forced out the previous inhabitants--or if a sustained drought was responsible--then there's at least one other group that could make the same claim. (It's unlikely Apaches were there 1000 years ago. It's like claiming that the Angles and Saxons are indigenous to Britain, even though they arrived over 1000 years ago.)

It's not part of the reservation system, though. It's national forest.

The aquifer is a greater concern--not whether it'll be recharged but whether it'll be contaminated. Not entirely sure that the aquifer there drains to the east to the reservation or in some other direction. It's not exactly plains. Contamination concerns depends on that and on what ore processing occurs in situ, I guess. The general area around Superior and east of it's been the site of a lot of copper mining in the past, it's one reason the area was settled even as much as it was, and of perlite mining more recently. There's already a bit of contamination past. The region's been economically depressed for a while, with Globe having the occasional pretension at times to trying to set up a Tlaquepaque-style arts colony for Valley dwellers to visit, IIRC. It's been a while since I visited my in-laws in the area; they used to live real close to Superior and now live a bit closer to Apache Junction.

Pretty area, up in them thar hills. Having visited there off and on for 20 years, though, I never heard mention of the area west of Globe being especially important to the Apaches, at least not important enough for them to have some claim over it. Their reservation is east of Globe a little ways, nearly 3000 sq mi for 15 000 members, and they're on average really poor. Don't know if most would commute the distance to Miami or if the jobs would go to folk in Miami, Globe, and Superior.

I wonder what those more local to the area than those on the reservation think? They're people, too.

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